Twilight Author Bored With Vampires

[Lono Shrugged]

Who the hell gets sick of printing money?

 

[Raesvelg]

So what's next? Emo zombies? Sparkling ninjas?

Funny you should mention this... Seeing as how there is a rather emo zombie book coming out soon...

 

[DeleteMe1112311]

How can she be bored with vampires? She's never written them. She only writes about angsty teenagers and sparkly men.

 

[DarkPanda XIII]

*points to Stephanie Meyers* HA HA!!

Sadly, I was getting a little sick of the series myself, and the part that was most horrifying for me was the fact that the books are done, and the movies are being set out, and somehow still people are arguing over Edward and Jacob.

I........don't........care.....

I never read the series, I will not read the series, and I find it ironic that I know what happens at the end, mostly due to a female friend that did read it and shouted about it during lunch.

 

[KingKamor]

That's odd considering she's never actually written about vampires.

QFT

Thank God. Now she'll start writing about normal teens stalking each other or something.

 

[ShoopDaToaster]

You probably don't hate Twilight as much as you think.

 

[I am Jack's profile]

Okay... let's not get ahead of ourselves.

A while back i tried to make it through the first book. everybody had told me it was a complete trashing of the vampire mythos (and it tottaly was). I got about 60 pages into that gorram thing and i could already feel my brain rotting

first off.

Seduction has ALWAYS been a part of Vampire lore. this is why vampires are so closly tied to sex .Most of the darker vampire stuff involves a vampire charming a girl taking her home and getting busy before sucking her blood and killing(or turing her)

So vampires being charming, ladys men was around way before Myers vommited all over it

and

reworking mythos is what keeps It so intresting. Vampires have been reworked in alot of ways(probably more then any other Mythological crature)

Let's Say you are putting a vampire in the book you are writting

is your vampire undead, or still alive. does he turn to into one bat, or alot of bats, or no bats at all. does he slowly die slowly in the sun, or does he burn up instantly. hell some even just simply become weaker in the son.

Why do they suck blood. do they have some sort of anemic condition where they lack iron, or are they actually just sucking the "life force"

I could go on and on

want me to run through the checklist of things that may or may not kill/harm your vampire(if anything).

I guess my point is we can't hate on her for trying to change vampires. all though myers was a dead shitty end. could you imagine how bored we would all be of vampires if they were still like dracula.

Now onto what we can hate. her boring ploting, her boring, flat, static characters. Her terrible detailing... Etc. I hate these books just as much as any of you. this book especially has made other lonely female authors start rushing out more of the same. I really wish they were not in exsitence

She then kills all that by making them sparkle, vampires don't need to be hurt by the sun but there is one key aspect of the mythos in all iterations they are creatures of the night and they detest the sun (especially aparent if they aren't vulnerable to it). Vampire mythos may be wide and varied, but this doesn't even come close. Never mind her attempting and failing miserably to justify the sparkles with science, which is my major bugbear with the series. I'm not going to go into detail but by trying (and failing) to apply science to one aspect of a supernatural creature you have to apply it to the rest of the aspects which becomes even more screwy. btw didn't intend to rant just kinda happened

I agree with everything you said really. Like i said i think her reworking was a "dead shitty end"

Mythos changes alot but. there is only so many changes you can make to a fish before it is no longer a fish

overall vampires have two strong characteristics that is the core.

A overwhelming urge for blood
and detest for the sun(for whatever reason)

and thank you for bringing up the whole science thing. I always loved when science is thrown into mythos. when people started doing this, the most notable change to vampire lore, specificly was instead of the vampire sucking your blood to give you the condition you had to drink it's blood. WHich if you go science route, Makes a hell of alot more sence. another notable change was that two things, holy water and crosses are now all but useless in vampire lore. even the more magic based stuff has scraped this because at then end of the day that particular part. MAKES NO SENCE.

less sence then sucking blood for a "life force"

(but like you said it's an all in or go home thing. If you use science once. use it everywhere. another thing myers failed at)

and that leads back to my point. some time stuff gets scraped because it makes no sence, and a cross, and holy water) no longer makes sence in this far less catholic(percentage wise)and far more science based westren culture. and some stuff gets added because it makes sence.A vampire lacking iron, makes tons of sence. Pale skin, desire for blood ect ect.

people are at myers throat because she "changed vampires". thats a bit to brod. yes hate her for turning vampires into "mopey solor powerd disco balls" but dont hate her for attempting to change because thats how mythos stays intresting

 

[I am Jack's profile]

Who the hell gets sick of printing money?

Dude...

dude...

Spot on...

You should get a badge for pointing that out. that be like tim hortans, or starbucks getting sick of coffee

 

[Aesir23]

Write your own vampire novel. Get famous. How about that? lol

Working on that actually. Only of the adventure variety rather than sappy romance.

You probably don't hate Twilight as much as you think.

 

[Lissa-QUON]

I think the most amusing thing about this whole thread is the vehement and repetitive insistence that she never wrote about vampires.

The only true defining characteristics of vampires is their insatiable need for blood and the whole "living dead" thing, though that is up in the air in some takes.

The concept of a vampire has been around for hundreds of years, but it wasn't until the film Nosferatu (1920's) that vampires were even killed by the sun. Dracula, the Ur Example of a vampire, was only mildly inconvenienced by the sun. He was also as ugly as sin and had the palms and backs of his hands reversed. He can shapeshift into a wolf, a bat, a cloud of mist...

And the whole "Cannot be seen in mirrors" thing? That was added by the author of Dracula. The original vampyre mythos was of a terrifying, nigh-unstoppable creature that lusted after your blood. Everything else was left up to the storyteller's head.

Concepts change. People try a different take on something. It doesn't always work and it doesn't always catch on (I guarantee the sparkles won't) but the purists should get over themselves and realise that, unfortunately, the sparklers were, in fact, vampires. They were unstoppable by humans. They were undead. They lusted for blood.

They were vampires. Whether you thought it was a good take on the vampire mythos or not is up to you, but the fact remains that they were as much vampires as any other case, given they had only three criteria to fill.

However... compelling and engaging characters, they were not.

Uhm, I don't recall Dracula having the palms of his hands reversed. He had hairy palms, which you can make what you will out of that one.

I think the walking in the sunlight bit was done by Stoker. Originally I don't think the original lore addressed what happened to a vampire in the sunlight. Nosferatu did originate the dying in the sun thing. But the sun did take away Dracula's powers and in the old vampire stories you never saw them in the day, they always moved at night.

 

[psychowatcher]

While part of me is happy that she's done raping the poor vampire genre, I fear for what else she can ruin. I fear for the poor mythological creatures she will desecrate. Hell, she already showed she doesn't care about what she writes so ong as it makes her money...

I never though I could hate someone so much...

 

[Vitor Goncalves]

You gotta love how the escapists love hate Twilight. I am still wondering how religiously you know and follow all that is related to it if you ate it so much.

 

[William Dickbringer]

I swear to god, if she even thinks about touching Ninjas or zombies I will set her house on fire.

Twice.

she can't touch ninjas they were real and most girls (that read and liked) hate them zombies uhhhhhhh can't see how it's possibles imagine some girl making out with a corpse not exactly something you want to think about

 

[Acting like a FOOL]

HEADS-UP DRAGONS, ALOT OF REALLY BAD LITERATURE IS COMING YOUR WAY!

 

[Acting like a FOOL]

I swear to god, if she even thinks about touching Ninjas or zombies I will set her house on fire.

Twice.

she can't touch ninjas they were real and most girls (that read and liked) hate them zombies uhhhhhhh can't see how it's possibles imagine some girl making out with a corpse not exactly something you want to think about

vampires ARE corpses...just a lot more pansy. they nibble necks like grapes, sip blood like wine.
zombies are manly! all they do is grunt and growl while they eat huge slabs of steak they hunt down with their bare hands.
lol.

 

[Niccolo]

Uhm, I don't recall Dracula having the palms of his hands reversed. He had hairy palms, which you can make what you will out of that one.

I think the walking in the sunlight bit was done by Stoker. Originally I don't think the original lore addressed what happened to a vampire in the sunlight. Nosferatu did originate the dying in the sun thing. But the sun did take away Dracula's powers and in the old vampire stories you never saw them in the day, they always moved at night.

I thought I remembered reading something about his palms being reversed... Eh, I knew there was something bizarre about them.

But yes, he was inconvenienced by the sun - but not killed by it. Which was what my point really was. Stories change, as do the character types.

 

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, she's bored of vampires as a metaphor for *SHOCK* premarital sex and the struggle for abstinence. I'm bored of Robert Pattinson's bland, paedophiliac face on billboards.

Also, I think that Taylor Lautner looks like an ethnically diverse version of the jock in the video for "Soccer Practice" by Gay Pimp. Bonus points for the first Escapist to make that mash-up...

Maybe for the sake of variety Meyer can promote her cultish Mormon beliefs with a different theme. Right now there's probably a focus group running on which mythical creatures she could use to promote sobriety, bigamy and unquestioning faith in the face of reality.

 

[Marble Dragon]

I'm sorry, but she is the lousiest excuse for an author I've ever seen. (At least, for an unpublished one.)

"Writing it feels like homework." My heart bleeds with sympathy. A single tear rolls down my cheek. Reality check: Writing feels like homework for nearly every writer. Hell, a lot of writers sit down and bang their heads against the desk for a while before they can actually write. And then, when they go through all of that pain and horror, waking up in the middle of the night because they dreamed so vividly about their characters, and produce a book inked with their sweat and blood...it makes no money. If you've started finding writing hard after four shit books which made loads of dosh, consider yourself lucky.

HEADS-UP DRAGONS, ALOT OF REALLY BAD LITERATURE IS COMING YOUR WAY!

Oh, there are some pretty bad books about dragons already. They're just less popular than Twilight.

 

[William Dickbringer]

I swear to god, if she even thinks about touching Ninjas or zombies I will set her house on fire.

Twice.

she can't touch ninjas they were real and most girls (that read and liked) hate them zombies uhhhhhhh can't see how it's possibles imagine some girl making out with a corpse not exactly something you want to think about

vampires ARE corpses...just a lot more pansy. they nibble necks like grapes, sip blood like wine.
zombies are manly! all they do is grunt and growl while they eat huge slabs of steak they hunt down with their bare hands.
lol.

well I can imagine the dialogue now
Mary Sue: I love zombie
Zombie: BBBBBBRRRRAAAAAIIIIINNNNNSSSSS

 

[dashiz94]

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