TV shows with average of 13 episodes a season

rvbnut

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What is going on?

Why are TV shows (predominately action shows) nowadays only having 13 episodes?

Can't anyone shed some light on this?
 

Aurgelmir

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rvbnut said:
What is going on?

Why are TV shows (predominately action shows) nowadays only having 13 episodes?

Can't anyone shed some light on this?
Are you referring to new this season shows, or shows in general?

It's cheaper to make 13 episodes than 24. It's less of a risk.

Some times they do 13 episodes because the show is put on half season, but then generally it seems the next season (if there is one) gain more episodes.

Then you have shows like Game of thrones which is just a huge production that cost a lot of money and time to make. (Wish Game of Thrones got more episodes per season though, felt a bit rushed in the end)
 

megapenguinx

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Shows with hour long episodes (Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Doctor Who) generally have shorter seasons because it takes much longer to make episodes than shows that are only half an hour.
 

ramboondiea

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if your talking about British programs 13 is a pretty standard series length, but there is a lot of longer episodes in action series lately so they probably shorten the series as appropriate
 

WolfThomas

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It's always been common in the more upmarket cable channels like HBO, Showtime and AMC.
 

J_Monsterface

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theyre just fuckin with you, if you ever actually stopped to count them by hand youd see that most are actually an even ten, one for each month except Chanukah and labor day weekend

they just trick you with crafty numbering and the use of algorithms

also some shows film a few episodes twice with different clothing and soundtracks and repeat them in a hypnotic shuffle mode until you think youve seen thirteen episodes

there are actually only about seven episodes of sienfeld, most of them are just the "man hands" episode played at different speeds and with the phrase "man hands" replaced with a different word, like "puffy shirt" or "cigar store indian" (although contrary to popular belief, there was no character named elaine, that was just a communal fever dream caused by the drinking of fluorinated water)
 

Zeema

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Dollhouse [A VERY GOOD SHOW] had 13 eps for its first season

then the second season came out......what a steaming pile of shit that second season was
 

Lerasai

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J_Monsterface said:
theyre just fuckin with you, if you ever actually stopped to count them by hand youd see that most are actually an even ten, one for each month except Chanukah and labor day weekend

they just trick you with crafty numbering and the use of algorithms

also some shows film a few episodes twice with different clothing and soundtracks and repeat them in a hypnotic shuffle mode until you think youve seen thirteen episodes

there are actually only about seven episodes of sienfeld, most of them are just the "man hands" episode played at different speeds and with the phrase "man hands" replaced with a different word, like "puffy shirt" or "cigar store indian" (although contrary to popular belief, there was no character named elaine, that was just a communal fever dream caused by the drinking of fluorinated water)
Oh god, it all makes sense now.
 

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Usually this is due to production cost, as stated earlier.

Also, quite a few shows are switching to the 40 minute length. It gives writers wider berth for more complicated stories (Shows like Boston Legal, Breaking Bad, and Burn Notice are impossible without such time slots), offers more in show commercial time then 18-22 minute shows (Because TV Execs know you aren't watching in between show commercials), and increases the odds people will stick on the channel for longer periods of time (because netting a crowd for an hour, guaranteed, because they like a show, is better then betting said crowd will like a 20 minute show and then stick around for filler just because).

Also, as said before, its kind of a testing method. Breaking Bad and Castle, for example, had dreadfully short first seasons. But it let execs test things they normally wouldn't bet on (Like having Malcom's dad sell meth, and see if people would swallow it [And oh God, did I], or letting Nathan Fillion have another shot at TV stardom [hell yes.]).
 

LookingGlass

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13 episodes beats the hell out of the six episode seasons seen by the likes of UK series The Office, The Inbetweeners, and The IT Crowd.

What the hell are they thinking over there?