Sandytimeman said:
The Cool Kid said:
Sizzle Montyjing said:
The Cool Kid said:
So... if we were all lied to, what would SOPA do?
Because, y'know, i'm pretty fine about it not being enacted even if i believed you.
Rhys95 said:
The Cool Kid said:
This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.
You may regret saying that on the internet....where all the Anti-Sopa types are....
So you are happy to pirate? Is that what you are saying?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.338364-U-S-Congress-Shelves-SOPA#13689437
Because all the criticisms for SOPA are based on lies. Have a read yourself, the actual bill is linked in the link above.
You still don't seem to understand. See this bill would have serious reprecutions on the technical infastructure of the internet. Don't fuck with the damn DNS. Also I'm well aware of what the bill does.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/22/2648219/stop-online-piracy-act-sopa-what-is-it
Another source of distorting the truth:
"SOPA section 103 and PIPA section 4 require payment processors and ad networks to shut down accounts if they receive the right kind of letter from a copyright owner"
What it then says is that such an act was criticised previously and ignores the following part of the bill (Section 103 4 III) which states that you need solid evidence in the letter, and section 103.6 states that if you are wrongfully accused, you can be awarded damages.
What's the problem?
poiuppx said:
I think you might be oversimplifying the issue a bit. Simply put, even for those of us who despise piracy, SOPA was not a solution. Ignoring the hyperbole, a system designed to- in effect -make modern protective protocols impossible to use and that focuses on solving piracy issues with redirects- a concept that completely ignores not only the flaws in such a solution and the various work-arounds, but also has no actual impact on any form of piracy aside from torrent grabs & direct downloads off specific individual sites -was not a valid solution. Made no better by the fact that such monitoring and maintenance would require a significant degree of manpower and financial resources. The United States simply does not have that kind of cash to sling around at anything pretending to be a solution to, ultimately, a media-industry-specific problem. Ignoring all piracy problems, this was not the solution the industry or the country needed, and it wasn't where the focus should be. Period.
That said, I am curious why you seem to be such a serious devotee of a rather flawed attempt to curtail piracy. It's effectiveness would have been minimal at best; why champion a poor-man's attempt to solve the problem? Why wouldn't you want to see flawed ideas like SOPA tossed out on their ear, and more effective solutions suggested?
SOPA may not have been a solution, but it certainly would have helped cut down piracy as joe-average isn't going to know how to work around DNS redirects. It hardly seems a criticism to say google, an extremely wealthy company, would of had to spend money to enforce SOPA. If they couldn't afford it, they would be exempt from the bill as laid out in the first section of it.
Piracy costs the industries we love billions and to see SOPA scrapped though mainly ignorance is just a sad sight showing how blind the masses can be.