UK Teen Jailed For Cyber-Bullying

hailene

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I don't understand. She didn't do anything.

I ought to be free to say anything I want. What happened to freedom of speech? Surely if I said, "I'm going to be robbing a bank next Thursday", I couldn't be thrown into jail. Even if I had a record of, say, shop lifting.

This is a dangerous step in the wrong direction.
 

Anton P. Nym

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hailene said:
I ought to be free to say anything I want. What happened to freedom of speech? Surely if I said, "I'm going to be robbing a bank next Thursday", I couldn't be thrown into jail. Even if I had a record of, say, shop lifting.

This is a dangerous step in the wrong direction.
Your quoted line would indeed get you arrested and investigated, just as falsely crying "Fire!" in a crowded theatre [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater] would.

But that's not what happened. What happened was a direct threat from one person to another... and whatever free-speech advocates claim, there has never been a right to threaten another individual with bodily harm. So if I, say, emailed you a photograph of myself pointing a pistol at the camera and a map to your front door I could indeed be arrested and charged with uttering a threat.

My rights end when they overly constrain yours (and vice versa) because it's impossible to have a viable society otherwise. People thinking this is bad aren't, in my opinion, thinking it through far enough to envision themselves held in justifiable terror of their lives by someone else.

-- Steve
 

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Griever18 said:
maybe this will help cut down on random people telling me that they're going to "hunt me down, rape my mom and then kill me."
what thats just typical xbox live banter try having some 13 year old telling you hes going to rip of your skin and do obscene things to you.

Anyway OT what that judge said is true 4 people i know have commited suicide because they were bullied, i was bullied and theres no excuse for the bully apart from justifying their meagre pathetic existence by making someone elses life a misery.
 

Brett Alex

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Well, she deserves her punishment.

However, I'm not sure about that photo...She looks a bit like Lund from Doomsday Arcade...Or is it me?
Its not just you.

If he's absent from the next episode then we'll know why.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
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If I'm interpreting correctly, then I can say this: I doubt the cells are co-ed, for that very reason, so she probably won't be "nicked".

All this is based off one, more probably wrong, assumption. I'd hate you make an ASS of U and ME, but I had to say what I've said.
I'm using the general purpose, civy mentality that "nicked" just means arrested.

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She will be a hit in prison though, a looker like her.
Actually, from the looks of her I'm willing to bet she's been hit already.
Oh no you didn't!
That's what I meant. I mistook "nicked" for... "hit" ... Ya know? Just sounded like that to me.
 

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Am I the only one who read the title and thought "4Chan is fucked."?
Nope, if you read the last 4 pages we've established that.
 

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UK Teen Jailed For Cyber-Bullying



An 18 year old in the UK has becomes the first person to be jailed in the UK for bullying over the internet.

18 year old Keeley Houghton has been given three months in a young offenders' institute and a five month restraining order after threatening to kill someone on Facebook, the first person in the UK to be jailed for cyber-bullying. Houghton claimed that she wrote the messages late at night while drunk and had no memory of it, but it was quickly shown that that was not the case.

The comments were posted at 4pm on the 12th of July and remained on Houghton's Facebook page for 24 hours before being removed. The police became involved when Ms Houghton approached the victim Emily Moore while she was out with her boyfriend, ostensibly to apologize, but then became threatening when her apology was rebuffed. Houghton has two prior convictions for bullying Ms Moore, including one in 2005 for assaulting her on the way home from school which led to Houghton's expulsion.

While Houghton appeared contrite during her hearing and admitted her involvement, District Judge Bruce Morgan was unimpressed, saying: "Since Emily Moore was 14 you have waged compelling threats and violent abuse towards her ... Bullies are by their nature cowards, in school and society. The evil, odious effects of being bullied stay with you for life ... On this day you did an act of gratuitous nastiness to satisfy your own twisted nature."

Source: The Telegraph [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/6067897/Teenager-is-first-to-be-jailed-for-Facebook-bullying.html]



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I am glad bullies are getting punished. I am scared the governments are watching us on the internet.
 

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A Pious Cultist said:
Am I the only one who read the title and thought "4Chan is fucked."?
I didn't think of it, but now I'm smiling happily at the thought "4chan people have to act like real humans? And not subhuman monsters?"

RelexCryo said:
I am glad bullies are getting punished. I am scared the governments are watching us on the internet.
Erm, its Facebook. Not like they are tracking you; And I'm pretty sure the police were called in by the victim. I doubt the police have a unit devouted to track each and every Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace update incase of criminal threats.
 

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Doug said:
A Pious Cultist said:
Am I the only one who read the title and thought "4Chan is fucked."?
I didn't think of it, but now I'm smiling happily at the thought "4chan people have to act like real humans? And not subhuman monsters?"

RelexCryo said:
I am glad bullies are getting punished. I am scared the governments are watching us on the internet.
Erm, its Facebook. Not like they are tracking you; And I'm pretty sure the police were called in by the victim. I doubt the police have a unit devouted to track each and every Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace update incase of criminal threats.
My post was partially a joke. The idea scares me, but I know that is not what was going on here.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
This comment makes all other replies to this thread irrelevant. It sums up exactly what everyone should be thinking in the best possible way.

Good for you, sir.

(And, no, this isn't sarcasm.)