do something bad to someone, same bad thing happens to you, fair.Buretsu said:Hooray for hypocrisy!alex_pink said:hope they get screwed up the ass by their cell mates
do something bad to someone, same bad thing happens to you, fair.Buretsu said:Hooray for hypocrisy!alex_pink said:hope they get screwed up the ass by their cell mates
wow. so you know going to prison isn't bad? the only way to truly be punished is to be prison raped? hmmm, I for one LOVE the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.alex_pink said:do something bad to someone, same bad thing happens to you, fair.Buretsu said:Hooray for hypocrisy!alex_pink said:hope they get screwed up the ass by their cell mates
I believe you plead guilty TO SUCKING AT SPELLING! I got another one. Your held in the contempt of court to SPELL YOUR OR YOU'RE CORRECTLY!spartxn said:The two Plead Guilty. How is that "Covering up" unless u r talking about the laywers and Judge, in which case I say, "Welcome to the United States Justice system".
P.s. It sucks ass. Also Im surprised she isn't facing more time for "contempt"; not saying she did anything wrong nor am I siding with the two boys.
It matters because the boys could be charged with pedophilia but of course thats a side thing and most likely they are not, however if the age of consent is 18 where she is they will have more on their rap record.Wolverine18 said:You can be a license to allow you to be a sex offender?Aprilgold said:I have no clue what the age of consent is where she is, but I don't think that matters since these boys are not licensed sex offenders.
Yes, I know that is calling you on a minor error, but given the rant you gave in the same message on accuracy...
Maybe you should focus more on what they are saying than a few minor errors.
Of course there is. Any time you make a defendant's name public you are causing harm to them. You then have to balance that harm against the benefit society receives. There is a real question if there is ever sufficient societal gain when you name a young offender (and in fact, doing so is almost always illegal in my country)In conclusion, theres honestly nothing wrong with naming them
Plus, whether you agree with the judge or not, you are bound by his decisions unless you appeal them through the courts and they are found to be unlawful. You are required to follow laws (including legal orders by court officers) and breaking those is wrong.
Blablahb said:What sort of medieval thinking is that? Did you even look at the case at all?alex_pink said:They sexually assaulted someone, they shouldn't get plea bargains, they shouldn't get anonymity, they shouldn't get to go for jobs or anywhere else in there lives for that matter without people knowing what they did, and they also don't deserve to live.
She did nothing wrong.
From what it looks like, she drank untill she passed out, and then apparently they made pictures while touching her breasts or something along those victims. The girl didn't even know untill she saw the pictures.
Is that sexual assault? No, that isn't really sexual assault. It's not okay either, but equating it with sexual assault would be a huge overstatement. It's generally referred to as norm-crossing behaviour for that reason. You'll have a hard time getting convictions for that, because typically the punishment for actual sexual assault is extremely heavy. Especially in the retarded US justice system with sex offender registration and such.
You basically want to ruin two lives over something that minor. That's ridiculous. Do you also want to cut off the hands of shoplifters maybe? That's along the same lines over overreaction that you're doing.
Also, you say in defense of someone who lied to the judge about being traumatised, and then repeated that lie to the media, and then knowingly defied a court ruling, that she did nothing wrong?
If by justices you endanger the attackers lives because she's not satisfied by the results, then sure. And no, she's not acting like Gandhi. She's trying to incite violence, not avoid it.trophykiller said:Right, because there's never been an unjust law before. I personally picture what she did to be an act of civil disobedience, like that of Gandhi. In the tweet, she specifically mentions how she sees no justice in the punishment and is willing to face jail time to have her attackers exposed.Tanner The Monotone said:Victim or not, she broke the law and deserves to be punished accordingly.
Yes, but that does sound like exactly the sort of case that you plea bargain down to something that doesn't put you on the registry so that your entire life isn't ruined and that the prosecutor would want to plea bargain down because "felt up drunk girl" is a hard sell to get a jury to damn teenagers for forever (read: the registry). Which makes the court order make a lot more sense, if a big part of the reason for accepting a plea bargain was to avoid the registry and permanent harm for the rest of their life connected to it. I wonder if they could get out of their plea deal, given this court order was violated, destroying part of their reason for accepting a plea deal in the first place?alex_pink said:Blablahb said:What sort of medieval thinking is that? Did you even look at the case at all?alex_pink said:They sexually assaulted someone, they shouldn't get plea bargains, they shouldn't get anonymity, they shouldn't get to go for jobs or anywhere else in there lives for that matter without people knowing what they did, and they also don't deserve to live.
She did nothing wrong.
From what it looks like, she drank untill she passed out, and then apparently they made pictures while touching her breasts or something along those victims. The girl didn't even know untill she saw the pictures.
Is that sexual assault? No, that isn't really sexual assault. It's not okay either, but equating it with sexual assault would be a huge overstatement. It's generally referred to as norm-crossing behaviour for that reason. You'll have a hard time getting convictions for that, because typically the punishment for actual sexual assault is extremely heavy. Especially in the retarded US justice system with sex offender registration and such.
You basically want to ruin two lives over something that minor. That's ridiculous. Do you also want to cut off the hands of shoplifters maybe? That's along the same lines over overreaction that you're doing.
Also, you say in defense of someone who lied to the judge about being traumatised, and then repeated that lie to the media, and then knowingly defied a court ruling, that she did nothing wrong?
touching someone in a sexual way without their consent is sexual assault
Perhaps they should have considered the repercussions of committing THE most despicable act a single human can commit. Tell me, if you were shot, but survived, would you want to be able to speak about it, or would you want to "protect" the man who shot you by never talking about it, despite all the trauma it may have caused you?Tanner The Monotone said:If by justices you endanger the attackers lives because she's not satisfied by the results, then sure. And no, she's not acting like Gandhi. She's trying to incite violence, not avoid it.trophykiller said:Right, because there's never been an unjust law before. I personally picture what she did to be an act of civil disobedience, like that of Gandhi. In the tweet, she specifically mentions how she sees no justice in the punishment and is willing to face jail time to have her attackers exposed.Tanner The Monotone said:Victim or not, she broke the law and deserves to be punished accordingly.
Whoa whoa whoa! This kind of statement is exactly why the public should stay out of the courtroom. And I quote...trophykiller said:...She didn't ask to be drugged...
...and all signs pointed to her underage drinking in excess to be the cause.Dietrich was assaulted by the pair after passing out at a party.
So, what would telling the truth accomplish here?Mortai Gravesend said:Yes, we should hide the truth because it might hurt people, that's a great lesson.Tanner The Monotone said:If by justices you endanger the attackers lives because she's not satisfied by the results, then sure. And no, she's not acting like Gandhi. She's trying to incite violence, not avoid it.trophykiller said:Right, because there's never been an unjust law before. I personally picture what she did to be an act of civil disobedience, like that of Gandhi. In the tweet, she specifically mentions how she sees no justice in the punishment and is willing to face jail time to have her attackers exposed.Tanner The Monotone said:Victim or not, she broke the law and deserves to be punished accordingly.
If they go away I really don't care. That's if I was shot. I can't say what I would do if I was raped, but if I did break the law, I would expect to be punished for it.trophykiller said:Perhaps they should have considered the repercussions of committing THE most despicable act a single human can commit. Tell me, if you were shot, but survived, would you want to be able to speak about it, or would you want to "protect" the man who shot you by never talking about it, despite all the trauma it may have caused you?
I do agree with on this.trophykiller said:It is ironic though, how they didn't seem to care about protecting her identity, yet she's expected to care about theirs. She didn't ask to be drugged, she didn't ask to be violated, and she certainly didn't ask for salt to be poured on the proverbial wound by having the images spread around.
Though I think that it needs fixed and will never be able to be fixed, I think that's going a little far.trophykiller said:The criminal justice system in America is run by, for, and of the criminals.