- Mar 23, 2004
Right, because for all the millions who shop at Walmart, there's of course nobody who bothers going to Armani Exchange for their clothes. For all the Dodge Dakotas out there, nobody bothers buying a Nissan Titan. For all the copies of Amnesia: The Dark Descent sold, nobody bothers to buy Skyrim.OutrageousEmu said:How the fuck would that work? Less popular games charge more? How in the hell would that help them at all?Wolfram01 said:Because clearly pizza is charged to us based on how long it takes us to eat, not on how much ingredients and labour and overhead cost to make it...The Woolly One said:But OutrageousEmu is right - £50 is a happy medium.Wolfram01 said:Or, you know, the Atari game should have cost $5.OutrageousEmu said:This is the industry that charged $60 for a 30 second Atari game. How in the hell do you say a game with 70,000 times the playing length and several trillion times the content should be worth less than that?
They did find a happy medium - $60. The price should be around $110. And for games like Skyrim, $230.
PS: I'm fairly sure you're being sarcastic, but I felt I needed to reply in case you're actually that stupid. Hard to tell sometimes.
A large pizza costs about £12 and lasts maybe an hour. A decent meal can cost £40/£50 and lasts a couple of hours. Even a game like Portal 2 provides dozens of hours of entertainment for £50 - the same as four pizzas. Something like CoD or Skyrim can provide hundreds of hours of entertainment. Thats pretty good value to me.
You could probably build a very simplistic Flash game that has infinite length (random generating dungeons for example) in a matter of days... doesn't mean it should be worth more than five cents.
Do you think CoD MW3 took anywhere near as long or as much money to make as Battlefield 3 or Skyrim? No fucking way. Plus it sells a shit ton more overall, which means they should actually charge a hell of a lot less! Instead they jack their profit margin through the roof. Good for business? Yep! Good for consumers? No!
Decreasing prices would just drive people to the cheapest games, which would just dumb down the tastes of gaming as a whole. Good for consumers? Well, they get their crap cheaper. Good for gaming? Holy ************, not anywhere close.
But fair enough, a game should charge for labour, materials, and a healthy profit on top of that. And woah, lookit that, that price is $60. Almost as if game developers already worked this out.
And people complain about $60 as they would about it costing anything - because the people who do complain about price are either too poor (in which case they may need to recognise that gaming is just a hobby outside their price range - sad but true) or, more likely, because they're entitled whingers. Like the people who demand well kept roads and high standards of public education but don't want to have to pay any taxes.
A product is as valuable as people are willing to pay for it. If Ubisoft thinks "95%" of PC gamers are pirating their game then something must be terribly wrong when there's plenty of games/publishers making loads of cash on PC. Maybe that something is that the real value of the product is far less than the $60 they want for it so it doesn't sell like they hoped, and then they have to make up stupid numbers and blame arbitrary "pirates".
Let's say someone engineers a product and that costs $100,000. Then to fabricate it, it's another $10,000. To sell 2 products they'd cost over $60,000. But wait, if they can sell 10 products, the price drops to $20,000! 100 items it's only $11,000!
You can't possibly believe when MW3 breaks all kinds of sales records, and given that it came out in only 1 year, and given that it runs on the same engine as the other CoDs (plus a little tweaking), that it could possibly have cost the same to produce as a game like Skyrim, whether looking at whole development cost or cost per sold item. Obviously they're just charging $60 because they can get away with it. It is not at all a competitive market. If Skyrim sold for $70 and MW3 sold for $30 I would consider it reasonable. Premium rate for a premium product (well, hopefully they'd fix more bugs before shipping) and low rate for a pile of poo.