- Dec 25, 2010
Whatever happened to being the better person?
If the boys didn't do something incredibly stupid at a party when they see a cute teenage girl passed out...would we even be having this discussion in the first place?HardkorSB said:OK but imagine this:CrazyCapnMorgan said:Title pretty much says it all.
In the face of all the other threads that have come and gone recently, I had to add another one. Not only because it strikes multiple issues at once, but because it also deals with ones we've mentioned seperately time and again.
At the meat of this issue, as stated in the article:
Part of me finds it sad to believe that this girl, who is a victim of a sexual assault, is going to see potentially more jail time than those who helped cover up sexual assaults, like those at Penn State. Furthermore, even as I pose to myself the scenario that the boys in this case might need protection from others, the fact that they took photos of the assault and distributed them amongst their friends makes me instantaneously lose any sympathy towards their protection.A Kentucky girl who was sexually assaulted could face contempt of court charges after she tweeted the names of her juvenile attackers.
Savannah Dietrich, the 17-year-old victim, was frustrated by a plea deal reached late last month by the two boys who assaulted her, and took to Twitter to expose them--violating a court order to keep their names confidential.
Attorneys for the attackers asked a Jefferson District Court judge to hold Dietrich in contempt for lashing out on Twitter. She could face up to 180 days in jail and a $500 fine if convicted. The boys have yet to be sentenced for the August 2011 attack.
"So many of my rights have been taken away by these boys," Dietrich told Louisville's Courier-Journal. "I'm at the point, that if I have to go to jail for my rights, I will do it. If they really feel it's necessary to throw me in jail for talking about what happened to me as opposed to throwing these boys in jail for what they did to me, then I don't understand justice."
Dietrich was assaulted by the pair after passing out at a party. They later shared photos of the assault with friends.
On June 26, the boys pleaded guilty to first-degree sexual abuse and misdemeanor voyeurism. Terms of their plea agreement were not released.
A hearing for the contempt of court charge is scheduled for July 30. Attorneys for Dietrich want it open to the media, while the boys lawyers want it closed.
Both the Gannett-owned Courier-Journal and Dietrich's attorneys "have filed motions to open the proceedings, arguing she has a First Amendment right to speak about what happened in her case," the newspaper said.
An online petition asking the judge to throw out the charges against Dietrich, launched Saturday, has already accumulated hundreds of signatures.
Some superhero Texas Ranger wannabe sees their names, looks up their addresses, goes there and just flat out shoots them.
Or an angry mob gangs up on them and beats them to death or hangs them.
It could happen and if it would, wouldn't the girl be partially responsible for that?
Plus, the case was closed, The verdict reached. She can appeal or something but telling everyone "Here they are, get them for me" (which is what she did by posting their names) is fucked up.
QuantumT said:FWIW, the contempt motion has been withdrawn, so it's somewhat of a moot point now:
This strawman:Mortai Gravesend said:What strawman? I never said that you called for them to go unpunished. Pretty stupid to accuse me of a strawman by accusing me of saying something I didn't. Furthermore going on to babble about me saying she should be able to get away with anything.Father Time said:Are you having fun screaming at your straw man? You sure do spend a lot of time building it.Mortai Gravesend said:Yeah, because you only care about properly punishing the rape victim who retaliates, that's totally about preventing crime!Father Time said:Yeah I actually care about preventing crime instead of revenge, what is wrong with me. And this naming thing applies to every crime budMortai Gravesend said:It's funny how much pity to have for the rapists but not the victim when she does something back.Father Time said:Yes let's make it harder for these people to earn a living thus making them more likely to commit a crime.Tekkawarrior said:I don't see a problem with them being named. If more people were named for their actions then people would stop doing dumb shit.
Oh no their life is ruined and they'll never get a job. Well fuck em I say they should have thought about that before sexually harassing someone.
I disagree with you there friend. Some people like having a control on sex, just because you don't it doesn't mean it's wrong.ZephrC said:snip
And she violated a court order, that's a crime.
You pity the poor victims of the crime of being named for their crime, but no pity for the victim of rape.
I never said they should go unpunished. And you seem to be implying that because she was assaulted she should get away with anything. Sorry that doesn't change that she committed a crime.
Maybe you can have the guts to reply to what I actually said next time?
Twisting a person's position into something different and then attacking that instead is still the definition of a strawman, yes?Yeah, because you only care about properly punishing the rape victim who retaliates, that's totally about preventing crime!