U.S. Congress Shelves SOPA

[Rhys95]

Viva l'internet revolution!

Honestly living in Britain SOPA wouldn't affect me as much as it would Americans but I've been following the bills progress and hoping it dosen't pass. Now go deal with PIPA would you kindly?

 

[ZeroMachine]

And in the spirit of this win, I will post Copyrighted material.
Play it again Bison, Play it again...

I realize you already posted it, but still...


Now that we got that out of the way...

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

Please, kindly explain exactly what you mean.

EDIT: Fuck it, don't even bother. I read your other posts. I'm happy enough about this to pull out hipster logic and say "you just don't get it, man."

Or "U MAD BRO?"

That works too.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

...
Y'know what, i won't even bother.

OP: YESSSS!!!
This is good news.
Good news indeed.

 

[Flight]

It's not over yet; PIPA is still up for a vote soon, and chances are good that SOPA's only being shelved until after the elections, when people will theoretically have their guards down. I hate to be such a pessimistic downer, but it's not going to truly be done with until both bills are properly dead and those who co-sponsored it are voted out of office. I'll breathe a sigh of relief for now, but after that, I'll go back to holding my breath.

 

[ZeroMachine]

It's not over yet; PIPA is still up for a vote soon, and chances are good that SOPA's only being shelved until after the elections, when people will theoretically have their guards down. I hate to be such a pessimistic downer, but it's not going to truly be done with until both bills are properly dead and those who co-sponsored it are voted out of office. I'll breathe a sigh of relief for now, but after that, I'll go back to holding my breath.

Even a small victory is a victory. It's a step in the right direction, and for now, it's a big enough one to celebrate.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

 

[Rhys95]

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

You may regret saying that on the internet....where all the Anti-Sopa types are....

 

[Flight]

Even a small victory is a victory. It's a step in the right direction, and for now, it's a big enough one to celebrate.

You make quite a good point. Unfortunately, after what happened with the NDAA, I'm still nervous.

 

[ZeroMachine]

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

Listen, Dr. Phil, I honestly believe the guy doesn't understand the issue, so I think we should just leave it alone and enjoy the victory. Just go on fucking that Awesomeface.

 

[Rad Party God]

Holy shit!... is it possible?... we... we won!??

 

[ZeroMachine]

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

You may regret saying that on the internet....where all the Anti-Sopa types are....

So you are happy to pirate? Is that what you are saying?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.338364-U-S-Congress-Shelves-SOPA#13689437

Because all the criticisms for SOPA are based on lies. Have a read yourself, the actual bill is linked in the link above.

... A massive tangential jump in logic, twisting things around to make your opponent sound like a bad person... that's a Strawman argument, right?

Am I finally using that word right?

Just because he doesn't support SOPA doesn't mean he does support piracy. Don't make bullshit claims. You aren't helping yourself.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

-snip-

Obvious troll is obvious.
But still, i'd like to point out that what you said was like saying 'Eating oranges encourages cannibalism'.

So... are you actually going to answer my question of what the bill would actually do if it was passed?

Also, the answer is no, i don't advocate piracy, i have never EVER pirated anything.

 

[Palademon]

Woooo! Yeah! Nothing left to say but VICTORY SCREEEEEECH!

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Listen, Dr. Phil, I honestly believe the guy doesn't understand the issue, so I think we should just leave it alone and enjoy the victory. Just go on fucking that Awesomeface.

You are fucking awesome.
(ps, who's Dr. Phil? I just splice this shit together)

Also, i agree *pops open the bubbly*

 

[Sandytimeman]

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

You may regret saying that on the internet....where all the Anti-Sopa types are....

So you are happy to pirate? Is that what you are saying?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.338364-U-S-Congress-Shelves-SOPA#13689437

Because all the criticisms for SOPA are based on lies. Have a read yourself, the actual bill is linked in the link above.

You still don't seem to understand. See this bill would have serious reprecutions on the technical infastructure of the internet. Don't fuck with the damn DNS. Also I'm well aware of what the bill does.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/22/2648219/stop-online-piracy-act-sopa-what-is-it

 

[poiuppx]

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

I think you might be oversimplifying the issue a bit. Simply put, even for those of us who despise piracy, SOPA was not a solution. Ignoring the hyperbole, a system designed to- in effect -make modern protective protocols impossible to use and that focuses on solving piracy issues with redirects- a concept that completely ignores not only the flaws in such a solution and the various work-arounds, but also has no actual impact on any form of piracy aside from torrent grabs & direct downloads off specific individual sites -was not a valid solution. Made no better by the fact that such monitoring and maintenance would require a significant degree of manpower and financial resources. The United States simply does not have that kind of cash to sling around at anything pretending to be a solution to, ultimately, a media-industry-specific problem. Ignoring all piracy problems, this was not the solution the industry or the country needed, and it wasn't where the focus should be. Period.

That said, I am curious why you seem to be such a serious devotee of a rather flawed attempt to curtail piracy. It's effectiveness would have been minimal at best; why champion a poor-man's attempt to solve the problem? Why wouldn't you want to see flawed ideas like SOPA tossed out on their ear, and more effective solutions suggested?

 

[Jimbo1212]

Oh look, misinformed opinion trumps a good policy again....
A sad day for entertainment

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

What are you even on about?
When do you get lied to?
Stop with the tin hat rubbish and just admit you like stealing things.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Listen, Dr. Phil, I honestly believe the guy doesn't understand the issue, so I think we should just leave it alone and enjoy the victory. Just go on fucking that Awesomeface.

You are fucking awesome.
(ps, who's Dr. Phil? I just splice this shit together)

Also, i agree *pops open the bubbly*

The fact that you don't even know who that is makes this all the funnier. Dear god, please search him on Youtube or something.

And relish in the fact that you're on Youtube because if SOPA passed that freedom might not have lasted long

 

[Erttheking]

I seriously cannot believe that people are sad SOPA didn't get passed...ah well, there's always morons in this world.

 

[Rhys95]

Because all the criticisms for SOPA are based on lies. Have a read yourself, the actual bill is linked in the link above.[/quote]

-snip-

So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.

This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.

You may regret saying that on the internet....where all the Anti-Sopa types are....

So you are happy to pirate? Is that what you are saying?

Anti-Sopa dosen't mean Pro-Pirate. The problem was the loose wording of the bill that meant corporations could take down ANY website that had ANY copyrighted material regardless if the website actually uploaded it itself. This includes sites like YouTube who have little control over thier content. It's like sueing a car manufacturer when someone in one of thier cars runs into your own.

Didn't read the bill but will.... unintentional rhymes are fun