The Cool Kid said:
Sizzle Montyjing said:
The Cool Kid said:
This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.
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Y'know what, i won't even bother.
OP: YESSSS!!!
This is good news.
Good news indeed.
ZeroMachine said:
Diablo1099 said:
And in the spirit of this win, I will post Copyrighted material.
Play it again Bison, Play it again...
I realize you already posted it, but still...
Now that we got that out of the way...
The Cool Kid said:
This is disgusting. Almost all the criticisms were based on lies. The fact that this is seen as some sort of victory is appauling and shows how few have bothered to read the bill and how mass ignorance has controlled the internet and will simply harm the industries we love so much.
Please, kindly explain exactly what you mean.
Here's an extract from a thread I did:
Did you ever read the actual Bill that was proposed?
Here it is: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr3261ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr3261ih.pdf
If you read through that you may be surprised at the realisation that almost all the points made by the opposition towards SOPA is simply wrong.
There were claims that SOPA could be enacted without any need for evidence, or very loose evidence.
Wrong - Section 103.4 (B) (ii) & (iii) clearly state you need evidence
There were claims that SOPA could be enacted with no consequences.
Wrong - see above and Section 103.6
There were claims that SOPA would not allow any defence against it being enacted.
Wrong - Section 103.5
There were claims that SOPA would remove freedom of speech.
Wrong - there is nothing in the Bill that even vaguely supports this accusation.
Surprised?
In short, you were all lied to and the result will be that the gaming, film and music industry will lose billions due to people not bothering to read what they were so happy to criticise.
Okay... let's go through this shall we?
Response 1: Yeah, because authorities have never planted false evidence to get someone they want put away.
Response 2: Sure, but that doesn't mean the site won't go down for a set period of time, and while they can sue for damages that's still a rough position to put someone in to the point where they may just be forced to back down by the pressure. The Church of Scientology throws out false court cases left and right (though I think after a while they got an order from the court to stop, could be wrong) to scare off nay sayers.
Response 3: I hadn't heard you couldn't make an appeal anywhere, but all the same this portion makes me like the bill less because it seems to encourage what I mentioned above, the hassling of innocent websites.
Response 4: Anytime you give someone the power to shut down a full website that's limiting freedom of speech... I mean isn't that kind of a duh?
Final words: While you may not like piracy, possibly because you're rich and have never wanted anything you couldn't have, I really do, and so does the majority of this country I'd wager (as the gap between the rich and the poor widens). I view file sharing, and lets call it that, because that's what it is, is a great thing for humanity and the advancement of our arts.
I'm a musician, I produce and mix music, and I can tell you right now that every musician I know actually loves file sharing. File sharing makes our songs available to people, who then become fans, and then go to shows, which is where the artists in the industry really make there money. The only people in the industry who don't like piracy are the millionaire musicians who got rich before the internet and are told by their record companies that piracy is reducing their massive stacks of cash, and of course the record companies who are the one's that really get all the money spent on music. Record companies that don't really do anything for the product except put up the money to advertise and release it. Now you start charing for that music, with no alternatives, good bands never get found because it becomes only what you can buy on beatport, and then no one will go to shows for lack of cash or knowledge of all the great music out there. Neither of those things are good for musicians or the art form.
The film and game industries may not be the same, but I'm still willing to bet that many people have gotten a shared game for a demo and then bought it (I know I have many times in the past), same with movies I'd wager, not all the time, but occasionally I know for a fact it happens. Plus, any true artist, not just in it for the dollar bills (which are the only kind I feel should be respected) wouldn't care, they'd just want you to see their work. Picture all the new artists who now have access to a world of creativity thanks to this new system of file sharing.
Best part is only the money men are getting hurt, and frankly, fuck those guys, they have more than enough to bribe congress to pass laws for them, which means to me they have more than enough in general.
File sharing, as I said, is good for our arts, for the people, and more importantly for our culture and our unity as a culture.
So, reguardless of your little points: Fuck SOPA/PIPA and everything they stand for.
This isn't a world were rich old men should take the freedoms young men are inventing for themselves, especially if no one is getting hurt (show me one bankrupt artist of any kind that blames piracy, please). These works of art aren't just for the rich, or even the middle class, they are for all of humanity to have. It's not theft you fool, it's sharing with friends!
Would you see me sent to jail for burning a CD to share with a buddy?
Or perhaps you would see libraries shut down for sharing one copy of a book they paid for with millions?
Oh, also, YAY!!! One down, one to go, and then we just have to wait until our generation takes over political office and maybe the internet might actually survive without these stupid old fucks mangling it!