U.K. Parliament "Debates" Modern Warfare 2

Chubbfish

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I just wikipedia'd him and he went to the same school i go to. balls...

OT: mw2 will not be banned though, i think most MP's do live in the real world and won't ban a game like this.
 
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Jdopus said:
Oh please, The Tories are nowhere near akin to Republicans. I'm not a huge Torie fan but that's pretty bloody insulting to them ;)
Well, the BNP don't go around in hoods either, but for a very reduced image, I think it works well enough.
 

Macgyvercas

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Oh, here we fucking go again. Another country trying to create a society when violence of any kind is condemned while hiding under the banner of "protecting the children". Seriously, first Australia, the Venezula, now the UK?? WTF!!
 

Catchy Slogan

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Neonbob said:
Oh...my...lord.
There is a politician who actually supports games?!
THANK YOU JESUS!
I love that man so much.
Can we Americans clone him and have a copy? You know, just to know what it feels like for a while?
No! He's ours, back off! We're keeping him along with the MP who said that speed cameras were blatant taxes to the motorist. If these people keep cropping up, we may have a parliment that isn't full of idiots who are out of touch with the real world.
 

Macgyvercas

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Macgyvercas said:
Oh, here we fucking go again. Another country trying to create a society when violence of any kind is condemned while hiding under the banner of "protecting the children". Seriously, first Australia, the Venezula, now the UK?? WTF!!
EDIT: I like this Tom Watson fellow.

EDIT2: Sorry for the double post, I accidentally hit quote instead of edit without checking.
 

Neonbob

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Catchy Slogan said:
Neonbob said:
Oh...my...lord.
There is a politician who actually supports games?!
THANK YOU JESUS!
I love that man so much.
Can we Americans clone him and have a copy? You know, just to know what it feels like for a while?
No! He's ours, back off! We're keeping him along with the MP who said that speed cameras were blatant taxes to the motorist. If these people keep cropping up, we may have a parliment that isn't full of idiots who are out of touch with the real world.
I just want a clone!
I'll start using your spelling for a day!
Can we make a deal here?
 

StarStruckStrumpets

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I can see the facebook groups supporting him already...
Tom Watson, you are epic.
He simply stated the obvious. I'm so glad there is at least an ounce of logic in that building.
 

Undercover

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"It's not about censorship, it's about protecting our children."

***COUGH COUGH CHOKE GAG COUGH CHOKE***

Are you fucking KIDDING me?!? Did this idiot REALLY say quite possibly the oldest known excuse for censorship in the history of mankind?!?

This kind of conservative "I don't like this so nobody else should be able to enjoy it either" thinking has been going on forever, and its always the same flimsy excuse "We want to protect the children" from what? From realistic depictions of violence in a goddamn VIDEO GAME? Here's a thought, label the fucking thing 18+ and be done with it! But NooOoOoOo, that isn't enough for Mr. Vaz, even though it would probably be the most effective measure. After that its up to retailers and parents (You know, the people that are actually responsible for their children) to make sure younger kids don't play the game. Personally I think the whole argument is completely baseless bullshit, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlSIqJpXI5A] but what the hell do I know.

Well Mr. Vas, if you want to protect the little kiddies from violent images so much, you'd better start legistlation to put warnings on every single news broadcast, censor every television show, cartoon and movie that has even a hint of violence, and you'd better start cutting pages out of comic books too, they show lots of violence. YOU CANNOT PROTECT CHILDREN FROM VIOLENT IMAGES AND THERE IS NO, I REPEAT NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AT ALL WHATSOEVER THAT EXPOSURE TO VIOLENT IMAGES CONRTIBUTES TO VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR! Its all just conjecture, speculation and in most cases flat out lies from a bunch of self-righteous assholes who think they know whats good for us better than we do.

I'm not sure what Mr. Vaz's agenda is, but I doubt it has anything to do with protecting children. Nanny state indeed.
 

johnman

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If no under 18's bought this game then IW will see this as a failure, the hype for this among school today was massive.
 

Eric the Orange

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"It's not about censorship, it's about protecting our children."

uh....what? That doesn't make any sense. If you're attempting to change the game or prevent it's release then it is censorship. weather your doing it for the children or whatever other reason doesn't matter, it's still censorship.
 

Sulu

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We should enforce censorship on people like Mr Vaz. They have to live in a tiny padded room to save them from the horrors of the world!
 

JazzCP

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If the UK bans this game, or change it in any way, I will declare that the Nanny State has officially landed and I will be moving at the first opportunity.

Eric the Orange said:
"It's not about censorship, it's about protecting our children."

uh....what? That doesn't make any sense. If you're attempting to change the game or prevent it's release then it is censorship. weather your doing it for the children or whatever other reason doesn't matter, it's still censorship.
Plus, an easy way to protect your 12 year old child is not to buy them an 18 rated game in the first place. See? We shouldn't be punishing the kids for playing the game, or the developers for making the game. We should be punishing the parents for being idiots.

Also, go Tom!
 

Fox242

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This Kieth Vaz sounds sounds like a prick. Thank goodness there's people like Tom Watson standing up for videogamers.
 

Xvito

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I don't get what the fuzz is about...

We've been killing civvies in gaming since Dungeons & Dragons for Christ's sake.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
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BNP: Want to bring "THE EMPIRE" back, but are blatant about it. Akin to the KKK.
UK Independence Party : Hate all Johnny Foreigners.
The differences between these two are suble. They can be summed up more clearly as:

BNP: "We Hate Brown People (oh, and Europe)"
UKIP: "We Hate Europe (oh, and brown people)"

The sooner we collect them all together and fire them into the middle of the north sea, the better.
 

Sulu

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GloatingSwine said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
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BNP: Want to bring "THE EMPIRE" back, but are blatant about it. Akin to the KKK.
UK Independence Party : Hate all Johnny Foreigners.
The differences between these two are suble. They can be summed up more clearly as:

BNP: "We Hate Brown People (oh, and Europe)"
UKIP: "We Hate Europe (oh, and brown people)"

The sooner we collect them all together and fire them into the middle of the north sea, the better.
What are ya on about? UKIP aren't racist or anti brown people they just want out of Europe. Stop lumping them with the BNP.
 

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Malygris said:
Tom Watson, meanwhile, another Member from Vaz's own Labour Party, took the opportunity to express his support for the videogame industry and criticized Vaz for his comments.
I'm jealous that MPs from the same caucus can openly disagree with each other in the UK Parliament. In Canada, party discipline is ridiculously tight, such that party leaders have been known to remove sitting MPs from the caucus without consulting the members of the local riding association. A PM with a majority government is basically a dictator in Canada. (sigh)