Twilight Author Bored With Vampires

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Ok, so since she has never written about vampires, I'm actually going to give her another chance. The fact that she is getting bored with her source mythos tells me that there is some spark of an artist in there that can tell when it's time to move on from a project, even a popular one, which is better than some can say.

But a friend of mine read the Twilight books, and 'accidentally' skipped one (not sure which). The fact that it made not a whit of difference in her understanding of the story does not speak well to your characterization, Ms Myers.

I'm willing to give you another chance, but get it right this time.
 

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WitherVoice said:
She won't get bored with writing involving fiction any time soon.
I won't get bored with skydiving anytime soon.

See what I did there? Or maybe that was your point. In which case, I agree.

Man, how bad does a series have to be when the AUTHOR gets sick of it?
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
WitherVoice said:
She won't get bored with writing involving fiction any time soon.
I won't get bored with skydiving anytime soon.

See what I did there? Or maybe that was your point. In which case, I agree.

Man, how bad does a series have to be when the AUTHOR gets sick of it?
The gist was indeed about how something she does so rarely will likely not bore her soon...
 

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Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
She never used vampires in the first place though.
If it drinks blood, it's a vampire. That's the only requirement.
They drank blood? I thought the only liquid the male "vampires" consumed was...

Wait, I better not go there.
 

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Double A said:
Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
She never used vampires in the first place though.
If it drinks blood, it's a vampire. That's the only requirement.
They drank blood? I thought the only liquid the male "vampires" consumed was...

Wait, I better not go there.
It pisses me off to see random wankers tear at Twilight series for all the wrong reasons.

Making "but they're not real vampires 111" your main argument in this case is like attacking a child molester for having bad fashion sense. The problem with what's her name's books is not her interpretation of a vampire - there is no established vampire stereotype every writer should follow. Vampires are fictional creatures that existed in many cultures and were pretty damn different from each other - aside from usually being undead or otherwise supernatural and drinking blood. Dracula is as much of a "fake" vampire as Twilight vampires are. When it comes to fantasy, who the fuck are you to tell the writer what he or she should write? The elves from Tolkien's books and all the generic LOTRO rip-off that followed after are no less elves then the elves from the Discworld series by Terry Pratchett. You can interpret any fictional creature or race any way you want as long as the main defining feature is present. So you don't have giant dwarfs, or some shit like that.

With this, probably 100th rant on the subject, out of the way, I present to you the main problem, the target you SHOULD be attacking. Stephanie Meyer's SHITTY writing. It's not the sparkles fault. The concept behind the Twilight books could be done good, even in it's own genre. But it wasn't, because - if you've read any of these dreaded books, you'd know - Stephanie Meyer is NOT a very good writer. Maybe she has other books. Maybe those are better. But Twilight's main problem is how downright badly it's written, how badly the characters are developed, and so on.
 

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Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
She never used vampires in the first place though.
If it drinks blood, it's a vampire. That's the only requirement.
They drank blood? I thought the only liquid the male "vampires" consumed was...

Wait, I better not go there.
It pisses me off to see random wankers tear at Twilight series for all the wrong reasons.

Making "but they're not real vampires 111" your main argument in this case is like attacking a child molester for having bad fashion sense. The problem with what's her name's books is not her interpretation of a vampire - there is no established vampire stereotype every writer should follow. Vampires are fictional creatures that existed in many cultures and were pretty damn different from each other - aside from usually being undead or otherwise supernatural and drinking blood. Dracula is as much of a "fake" vampire as Twilight vampires are. When it comes to fantasy, who the fuck are you to tell the writer what he or she should write? The elves from Tolkien's books and all the generic LOTRO rip-off that followed after are no less elves then the elves from the Discworld series by Terry Pratchett. You can interpret any fictional creature or race any way you want as long as the main defining feature is present. So you don't have giant dwarfs, or some shit like that.

With this, probably 100th rant on the subject, out of the way, I present to you the main problem, the target you SHOULD be attacking. Stephanie Meyer's SHITTY writing. It's not the sparkles fault. The concept behind the Twilight books could be done good, even in it's own genre. But it wasn't, because - if you've read any of these dreaded books, you'd know - Stephanie Meyer is NOT a very good writer. Maybe she has other books. Maybe those are better. But Twilight's main problem is how downright badly it's written, how badly the characters are developed, and so on.
AGREED 100%. Vampires are fictional so any altering of the lore is acceptable. Basically, it's not the mere fact that she changed what vampires are/do; it's that she changed what vampires are/do into something boring and really lame because she can't write.

Also, the word 'chagrin.' Someone tell her to stop that.
 

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Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
She never used vampires in the first place though.
If it drinks blood, it's a vampire. That's the only requirement.
They drank blood? I thought the only liquid the male "vampires" consumed was...

Wait, I better not go there.
It pisses me off to see random wankers tear at Twilight series for all the wrong reasons.

Making "but they're not real vampires 111" your main argument in this case is like attacking a child molester for having bad fashion sense. The problem with what's her name's books is not her interpretation of a vampire - there is no established vampire stereotype every writer should follow. Vampires are fictional creatures that existed in many cultures and were pretty damn different from each other - aside from usually being undead or otherwise supernatural and drinking blood. Dracula is as much of a "fake" vampire as Twilight vampires are. When it comes to fantasy, who the fuck are you to tell the writer what he or she should write? The elves from Tolkien's books and all the generic LOTRO rip-off that followed after are no less elves then the elves from the Discworld series by Terry Pratchett. You can interpret any fictional creature or race any way you want as long as the main defining feature is present. So you don't have giant dwarfs, or some shit like that.

With this, probably 100th rant on the subject, out of the way, I present to you the main problem, the target you SHOULD be attacking. Stephanie Meyer's SHITTY writing. It's not the sparkles fault. The concept behind the Twilight books could be done good, even in it's own genre. But it wasn't, because - if you've read any of these dreaded books, you'd know - Stephanie Meyer is NOT a very good writer. Maybe she has other books. Maybe those are better. But Twilight's main problem is how downright badly it's written, how badly the characters are developed, and so on.
Look, there is a pretty big distinction between "vampires" and "gay, emo, sparkly people, who sometimes drink blood." However, I do get the point you're trying to make. But I didn't say her books weren't shitacular, I said her portrayal of vampires does them no honor.
 

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Double A said:
Look, there is a pretty big distinction between "vampires" and "gay, emo, sparkly people, who sometimes drink blood." However, I do get the point you're trying to make. But I didn't say her books weren't shitacular, I said her portrayal of vampires does them no honor.
Thanks for clarifying. I shall get off this boat at once.

Pip pip, cherio!
 

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Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
Look, there is a pretty big distinction between "vampires" and "gay, emo, sparkly people, who sometimes drink blood." However, I do get the point you're trying to make. But I didn't say her books weren't shitacular, I said her portrayal of vampires does them no honor.
Thanks for clarifying. I shall get off this boat at once.

Pip pip, cherio!
Sorry, I'm just pissed at the moment.
 

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Double A said:
Billion Backs said:
Double A said:
Look, there is a pretty big distinction between "vampires" and "gay, emo, sparkly people, who sometimes drink blood." However, I do get the point you're trying to make. But I didn't say her books weren't shitacular, I said her portrayal of vampires does them no honor.
Thanks for clarifying. I shall get off this boat at once.

Pip pip, cherio!
Sorry, I'm just pissed at the moment.
Oh no, I'm pissed too. For different reasons =p

People like you, no offense, are the people that make me want to move away from the Twilight hate-dom. I'm all for diversity in fantasy creatures and for various creative alterations done by the authors - re-reading Dracula or Lord of The Rings whenever you touch any fantasy or vaguely vampire-related book is the last thing I want to do... Authors should be creative, they should not let some idiotic pre-made archetypes stick so hard.

Now simply offensively bad writing, it's a good reason to hate Twilight for. It's fanbase, too. Not because they like soppy romance novels - it's simply not most guys' thing. But because they're declaring such shitty work of fiction as one of the best books ever. Probably due to the lack of experience when it comes to real literature, but still. Urgh. Ignorance.

Not meaning to offend, and stuff.
 

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I have seen enough. I am so tired of trained monkeys spitting the same garbage. "Oh! Meyer hasn't written about vampires!" "She fucked over werewolves!" "Don't mess with my zombies!" Give it a rest. Honestly, I don't like Twilight but I'll tell you something. Irrational hatred is real annoying. It's like everyone just says the same stuff to fit in. What everyone needs to do is shut up and read this quote: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to the death to say it."-Voltaire. Yes. Meyer's vampires are not the vampires we know. They survive in the sunlight, and they don't need human blood. However, it's her stuff. They are her vampires. Do I think they are stupid? Yes. but that's me. Also, all of you say that she can't write for crap like you guys are better. Where are your works? If she is so garbage, write a book better than hers. If it's not hard, get a publisher to get your book out. I'd like to see that happening.