U.S. Military Bans Medal of Honor From On-Base Stores

Jared

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..They will just buy it elsewhere...I can understand showing respect for people but, if they have another avenue to get the game then its reall, really pointless
 

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Well, I support this move. In essence to what the military is experiencing, not to mention those possible PTSD scenarios that can be triggered from playing this game, the military takes everything into consideration. Banning the game from military base stores is a good thing, not having to deal with the advertising and fanfare of MoH. But, I also respect the fact that soldiers have the option of getting the game still. Some soldiers use games as a way of venting stress, some soldiers aren't even station in the mid-east. Its not a big deal in term of game sales (though the free advertising helps) but I do respect the military.
 

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DarthLurtz said:
I'm pretty sure the reason here is that Modern Warfare and similar games take place in an alternate reality of some sort, with different terrorists and whatnot.

These guys are actually being fought right now, and that's enough of a difference.
He said it.

Whilst I certaintly don't think MoH should be universally banned, it was a bad idea right now and I agree with the decision to ban it from military base stores.
 

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Nimbus said:
Are you telling me that there are Gamestop stores on Military bases? The fuck?
I thought that...what a strange concept o_O
On the one hand I think this sounds like a reasonable enough move...on the other hand, as other users have said, these are grown men and women who can decide for themselves.
 

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AxCx said:
RebelRising said:
AxCx said:
They do this to honour the soldiers who died defending freedom and the freedom of speech.

Oh, the irony.
Remember people, every military in the history of mankind, is essentially a dictatorship. Just because they carry out the orders of a democracy does not mean that the military itself is a democratic model. Their priorities are cooperation, efficiency, precision, obedience, and optimal results.

Maintaining a strict discipline and a sticking to a centralized ladder of command is what matters to them.

In short: The game doesn't matter, the same rules that apply to us don't apply to them.
Youre preaching to the wrong choir, dude. I know all that. It doesnt make it any less ironic.
I guess so, it's just that concern for soldiers' freedom of speech isn't the way to be looking at this.
 

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Deofuta said:
Absolutly ridiculous that they are not allowing soldiers to make their own decision when it comes to purchasing a product. Yeah, you just have to go off base to get it, but come on now.
Let's consider the alternative: The US Military is pretty much okay with the idea of its own soldiers killing simulated versions of each other using simulated versions of the people trying to kill them. It just looks really bad that way.
 

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Mornelithe said:
RebelRising said:
AxCx said:
They do this to honour the soldiers who died defending freedom and the freedom of speech.

Oh, the irony.
Remember people, every military in the history of mankind, is essentially a dictatorship. Just because they carry out the orders of a democracy does not mean that the military itself is a democratic model. Their priorities are cooperation, efficiency, precision, obedience, and optimal results.

Maintaining a strict discipline and a sticking to a centralized ladder of command is what matters to them.

In short: The game doesn't matter, the same rules that apply to us don't apply to them.
Well...militaries wouldn't last very long if every troop was instilled with the value of individuality. They're the sword in the arm of the populace. In that regard, it's not difficult to assume that not every military soldier, would believe in/agree with the conflict they're going into. And since you can't just 'quit' the military, making them think only about the person next to them, covering your ass as well as the brothers next to you on the line etc..., makes perfect sense.

It's definitely a dictatorship, for sure, but the reasoning behind it is fairly sound.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Coddling each soldier's individual rights is not one of the priorities of military bodies; doing so would seriously affect the performance of the group and the execution of the mission.

It's like what happened with McChrystal. It's not about politics, it's plain insubordination, even if Obama himself is not embroiled in the military machine, he is still technically the Commander-in-Chief. Thus, where any old politician, celebrity, or Joe Schmoe can say whatever he wants about Obama, in McChrystal's case, it's plain dissent, and in the military it's dealt with very seriously.

It couldn't function otherwise.
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
Nimbus said:
Are you telling me that there are Gamestop stores on Military bases? The fuck?
I thought that...what a strange concept o_O
On the one hand I think this sounds like a reasonable enough move...on the other hand, as other users have said, these are grown men and women who can decide for themselves.
These are military bases in places like Germany, the UK, Japan, Turkey, and South Korea. This isn't a Gamestop hunkered down in the middle of Baghdad, riddled with bullet holes and about to collapse from mortar fire. This is a forward operational base where soldiers are stationed to enhance the US Military's power projection capability - they're there so we can respond to just about anything as quickly as possible. It's also easier to fly injured soldiers from Afghanistan to, say, Germany, than it is to fly them all the way back to the USA.

Soldiers, more than anyone, need downtime, or they'll snap... and instead of pouring their coffee on their boss's desk, they have an automatic weapon. Life on a military base is actually surprisingly normalized.
 

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Nimbus said:
Are you telling me that there are Gamestop stores on Military bases? The fuck?
Most large military objects provide accommodation not only to soldiers but also their families. Most of them can even be considered towns (if not cities).

For example, Catterick Garrison here in the UK houses around 12,000 people and even has it's own supermarket.
 

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AxCx said:
RebelRising said:
AxCx said:
RebelRising said:
AxCx said:
They do this to honour the soldiers who died defending freedom and the freedom of speech.

Oh, the irony.
Remember people, every military in the history of mankind, is essentially a dictatorship. Just because they carry out the orders of a democracy does not mean that the military itself is a democratic model. Their priorities are cooperation, efficiency, precision, obedience, and optimal results.

Maintaining a strict discipline and a sticking to a centralized ladder of command is what matters to them.

In short: The game doesn't matter, the same rules that apply to us don't apply to them.
Youre preaching to the wrong choir, dude. I know all that. It doesnt make it any less ironic.
I guess so, it's just that concern for soldiers' freedom of speech isn't the way to be looking at this.
Where did I mention any shred of concern for a soldiers freedom of speech? I dont give a fuck, a soldier knows what he is signing up for.

The irony is still blinding. Thats all im saying. Please, get that into your head, thank you.
Okay. That wasn't clear to me. Chillax.
 

Jaeriko

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I can understand where they are coming from I suppose.

At least they aren't doing it because "video games are bad" or some other bollocks reason. Doing it out of respect for the soldiers seems fine to me.
 

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Jiefu said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
Nimbus said:
Are you telling me that there are Gamestop stores on Military bases? The fuck?
I thought that...what a strange concept o_O
On the one hand I think this sounds like a reasonable enough move...on the other hand, as other users have said, these are grown men and women who can decide for themselves.
These are military bases in places like Germany, the UK, Japan, Turkey, and South Korea. This isn't a Gamestop hunkered down in the middle of Baghdad, riddled with bullet holes and about to collapse from mortar fire. This is a forward operational base where soldiers are stationed to enhance the US Military's power projection capability - they're there so we can respond to just about anything as quickly as possible. It's also easier to fly injured soldiers from Afghanistan to, say, Germany, than it is to fly them all the way back to the USA.

Soldiers, more than anyone, need downtime, or they'll snap... and instead of pouring their coffee on their boss's desk, they have an automatic weapon. Life on a military base is actually surprisingly normalized.
Well of course it isn't riddled with bullet holes and about to collapse, christ knows how you managed to draw that from what I said.
It just didn't occur to me that they might sell video games at military bases.
 

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subject_87 said:
As Graham puts it, 'Is Americans killing other Americans better somehow?'
Somehow...

It's a skin and a name! It's not like it's the Campaign or anything
 

Whytewulf

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I am not sure how I feel about it.. But it's not a huge deal.. They can still order it. And I don't mind a little sensativity either. I mean these men and women are living this every day.
 

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Wow..

I guess you could say they Talibanned it.
*Bud dum tish*