Ubisoft: Bring on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox 1492

BehattedWanderer

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I'm satisfied with where it is now. I've no need to really push things yet. With the Kinect and Move, both of them have spend a large expenditure on new ways of increasing the lifespan of the console, and seeing as the current game price is already on the save for three months per game status, upgrading the consoles mean expending for a new console, expending for new controllers, and the increased dev/publishing cost, which will drive up cost of everything involved. And with things as they are, increasing all that cost means not as many are gonna buy. Let it wait.
 

Orcus The Ultimate

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I'm against, there's still a lot of things possible to do with the PS3 that have not even been considered to use in benefit.
 

Gladion

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Jesus fucking christ, with so many people thinking new hardware does improve nothing besides graphics, you would think this isn't a gaming website but a website for gamer's moms. Seriously folks, educate yourselves.
 

Enrathi

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I'm happy with the current gen as it is. Besides, I believe both Sony and Microsoft said they were aiming for at least a 10 year cycle with the current generation of consoles.
 

dmase

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I really don't wanna put the money in to get better water effects. Thats not what I see as being innovative. Yeah i'd like technology that can store memory more efficiently so i can put more on my console, i'd like bigger game universes, and I'd like to have more complicated mechanics but that all means huge jumps in price. It would be the big three publishers being the only ones putting out product and it would also cost 80 bucks a game. I don't see the limitations to games in this generation.
 

Spygon

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I would like to see a new line up of consoles.This is getting boring and seems to be following the lets save money rather improve the medium tactic.You tried the motion control thing and realised it was a gimick now start building more powerful machines.If your happy with this generation why dont you go and play on a ps1 or a snes because there not much left that the consoles can actually do themselves and its putting a strain on developers as Ubisoft is stating

So we can take another step into the gaming future as there is still alot of thing developers want to do with consoles now let them do it.The improvements in technology and developments over the last 5 years are going to waste due to companies sitting on the current generation.

Its time to show why the games industry is always at the front of technology and drives progress.
 

AwesomeFerret

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If we have new consoles, I don't want a hardware upgrade at all. I mean, HD Wii I suppose would be nice, but not necessary. No, what we really need is for the consoles to become easier to code for, so that new ideas can be developed more easily. It won't just be pitching ideas, ideally a person could just knock together a prototype of what they are suggesting and let the game do the talking. That way, difficult or risky ideas wouldn't require lots of investment, thus encouraging innovation.
 

JET1971

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He said the developers need the new consoles so they can start making games for them, it takes around 2 years to make a game with a ready to go engine. So to get a game on a new console if they sent the hardware to a dev you wouldnt see it until 2013. and if they get it next year... thats 2014.

whats one of the biggest complaints about games on the current consoles? lack of inovation. game A looks and plays like game B but only a little different. thats because the hardware is holding games back, to add something new and refreshing they need to take something that was good out to make it run. You cant have shiny new gameplay mechanics on a system that wont run it.

graphics for consoles has hit a brick wall and still dont compare to a 3 year old PC. misconception that better graphics are more expensive to produce. thats utter bs. making a high poly count model is much less time consuming than making a good looking one in a low poly count, plus you need to do more work on the LOD's becaue they will show closer and thus need more details unlike a game that can run on a system that will show the normal model far enough away that the first LOD can be a standard primitives with alpha channels on planes instead of model. thats 2 LOD's that dont need to be created. thats personal experiance with making 3D models.

now lets consider the meat of the graphics .TGA or .DDS. lets see... take a picture of a texture, make it a seamless tile in about 30-45 seconds in photoshop, apply it to the model. done. todays graphics on consoles cannot handle that level, so its take a picture of a texture, an artist completly redoes it so it has enough detail so you know what it is but not so much that will bog down the console, apply it to the model, then done. thats more time and effort. more time and effort costs more money to do. thats personal experiance skinning the 3D models I made.
 

ryo02

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am in the minority here? I think we are past due for a new generation the current consoles or atleast the wii and 360 just dont cut it anymore. as things stand developers have to jump through hoops trying to shoe horn games into the current gen.

as for kinect and move I dont care for them but if you do all you have to do is make next generation backwards compatable with them.

hell the tech has moved on so much you could out pace any current generation console and still make it far cheaper.

(I actually prefer to game on the 360 which is why I want a next generation xbox console)

that being said I think the next generation maybe the one after that (hard to say) are pretty much going to be the last ones. JUST DONT PUT 3D IN THEM.

hows online looking? Im not sure about it its a nice idea but I have reservations any chance current gen consoles could be updated to stream like onlive does? maybe even a hybrid system where they lend their own processing power locally aswell?.
 

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Tzekelkan said:
Yes, what we need is better graphics. Near-photorealism isn't enough for me, I want many more millions of dollars to be poured in the graphics race so the industry becomes so bloated with expensive but graphically advanced shooters that it finally crashes.

Nobody cares about gameplay creativity or artistic expression, all that matters is that the next yearly installement of (the once innovative) Assassin's Creed can come out on a brand new 600$ console.

Oh dear God, for a few moments I thought you were serious.
Then I reread, and saw that you were sane.

Ubisoft Exec: STFU. I'm quite happy with my console, and will be for several years. You know why? Because 1, the Xbox is fine right now, and 2, I have a PC to fall back on.
 

Antari

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And this would be why I generally won't even look at Ubisoft games anymore. They rely entirely on the technology to innovate for them. Instead of just being creative themselves.
 

Farson89

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We still haven't got all the potential out of the current gen consoles yet, we won't need a new generation for years. And besides, by this point are developers really still being held back by technology? I can't remember the last time I read about a developer lamenting about not being able to do what they want because of technological limits.

I really am fine with the current generation, after all Skyrim looks so much better than Oblivion it's incredible they're part of the same console generation.
 

ninja51

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Why is it people in the industry are the ones who cant think criticly about these sort of things? All the time I hear another CEO or higher up thinks a new console should come out.

No one seems to bother to think about it. Technology hasnt advanced terribly far. Things can look better and things can run faster. But they never think about how much new consoles cost to create, and the fact that at the moment, it isnt worth even close to the investment for the developers, and the consumers to invest in a new console. When we have a jump from xbox graphics to xbox 360 graphics take place with the new consoles, then itll be worth it. The billions of dollars it costs to manufacture and design a new system, for rather modest improvements is rediculous, and we wont see new consoles for quite a while because of it.

Doesnt matter though, Microsoft and Sony know it, these idiots not thinking before talking doesnt affect them. The Wii 2 is really only at best going to catch up with the other two.
 

RivFader86

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yeah they should announce something already (no matter how far away ;P) thinking about buying a PS3 and i don't want to spend the money on it just to have the next gen come out 2 years later.
 

Aurora219

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The reason the current gen of consoles has lasted so long is because they're fine as they are, they can still handle the advances.

Talk to a dev and they will often complain about how they have to do ten times as much work for HD textures, triple framerates and massive amounts of content brought on from hard drives and DLC. How do you think a new generation of top notch console hardware is going to affect things? Chances are they'll just carry on, with a few optimisations to standard software. Then one day someone will make full use of the hardware on offer, make a game that's photorealistic and takes all 8 cores or whatever to run properly, and that will again become the AAA norm much to the ire of the whole industry. I'm fine where I am thanks!
 

Vithma

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I don't think with the current economy releasing a new console would be a grand idea.
I'm very happy with my xbox and wii, heck im still playing Mariokart!
Give it another 3-5 years and then maybe just release a new console, wait till the world economy sorts itself out first, no point in selling something if people cannot buy it.
 

Littaly

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This again? Is Ubisoft stuck on repeat? Actually, that would explain why they're churning out a new Assassin's Creed every year...
 

Jabberwock King

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Ubisoft might be able to handle new tech, but it would be a crippling blow to a lot of other studios. Not only would other studios suffer, but consumers would likely have to pay more for each game, possibly up to $100 USD, and who knows how much Australia will have to pay. If Ubisoft wants something to do other than branding 80% of their games with "Tom Clancy's" name and releasing a yearly Assassin escapade, then they should make a triple A game for the Kinect, because it desperately needs something respectable to play.

I am waiting quite patiently for Child of Eden and a bunch of other things I'm being promised until then.

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