UK Government to block porn

Takoto

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I just read about this on another forum, it makes me so glad my Mum knows and doesn't care that I look at hentai and the like, but I feel really sorry for all the people who have parents that believe "porn is wrong!" or something.
 

Treblaine

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It fucking better be "opt in" as bull-fucking-shit am I going to accept that the government will force every home-owner to write a pathetic begging letter to their ISP of "Please can I access my porn, sir"

As EVERY SINGLE ADULT will want this filter removed at these filters are notoriously unreliable. And how do you even know if they are reliable? If a website is blocked, is it blocked for actual porn or is the filter again tricked? Surely we can be our own judge, surely we are gone from the draconian dark ages when the public is to be patronised and herded like sheep.

demoman_chaos said:
Does anyone raise their own kids anymore or has the government been hired as the nanny?
As Ian Hislop said: "We want the Welfare state but not the nanny state, we want to make a mess and expect the government to clean it up afterwards"

The way I am beginning to see it is the nanny-state is an inevitable part of the welfare state. The government can only have to clean up so much shit, and the flow of shit getting so bad (as those responsible are not paying for it) before the government wants to go to the source.

Oh. Fuck. The republicans where right.

Oh jesus WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE RIGHT?!?!?
 
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I sure do hope this is linked to the greater need for religion in a society where the majority isn't religious!

Hooray for a non-biased and realistic government!
 

Treblaine

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Jinx_Dragon said:
I told this to my boyfriend and he just snorted.

You see, both he and I are networking experts... hell it is our field of training and we are in tech support so sort of know these things. The chances of this block working is less then 0.001%. Even the best software created for one of the more totalitarian nations, and I mean Australia not China, was bypassed by a 12-13 year old kid who has a fraction of the ability my boyfriend does.

The British government does not have a chance.
What the UK does have the balls to go though is make BYPASSING the filter illegal. So it doesn't have to be impossible, just actual and even remotely traceable. Then the police can bump up their arrest targets with some easy non-violent suspects. After all, it's hard work going after really dangerous criminals, best bump up the numbers with some soft and easy targets.
 

Liberaliter

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This won't happen, people in the UK will still be able to find porn online as easily as they can now regardless of what happens.
 

Terminate421

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Technically, they can't do that. Most porn sites run on businesses, denying their right to sell there when it isn't physically harmful is illegal. Its not gonna happen.
 

Terramax

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They can't even block wikileaks let alone porn.

Besides, the porn industry brings in a lot of money to just about every country. I doubt England is any exception. They'd be mad. Then again, seeing as Boris Johnson is heading London...
 

mad825

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well I don't mind really, I suppose I could understand it for a default measure but still allow adults on request. meh doesn't bother me.

this is not new either, Moblie internet network such as O2 and Orange are already doing it.
 

Nickolai77

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Treblaine said:
As Ian Hislop said: "We want the Welfare state but not the nanny state, we want to make a mess and expect the government to clean it up afterwards"

The way I am beginning to see it is the nanny-state is an inevitable part of the welfare state. The government can only have to clean up so much shit, and the flow of shit getting so bad (as those responsible are not paying for it) before the government wants to go to the source.

Oh. Fuck. The republicans where right.

Oh jesus WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE RIGHT?!?!?
Don't worry, you don't have to turn into a republican. The trappings of the welfare state are economic (i.e- unemployment, child and incapacity benefit, JSA, minimum wages etc) whereas filtering out porn is more..."social". It is the government dictating what you can and can not do, and thereby a limitation on social freedom. It is certainly not providing any assistance to the people, as opposed to what the Welfare State does.

What i'm trying to say here is that this government act has nothing to do with the welfare state, but you could call it an example of the Nanny State.
 

TerribleAssassin

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When the does this come in to practice? Need to get as much done as possible

But, in all seriousness someone will find a way to bypass it, and even if they don't, there's still trench coats and dark alleyways.
 

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Zeithri said:
How is this helping anyone?
This is just so a bunch of stuck up people can be even more stuck up..

Oh wait..
"Pornography sites will be blocked at source unless people specifically ask to view them."
So basically, nothing will be different then!
Exactly. I thought that this story sounded a bit fishy. How can you just say that you're blocking all the porn? It's like that one clip from Robot Chicken that's not on YouTube...
 

mad825

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Liberaliter said:
This won't happen, people in the UK will still be able to find porn online as easily as they can now regardless of what happens.
porn is not being block Per se, it's just a block for those who are under 18.
 

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Because, you know, nobody looks at porn. It's nor like it's that integral part of our society that everybody's ashamed of talking about or something. It's not like pretty much everyone will miss it when it's gone. It's not like they're only doing this to save face.

This is stupid, it's a choice in the end - not a hazard.
 

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mad825 said:
Liberaliter said:
This won't happen, people in the UK will still be able to find porn online as easily as they can now regardless of what happens.
porn is not being block Per se, it's just a block for those who are under 18.
And how they are going to do that ?
 

Rachel317

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They actually can't block ALL pornographic sites, more and more pop up each day. One gets blocked, another is established in its place. It's naive to think that they'll actually succeed with this ridiculous plan.

My second thought is...shouldn't the parents of these children be held accountable? 1 in 3 children aged 10 has viewed porn in Britain...where were the parents of these kids when they were surfing the net?

This shouldn't be a case of dictating the internet, it should be a case of better help and education for parents on the dangers of the internet.

If parents are able to create their own blocks, then that's good. They should be able to control what their children do and do not view.
However, a 10 year old shouldn't really know the ins and outs (no pun intended) of sex in the first place. And, more specifically, they shouldn't have any knowledge of the existence of porn. Sometimes, you can't control what your kids hear about, via school friends or whatever, but a more concerted effort by the parents must be made to educate children on pornographic material.
 

Megacherv

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All these posts about doing nothing, I don't think it'll be that simple. I think it'll be more of an opt-in by asking the ISP. This means that the kid can't just click on a link saying he's over 18. It will actually prevent them from seeing it unless the kid asks their parents, and liek that will ever fucking happen.
 

Delusibeta

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Dana22 said:
And how they are going to do that ?
That is the big, glowing question, right there. This law will not work. Less legitimate porn sites will leap through the technological loopholes of the ISP's blocking software.

Never mind the slippery slope argument, which seems to be relevant considering AFAIK they show no intention of repealing the Digital Economy Bill. Censorship in the UK, indeed.