Cyber_andyy, I don't think so - or if it is, it'd be hard to prosecute since legally you own a license to play the game however you like. But I'm hardly authoritative... I don't know. I'd say don't buy it though, that's the only way to make Ubi understand.
Ubisoft Clarifies New Online DRM Scheme
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Here's the deal...
I'll buy this game... you guarantee this DRM will never affect my gameplay experience once... not even f'ing once. If it does... you give me and everyone else who paid for this game our money back and one additional free Ubi game...
Put your money where your mouth is if you want people to buy this game legit.
This is the single most bone-headed move I've ever seen.
I'm in disbelief.
I'll buy this game... you guarantee this DRM will never affect my gameplay experience once... not even f'ing once. If it does... you give me and everyone else who paid for this game our money back and one additional free Ubi game...
Put your money where your mouth is if you want people to buy this game legit.
This is the single most bone-headed move I've ever seen.
I'm in disbelief.
I really think piracy is the only way t oprove that this BS will not work. Don't buy the game and they will think "meh people didn't like it" but the same with Spore making one of thier games with this type of stupidity attatched to it one of the most pirated games ever will send the message loud and clear. And if you feel guilty about it (and you should) by a DRM free console version.
So you think the best defense of piracy is to not do anything? It's better they make money off their products and people think they are stingy than give something they've been working on for years for free.hURR dURR dERP said:
That depends entirely on where you live.cyber_andyy said:
In the US, bypassing DRM is apparently illegal.
In Canada, bypassing DRM to gain access to content you have legally perchased is OK, and there might even be legality issues in requiring an internet connect to use a prodct that does not use otherwise the internet in a meaningful way. Privacy issues, as well as the legal issues involved in denying the consumer access to product they own may end up having this blow up in their face.
The best defense to piracy is to produce a product good enough that the majority of people will pay. Piracy exists, has always existed, and will always exist. It cannot be prevented and this DRM does not stop it - it only disables paying customers and punishes us for others' deeds. I will not buy a game that is restrictive in this manner, and I will not support a company who removes my ability to enjoy my purchase when I wish to satiate their fears.
The problem is not with the DRM's piracy protection, it's with the DRM's impact on the paying consumer, which, up until yesterday, I was.
The problem is not with the DRM's piracy protection, it's with the DRM's impact on the paying consumer, which, up until yesterday, I was.
Indeed I know that as long as you own a nes game, its ok to use an emulator and ROM.Veritasiness said:
I might have a look in the manual for the licensing agreement, see what I can get away with
Im in The UK, which luckly, has only really focused on music piracy, and even then its by the ISP's, in a form of warning letters to cut of your internet.DracoSuave said:
To quote Yahtzee: What. Utter. Nonsense.
I buy single-player games so I won't HAVE TO be connected to the internet. There is no multiplayer component, so an internet connection shouldn't be required. Period.
This is right up there with requiring me to sign up with and log into EA.com or BioWare.com via my console in order to acquire DLC. I could swear that's what a MARKETPLACE is for.
*grumble*
If this starts happening with consoles. . .I might give up the hobby altogether. Seriously.
I buy single-player games so I won't HAVE TO be connected to the internet. There is no multiplayer component, so an internet connection shouldn't be required. Period.
This is right up there with requiring me to sign up with and log into EA.com or BioWare.com via my console in order to acquire DLC. I could swear that's what a MARKETPLACE is for.
*grumble*
If this starts happening with consoles. . .I might give up the hobby altogether. Seriously.
Actually, the courts have ruled that it is not. Emulators are legal, but running illegal copies of software on them is not; you've bought the game for the original platform (the NES), and an emulator is running the game on a different platform. As the ROMs cannot be run on the original platform, they are not backup or archival copies, and therefore are not protected under fair use.cyber_andyy said:
Im in The UK, which luckly, has only really focused on music piracy, and even then its by the ISP's, in a form of warning letters to cut of your internet.[/quote]DracoSuave said:
In Canada, it's been decided that protecting DRM is not in the best interest of Canadians, and therefore, we've pretty much ignored the companies' request for tougher laws.
The irony is that we're also not more or less prone to piracy. It doesn't make a bit of difference up here in that regard in either direction. The current laws work just fine.
UbiSoft seems to have missed the point that it's not about worrying about what happens when you disconnect, it's about the fact that this kind of DRM exists in the first place. Even though we're finally hitting a point where you can be connected to the Internet at all times there still will never be a 100% failure-proof connection. And when one gets right down to it, what separates this from spyware?
Or the "find a word/picture in a manual and match it on the screen" method. I miss that too. Though to be fair it's hard to do that one nowadays.Del-Toro said:
Someone from Ubisoft PLEASE explain this to me... how does this DRM prevent piracy?
Seriously, HOW!?!?!
If the game is cracked the first thing to be removed is this pointless "phone home" feature and excuse me but won't that just make the pirated copy more appealing than the legitimate one?
BTW, what are my rights if I buy the game legally but then download a cracked copy that has this feature removed? Would I be breaking the law as I have bought "a copy" I'm just getting the copy MINUS a really lame and pointless feature.
NOTE: the music industry has given up on DRM as well, even most of iTunes new music is DRM-free and Amazon MP3 has always been 100% DRM free.
Seriously, HOW!?!?!
If the game is cracked the first thing to be removed is this pointless "phone home" feature and excuse me but won't that just make the pirated copy more appealing than the legitimate one?
BTW, what are my rights if I buy the game legally but then download a cracked copy that has this feature removed? Would I be breaking the law as I have bought "a copy" I'm just getting the copy MINUS a really lame and pointless feature.
NOTE: the music industry has given up on DRM as well, even most of iTunes new music is DRM-free and Amazon MP3 has always been 100% DRM free.
ARRGG, but zee screen tear in zee console verzion of Assassin's Creed 2... achtung, it vas horrible, unt the textures, unte ze frame-rate... every-shing else, only the great PC could solve all of those problems.
Seriously, of all the console games, AC2 pushes it TOO FAR and more than either console can reasonably handle.
Assassin's creed 2 looks like a wonderful game... but looking at the figures it is let down as compromises in the frame buffer have been made in other areas:
-just 720p with 2xAA
I know it's the standard and that was fine and dandy early in this generation for the murky games like Gears of War 1 but come on, things have moved on and this deserved 1080p with 4xAA which ONLY the PC platform can offer for likely the next 3 years when the next gen eventually comes.
-Frame rate + screen tear
this is symptomatic of the consoles struggling to make the game as detailed as it is and makes the game choppy and ugly impairing the visual appeal and even how the game plays. Remember, right up until the 3D generation every game was 60 frame per second STANDARD and if you haven't have the opportunity of playing games in buttery smooth 60fps with solid v-sync then it's like trying to explain the taste of a good beef steak to a vegan
-Textures, pop in, detail in general
This is another area where AC2's Venice suffers. Take a look at the NPC's faces and it's like a PS2 game, a compromise for the environmental detail and all over AC2 there are examples of the game stretching beyond what the 360 or PS3 can quite handle with texture pop in another shortcoming. But PC is a zero-compromise platform
PC can allow Assassin's Creed 2 to reach it's FULL potential... but this DRM just makes the price of admission far too expensive... unless you resort to piracy and/or cracks.
Seriously, of all the console games, AC2 pushes it TOO FAR and more than either console can reasonably handle.
Assassin's creed 2 looks like a wonderful game... but looking at the figures it is let down as compromises in the frame buffer have been made in other areas:
-just 720p with 2xAA
I know it's the standard and that was fine and dandy early in this generation for the murky games like Gears of War 1 but come on, things have moved on and this deserved 1080p with 4xAA which ONLY the PC platform can offer for likely the next 3 years when the next gen eventually comes.
-Frame rate + screen tear
this is symptomatic of the consoles struggling to make the game as detailed as it is and makes the game choppy and ugly impairing the visual appeal and even how the game plays. Remember, right up until the 3D generation every game was 60 frame per second STANDARD and if you haven't have the opportunity of playing games in buttery smooth 60fps with solid v-sync then it's like trying to explain the taste of a good beef steak to a vegan
-Textures, pop in, detail in general
This is another area where AC2's Venice suffers. Take a look at the NPC's faces and it's like a PS2 game, a compromise for the environmental detail and all over AC2 there are examples of the game stretching beyond what the 360 or PS3 can quite handle with texture pop in another shortcoming. But PC is a zero-compromise platform
PC can allow Assassin's Creed 2 to reach it's FULL potential... but this DRM just makes the price of admission far too expensive... unless you resort to piracy and/or cracks.