Trailers: Saints Row: The Third: Steelport

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I think, so long as Volition can keep the strangely compelling story and oddly likable characters in SR2, then SR3 is going to be a better GTA5 than GTA5 (like how SR2 was a better GTA4 than GTA4 [NOT SAYING GTA4 was BAD]). One of the greatest things about SR2 was that, despite how goofy and stupid the game was, you actually liked and cared about the characters (despite the fact that they were a little on the one dimensional side and that they are all brazen psychopaths), and combined with the outlandish, but effective, story, you found yourself wanting to do the story missions as much as dick around in the city. It managed to blend the outlandish and goofy with something you actually cared about. It was quite well done.

Well, all of the above ALONG with a non-horribad PC version will help a lot as well (and given that the PC version is being developed in house, it should be better).
 

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Where the hell is the police during all of this? Asshole. Lookin' like that Ken doll from Toy Story 3.
 

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hipster666 said:
That game is so wrong in so many ways it almost becomes right!
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
 

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As awesome as these games are, I wish there was enough of a market for a Freespace 3 that volition would make one.
 

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I...oh my fucking god. I have never wanted a game as badly as I do right now.
This is simply mind bogglingly amazing.
 

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MacJack said:
hipster666 said:
That game is so wrong in so many ways it almost becomes right!
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
Just me then who worries about the state of moral decay in the net generation? ;)

I think for me the most worrying aspect of this style of game is the utter lack of consequence for your actions. Everything has a consequence. It's one of the basic laws of the universe from molecules and energy up to telling your girlfriend she has a fat ass. All I'm saying is it's a little TOO free with it's environment, allowing you to ***** slap the people who "worship" you and still have them giggling like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert afterwards. I'm all for fun and not necessarily ultra realism, but I think this goes too far the other way.
 

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This is definetly on my short list of games of interest.
others being the new star wars mmo from bioware, the deus ex prequel and batman: arkham city.

Just hope they have given the homies better pathing (i spend more time trying to get them unstuck from walls than actually fighting) and better aiming (they keep shooting me with a rocket launcher), also improved gang and car customization.
 

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hipster666 said:
MacJack said:
hipster666 said:
That game is so wrong in so many ways it almost becomes right!
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
Just me then who worries about the state of moral decay in the net generation? ;)

I think for me the most worrying aspect of this style of game is the utter lack of consequence for your actions. Everything has a consequence. It's one of the basic laws of the universe from molecules and energy up to telling your girlfriend she has a fat ass. All I'm saying is it's a little TOO free with it's environment, allowing you to ***** slap the people who "worship" you and still have them giggling like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert afterwards. I'm all for fun and not necessarily ultra realism, but I think this goes too far the other way.
The flaw in your logic is assuming people won't realize that their actions in the game are the same as their actions outside the game. Most people have the general wherewithal to realize that a game is just a game, and what they do in the game cannot be translated into a real-life situation without consequence. That's part of the problem people are having nowadays, thinking that gamers are violent sociopaths just because they enjoy a violent sandbox game.
 

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Frylock72 said:
hipster666 said:
MacJack said:
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
Just me then who worries about the state of moral decay in the net generation? ;)

I think for me the most worrying aspect of this style of game is the utter lack of consequence for your actions. Everything has a consequence. It's one of the basic laws of the universe from molecules and energy up to telling your girlfriend she has a fat ass. All I'm saying is it's a little TOO free with it's environment, allowing you to ***** slap the people who "worship" you and still have them giggling like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert afterwards. I'm all for fun and not necessarily ultra realism, but I think this goes too far the other way.
The flaw in your logic is assuming people won't realize that their actions in the game are the same as their actions outside the game. Most people have the general wherewithal to realize that a game is just a game, and what they do in the game cannot be translated into a real-life situation without consequence. That's part of the problem people are having nowadays, thinking that gamers are violent sociopaths just because they enjoy a violent sandbox game.
Hmm, the assumptions here are your own, I never mentioned anything about gamers being violent sociopaths. In fact I was pointing more towards the general trend of all of society towards desentisation and that stems from a lot more than just video games. I don't think any sane person would go out into the world and run a girl over in a car to make an impression on her (other than one using the bumper), but the influences are definitely there and, in general, not good.

To be more specific if you look at access to pornography, it's never been easier for any generation to access material on sex. Does this bring a new enlightened generation of kids who know all about sex? No. It brings about a generation with anxieties over their bodies and sexual confidence before they've even started experimenting. Fake boobs are now considered more attractive among the young than real ones and personal grooming has reached OCD proportions. All this has been laid at the door of online porn where these things are normal. There is a strong argument for parental intervention and education but this would involve my generation and my parent's generation getting over their own sexual hangups and talking freely and possibly graphically about the ins and outs of sex, which I don't see changing overnight.

The argument is worth of an Extra Credits episode given it's complexity, but we have an information saturation situation for the first time in human history. We can bombard society with any image we like and, not unsurprisingly, humans tend towards sex and violence. All I'm saying is that I wish the games weren't so consequence free. Have the police chase you, rack up crime points, whatever you fancy, just I'd rather it not put you in a power tool shed, close the door and hope nothing bad happens. It's naive to think advocating extreme violence doesn't have some impact on the conscience and I'm not talking about mass murder, but just a more callous attitude, inflated ego, higher aggression. Only little things in a day but they can have larger consequences when multiplied by millions.

Check out the Stanford experiment for an extreme example of this kind of sandbox mentality:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
 

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hipster666 said:
MacJack said:
hipster666 said:
That game is so wrong in so many ways it almost becomes right!
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
Just me then who worries about the state of moral decay in the net generation? ;)

I think for me the most worrying aspect of this style of game is the utter lack of consequence for your actions. Everything has a consequence. It's one of the basic laws of the universe from molecules and energy up to telling your girlfriend she has a fat ass. All I'm saying is it's a little TOO free with it's environment, allowing you to ***** slap the people who "worship" you and still have them giggling like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert afterwards. I'm all for fun and not necessarily ultra realism, but I think this goes too far the other way.
Yeah, its overpowered :p airstrike them and they wont do anything to stop you. There are cops in the game but its pretty much "blow crap up and run" if you compare it with mercenaries 2 that actually had consequences, well i didnt enjoy it, i was trying to attack a base and got killed in seconds thanks to the super damage i took and the tanks firing rockets at me all the time.
 

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Oh man this looks so good. I wasn't very excited about it, but after this trailer I just can't wait!
 

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hipster666 said:
Frylock72 said:
hipster666 said:
MacJack said:
Depends how you see it, i like this game because its not trying to be reallistic, unlike that other game that is like it, you know which the one with borring missions and girfriend dates everywhere. Saints row is just trying to be funny, like Yantzee said, if you put a gamer to a sandbox and tell him to do something, you know he will do the opposite just for fun. :)
Just me then who worries about the state of moral decay in the net generation? ;)

I think for me the most worrying aspect of this style of game is the utter lack of consequence for your actions. Everything has a consequence. It's one of the basic laws of the universe from molecules and energy up to telling your girlfriend she has a fat ass. All I'm saying is it's a little TOO free with it's environment, allowing you to ***** slap the people who "worship" you and still have them giggling like a 12 year old at a Justin Bieber concert afterwards. I'm all for fun and not necessarily ultra realism, but I think this goes too far the other way.
The flaw in your logic is assuming people won't realize that their actions in the game are the same as their actions outside the game. Most people have the general wherewithal to realize that a game is just a game, and what they do in the game cannot be translated into a real-life situation without consequence. That's part of the problem people are having nowadays, thinking that gamers are violent sociopaths just because they enjoy a violent sandbox game.
Hmm, the assumptions here are your own, I never mentioned anything about gamers being violent sociopaths. In fact I was pointing more towards the general trend of all of society towards desentisation and that stems from a lot more than just video games. I don't think any sane person would go out into the world and run a girl over in a car to make an impression on her (other than one using the bumper), but the influences are definitely there and, in general, not good.

To be more specific if you look at access to pornography, it's never been easier for any generation to access material on sex. Does this bring a new enlightened generation of kids who know all about sex? No. It brings about a generation with anxieties over their bodies and sexual confidence before they've even started experimenting. Fake boobs are now considered more attractive among the young than real ones and personal grooming has reached OCD proportions. All this has been laid at the door of online porn where these things are normal. There is a strong argument for parental intervention and education but this would involve my generation and my parent's generation getting over their own sexual hangups and talking freely and possibly graphically about the ins and outs of sex, which I don't see changing overnight.

The argument is worth of an Extra Credits episode given it's complexity, but we have an information saturation situation for the first time in human history. We can bombard society with any image we like and, not unsurprisingly, humans tend towards sex and violence. All I'm saying is that I wish the games weren't so consequence free. Have the police chase you, rack up crime points, whatever you fancy, just I'd rather it not put you in a power tool shed, close the door and hope nothing bad happens. It's naive to think advocating extreme violence doesn't have some impact on the conscience and I'm not talking about mass murder, but just a more callous attitude, inflated ego, higher aggression. Only little things in a day but they can have larger consequences when multiplied by millions.

Check out the Stanford experiment for an extreme example of this kind of sandbox mentality:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
I have to say, well put. It's good to see someone be a little more critical of the effect that video games have on us without being a FOX scaremongerer who exaggerates its effects.

And I think your pornography example was a good one, it hasn't turned us all into rapists but it HAS altered our perceptions somewhat, and that should be addressed.

Just nice to see someone looking at this who isn't too anti-games to keep perspective or too pro-games to deny any influence.
 

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getting sick of having to search for the videos just to comment (without using Facebook)...sigh
ANYwayy

this gameplay looks incredible! I realized I needed to finish Saints Row 2 so I've been playing through it, and the visuals here look so much better. nice to see the game is still as ridiculous as ever, which is what makes it so awesome :]