It must be so hard for you, I feel for you, I really do. I can't imagine how hard it must be to have your attention drawn to hate crimes and other horrible social injustices. Is this a joke? Do you not understand relationship dynamics or something? It's about more than what people do when they're naked, like there are more aspects to homosexuality than gay sex. And where are you living that you are constantly bombarded by people shouting their gayness from the rooftops?michael87cn said:Who cares?!?! WHO CARES?!?!
I am so sick of gay people shouting to the heavens their sexual orientation. GOOD FOR YOU! But it's kind of supposed to be... a PRIVATE thing. It's YOUR business not MY business what you do when you're naked with other people. I do NOT care, I do NOT want to hear about it all day every day everywhere I go.
Again... GOOD FOR YOU! NOW SHUT UP ALREADY!
Is a video game hero gay? GOOD FOR THEM, I don't care. I just want to play the game.
Gay people are fine. Except when they're exceptionally needy and attention whores. No one likes an attention whore.
Agreed, in part. I'm not interested in hearing what your personal sexuality is unless I'm trying to get into your pants, and if I AM, and haven't figured it out already, I really shouldn't be trying to get into your pants. BUT, and here's the important part: People are still forcing others to yell and bring attention to their sexuality, because these people are trying to pretend these other sexualities don't exist. Basically, this is a shouting match between two kids, one with their fingers in their ears yelling, "La la la la la la! I can't here you, the only people who exist are straight!" And the other kid yelling, "I'm not straight, AND I exist, so you're already wrong."michael87cn said:Who cares?!?! WHO CARES?!?!
I am so sick of gay people shouting to the heavens their sexual orientation. GOOD FOR YOU! But it's kind of supposed to be... a PRIVATE thing. It's YOUR business not MY business what you do when you're naked with other people. I do NOT care, I do NOT want to hear about it all day every day everywhere I go.
Again... GOOD FOR YOU! NOW SHUT UP ALREADY!
Is a video game hero gay? GOOD FOR THEM, I don't care. I just want to play the game.
Gay people are fine. Except when they're exceptionally needy and attention whores. No one likes an attention whore.
A lot of people didn't even notice it however. I still see comments from people that don't realize Bill was gay. And that's what makes it work; His preference gets as much exposure as Joel or Tess'. With Joel and Tess you can tell there's something going on between them, but you're not exactly sure what. And so it is with Bill and Frank.CriticKitten said:Which is another reason I didn't like the implications from Last of Us. It wasn't added to "enhance the character", it was added to check off a box on someone's "equality" checklist. And that's sad.
Rather late reply but this exact, almost literal thing happened to me in Dragons Dogma.AntiChri5 said:I would love a game where you are the stereotypical "mid-30s stubbly-bearded brown-haired white guy with a raspy voice" whose lover (who has a gender neutral name) was abducted by the villain. After fighting through all the bad guys, he is finally reunited with his lover who turns out to be a dude. The reactions would be so goddamn funny.
Anyway, what about New Vegas? I was under the impression that that handled it's gay characters rather well too.
So what counts as "Shouting to the heavens"? Mentioning that they're gay? Kissing in public? Existing?michael87cn said:Who cares?!?! WHO CARES?!?!
I am so sick of gay people shouting to the heavens their sexual orientation. GOOD FOR YOU! But it's kind of supposed to be... a PRIVATE thing. It's YOUR business not MY business what you do when you're naked with other people. I do NOT care, I do NOT want to hear about it all day every day everywhere I go.
Again... GOOD FOR YOU! NOW SHUT UP ALREADY!
Is a video game hero gay? GOOD FOR THEM, I don't care. I just want to play the game.
Gay people are fine. Except when they're exceptionally needy and attention whores. No one likes an attention whore.
TV Tropes [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLawOfConservationOfDetail] does a respectable job of explaining why this idea won't really work.Brian Tams said:How about a game where two gay characters can exist on the same squad but not be attracted to each other romantically or sexually? I mean, in mass effect 3, the only squad mates that came out as gay/bi were the ones that could be romanced by shep. How come you couldn't have a gay squad member who just wasn't attracted to Shepherd?
Petty complaint, I know, but just because two characters are gay doesn't mean they're obligated to fuck somewhere down the narrative line.
Actually in ME1 there were files hidden that were disabled that allowed Kaidan to be romanced by MShep as well as FemShep. As I said, however, they were disabled with the release of the game and can only be re-enabled by importing a save game of mucking about with things.Chaosritter said:Well, he was originally only a romance option for female characters, and only mentioned finding female characters attractive. So if he was bisexual from the start, they did a great job at hiding it.Pink Apocalypse said:Was it a straight character 'turned gay'? Or was it a bisexual character that remained bisexual?
Weird how people still insist on black-or-white absolutes.
I feel the same way. I think it would be hilarious to fire up a game, play through as a gay guy just for the lols and no further fanfare is required. But if a game says "You are James Reynolds, a Gay Space Marine who sets out on a mission to save the world," Pass. I don't care one way or the other about "Marriage Equality" but if you make me play as a Gay Guy just because he is Gay and that is controversial, I won't buy it.Adam Jensen said:He's right about sales. I wouldn't buy a game with a gay protagonist. I don't have a problem admitting that because I'm not homophobic. I don't feel the need to fake extra political correctness. I don't have anything against homosexuality, I just hate mandatory romances in video games. That's not why I play them. And it would be especially weird if that mandatory romance isn't something that I can relate to. I want to relate to the protagonist. I can't do that if you shove his/her sexuality in my face like it's somehow important. RPG's like Mass Effect and Dragon Age I'm OK with because I can just choose not to engage my character in a romantic relationship if I don't want to. And having that freedom makes it more likely for me to explore the possibilities.
There is one thing that does bother me even about those games. Take Mass Effect for example. Characters in that game react to Shepard like they don't know that he/she is hetero/homosexual. They should fuckin' know! So why not simply let people choose their sexuality in the character creator before the game?