UK's block on internet pron: what do you think?

[Noswad]

Mr Cameron, i like to think of myself of a reasonable minded person, you're running the country in some very difficult times and well i can't bring myself to support that many of your policies i can usually accept that you have the countries best interests at heart even if you are often misguided and a bit stupid.

However as someone forced to still be living with his parents because the job market is so piss poor and i cant get a job that pays well enough to make rent, while said parents would probably not object to porn being blocked. My annoyance can only be displaced with this humble gif.



In this blatant attempt to win some votes by appealing to a very vocal group in society i have just been completely dicked over as will a silent majority of Married men, singles in shared accommodation, people of legal age living with parents and a other groups i can't be arsed to think off. Never mind the children, that childhoods have been ruined(i turned out fine thank you very much) all those groups are of voting age and i hope like me they will remember this when standing in front of the ballot box. I appreciate the validity of the original aims relating to child pornography but there were less carpet bomby ways to do this.

Ah well time to get downloading before turn off day comes, like a squirrel preparing for winter, so must i build stocks to last me until i can get my own place.

 

[zidine100]

Oh look is an election coming up, all i can see here is PLEASE PLEAAAASE VOTE FOR ME.

On a side note, i wonder if this will include jail time, because you know our jails aren't full enough as it is.

 

[Robby Foxfur]

Their arguments for doing this sound very similar to the whole 'video games corrupt children' thing, so yeah, it's garbage.

It's just a bid for some good PR. It wont accomplish anything and will probably cost more than it's worth, but that's politicians for you.

Ha, I highly doubt that pissing off every male in the UK is going to be good PR.

Don't think it'll just be males, a good number of females also watch porn.

This is in an of it self a stupid man doing something stupid, and the fact that I've heard the think of the kids banner being brought up just puts the last nail in the coffin. This is nothing more than an attempt to force beliefs on people and its sad that someone in a seat of power as such would need such a eating in order to have sense bestowed in his brain.

Furthermore I thought of the kids that are being "protected". What do they want? well i imagine they want the same things adults do ... porn and cat videos so Who is really being protected here? lol

 

[Robby Foxfur]

Their arguments for doing this sound very similar to the whole 'video games corrupt children' thing, so yeah, it's garbage.

It's just a bid for some good PR. It wont accomplish anything and will probably cost more than it's worth, but that's politicians for you.

Ha, I highly doubt that pissing off every male in the UK is going to be good PR.

Don't think it'll just be males, a good number of females also watch porn.

This is in an of it self a stupid man doing something stupid, and the fact that I've heard the think of the kids banner being brought up just puts the last nail in the coffin. This is nothing more than an attempt to force beliefs on people and its sad that someone in a seat of power as such would need such a eating in order to have sense bestowed in his brain.

Furthermore I thought of the kids that are being "protected". What do they want? well i imagine they want the same things adults do ... porn and cat videos so Who is really being protected here? lol

Oh look is an election coming up, all i can see here is PLEASE PLEAAAASE VOTE FOR ME.

On a side note, i wonder if this will include jail time, because you know our jails aren't full enough as it is.

that's ok they'll just put you on a ship and send you to Australia that worked out so well the last time they did it.
and think of it this way AUS doesn't have an internet porn filter

 

[Smeatza]

I don't understand.
David Cameron has had intense resistance to this little project of his since the start.
It's fuck all to do with the Tories, wasn't in their manifesto or anything like that.
Goes directly against the "less nanny-state interference" angle he campaigned on.
And worst of all nobody fucking wants it.

But as far as I can tell, it's happening, even if it does get shot down again, it'll just come back, as it has been doing for the past two to three years.

On top of this is the fact that the Tories aren't giving the responsible body enough funding to achieve what they want anyway.
So anybody who's paying attention knows that it wont work, in principle, or in practice. The only possible reason for this law to be pushed through is in order to exploit it to block anything the government deems "offensive."

I hate this country, or more specifically, its government and its apathy.

 

[freedash22]

Well, at least now we know what party/candidate the dudes in UK will be voting against. But seriously, they really need to do something else with their free time and press speeches. If you block porn, you only increase the underground market and cause various problems with people using proxies, VPNs and, wait for it... doing the real thing out of frustration and curiosity! Torrents will be banned, Game of Thrones will be banned, nude artworks will be banned, existing movies will be taken off shelves and these filters will block more than they need to causing other problems not to mention the ones said earlier by other users.

Cameron must have some really serious sexual frustrations to be approving this kind of censorship crap.

 

[madster11]

What do i think?
I think i'm glad i don't live in the shithole that is the UK.

I urge anybody still living in the UK to get out now, while you still can. This is just 1 small thing in a huge list of reasons why the UK is currently the worst '1st world country' to live in.

 

[irok]

Any and all attempts to control the internet will fail , it is a thing in and of itself and anyone who claims to have any sort of control over the blocking of content always makes me question what kind of person they are, do they use the internet at all? do they realize the task they are up against and how much it would cost, not only that do they realize that there will be people out there actively trying to stop them with things like proxies, mirrors, vpns etc. as well as possible attacks against their own IT infrastructure as a result.

 

[stroopwafel]

It's completely futile ofcourse but exemplary of how a nanny state wants to infringe further and further on civil liberties. If the intent to ban porn is indeed to protect children from watching it than yeah, that is indeed not the responsibility of the state but of the parents. I don't believe that though, I see the hand of extremist ideological focus groups here and an easy way for a politician to score points while deflecting from the real issues.

 

[tomtom94]

Earlier I raised the rhetorical question of Cameron banning page 3.

Well it turns out someone actually asked him that exact question:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/22/cameron-no-ban-sun-page-3

 

[wolfyrik]

It's completely futile ofcourse but exemplary of how a nanny state wants to infringe further and further on civil liberties. If the intent to ban porn is indeed to protect children from watching it than yeah, that is indeed not the responsibility of the state but of the parents. I don't believe that though, I see the hand of extremist ideological focus groups here and an easy way for a politician to score points while deflecting from the real issues.

Well that's exactly it. Cameron brings up emotive subjects such as (child)porn whenever it's useful to do so, not because he cares about it. Look back over the timing of these statements and you'll see an interesting correlation. The present reason for bringing it up is the disovery that one of Cameron's "advisers" just happens to be PR spokesperson for a very prominent tobacco firm, which just happens to have been lobbying against the Cigarette Packaging bill, which just happens to have now been terminated. When this was pointed out Cameron, instead of discussing it in thet open, went on a rant about forcing Google to do more against child abuse images on the net. Of course, all of his suggestions and demands are unworkable or counter-productive in tackling the issues they're supposed to but that's not what it's about.

Cameron's government is quite possible even more dispicable than Thatcher's. I don't recall Maggie cynically using the abuse of children as a heart-string pulling red-herring.

 

[The Wykydtron]

If SOPA didn't go through in the US yet if Dave takes our fucking porn away successfully i'm going to be so pissed.

You don't touch the PORN Dave! The line has been crossed! It's all very well going "lol families lol" what about all the single men (and women if you're into that, I don't discriminate) who will probably go a little bit loopy over it? AKA me. T_T

Fuck it, corroding childhood? Somebody link him to 4Chan. Somebody. I'll show you corroding childhood...

Quick question: Would hentai count? Because that would be a good backup plan... Though like 99% of hentai is hilarious tentacle shenanigans. I guess Dave wouldn't think to go looking though. That's the thing with The Internet, it's fucking HUGE.

It's obviously not going to do anything. Where would you even start? Not mention there are going to be several ways to bypass any filters if you're really desperate.

Dave, just stick to (failing at) running the country ok? Leave our porn out of it and maybe every single man in the UK won't vote your arse out of office ASAP. Do something constructive mmmk hun?

Though that would be the most awkward proper protest ever... Imagine signs with "give us our porn" written on it around Downing Street. Fucking hilarious.

 

[Me55enger]

I'm sorry but how is watching porn detrimental to children?

In the event you were listening to BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine show today, many people highlighted that it quite often helped make children.

Cameron is a fool. Taming the internet is like trying to stop the tide. If parents, who as adults should not be penalised should they wish to watch porn, actually woke up, they would realise that you are able to censor what your children access anyhow.

This is lack of perental responsbility masquerading as a great ideal of White Knight Cameron.

Plus someone will evcentually lobby him to drop it.

 

[Laughing Man]

HAHAHAHAHA. You actually think Labour will overturn this crap if they get in next election? Especially with the OTT Media "Labour returns porn access to children" headlines that would inevitably occur.

That's the problem, that statement highlights the EXACT problem with this, the responsibility of what the children are and aren't looking at is being shifted from the parents to the government. At what point in society did looking after someone's child go from being the responsibility of the child's parent to everyone else in society?

In short terms, it's no longer the job of the parent or parents to monitor look after and watch what their child is doing on their internet connected devices but it is instead the job of government, the ISP and everyone else has to pay for it through higher ISP charges, because let's face it this kind of filtering will cost money and the ISPs sure as hell ain't gonna front the cost.

 

[Angie7F]

i think it is stupid.
The three basic urges for humans is supposed to be eating, sleeping and having sex right?
So why are they denying people access to porn?
doesnt make sense to me at all

 

[DSK-]

I'm calling it. He's going to eventually tax the watching and ownership of pornography. Or something.

Also "As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

I love Alpha Centauri.

 

[Davey Woo]

Quote from some MP in that article:
"saying that the killers of schoolgirls April Jones and Tia Sharp had accessed legal pornography before moving on to images of child abuse."

News flash, guys look at porn.
I'm pretty sure EVERYONE who has watched child pornography looked at 'normal' pornography first, I'm pretty sure 90% of people with the internet have looked at porn at least once. It's not like the natural progression is to start watching normal porn and then become a paedophile. It's comments like these that make me feel like MP's really do not think about what they're saying when trying to make an argument for something. The problem is, the headline "PAEDOPHILES LOOK AT NORMAL PORN TOO!!!!111" would actually make some people think banning all porn is a good idea, when really I doubt it will have any affect whatsoever.

Rant aside and on topic, I don't really care either way about the idea personally.

 

[Iron Criterion]

Porn is a great place to start eroding away people's freedoms: Then they can say that anyone against this form of censorship must be a pervert who's angry that they're taking their porn away.

The whole: "Think of the children," argument pisses me off. I don't have a child. I have no desire to father a child. So why am I being treated as though I'm partly responsible in helping to raise other people's children?

 

[Suave Charlie]

Fuck it, let's go back to a time where there was no internet and therefore no child abuse!