Not in the Middle East.Colonel Alzheimer said:Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
In Saudi Arabia, they still have public executions. UAE residents, count yourself lucky.
Not in the Middle East.Colonel Alzheimer said:Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
You're the one who's brainwashed if you think life sucks in the UAE, top professionals all over the globe jump at the chance to work there, maybe they're all brainwashed too?DTWolfwood said:Its not like gamers there can complain about it. Shit they live there, life already sux if they haven't been brainwashed into hating the west and Israel.
Best they can hope for is someone in the family who got out and lives in a secular country who can buy them a copy to be shipped to them. Otherwise, this is a non-news.
Thanks. I wondered if that was what it was.SteelStallion said:lol, no. You can order them by mail, it's just the big "major" stores that don't have them in stock. It's more of a public appeal kind of law than anything else. "Yes we care about the Muslim populace and we respect the country's values and so the games are banned" is basically all it is, which is enough for most people that actually care.
Aversions to violence, gambling, nudity and alcohol are just part of the societal norm among the electorate of the UAE. Some of that derives from the state religion, but I'm not sure there's any reason to think that religion is behind the decision to ban this game.Colonel Alzheimer said:Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
But the generalisation [that religion is not separate from government] applies nearly as much to the West as it does to the East.ciortas1 said:Yeah well, what I meant is that, of course, there are exceptions to every imaginable generalization/stereotype, but for the most part, it is true, and it is fucking sad.
This is awesome, thanks for sharing, Baalthazaq. But if there is no banning then why did ME Gamer report that there was? What did they mean?Baalthazaq said:Erm.. I own all these games. I bought them all in virgin in Dubai in the main mall. I don't know of any shops that don't stock or order it. These are not in any way under the table deals, nor with shady companies. I don't actually understand wtf people are talking about.
I said the same thing when the news said we banned facebook, and pokemon. (There are only two ISPs, I could get on Facebook from work (Du) and home (Etisalat), thus covering ALL ISPs. I never had any interruption.)
My brother owns every Pokemon DVD and a hell of a lot of cards, and even Pokemon bedsheets when they were telling me it couldn't be bought "in the UAE".
Between me and my brother, we have every one of these except Origins. (Which admittedly I got in the UK). Do you just mean Sharjah (the UAE's version of Alabama) has banned it?
Also, as for separation of church and state, there is such a thing in Islam, it just doesn't take the Turkish or French form. Half the reason you have separation of church and state is the Islamic concept of religious rulings and secular rulings being separate which you looked at when the middle east was teaching you medicine, chemistry, philosophy and algebra (Wiki Islamic Golden age). This developed into your modern concept of separation of church and state.
Depends on what your definition of religion entails. The official religion of the PRC is the state. Dunno about the other two, I never cared for EU history and I don't know much about turkey. Gonna look it up right this second.Tiamat666 said:Actually, some of the countries with the strictest secularism are France, China and Turkey - an islamic country.oranger said:You'd have to look veeery hard, anywhere, for that. Switzerland maybe?Colonel Alzheimer said:Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
Oh, someone beat me to it.
Work there is great i agree, shit i would love to work there too. They have some serious money to throw around. For tourist traps like Dubai its probably great to live there too, assuming you can afford it. The UAE is quite the secular nation from all outwards appearances and they are courting the western nations because they have the foresight to see that oil wealth will not sustain them forever.SimpleReally said:You're the one who's brainwashed if you think life sucks in the UAE, top professionals all over the globe jump at the chance to work there, maybe they're all brainwashed too?DTWolfwood said:Its not like gamers there can complain about it. Shit they live there, life already sux if they haven't been brainwashed into hating the west and Israel.
Best they can hope for is someone in the family who got out and lives in a secular country who can buy them a copy to be shipped to them. Otherwise, this is a non-news.
I actually don't know. I *know* the Pokemon thing was Sharjah. I know Origins was actually banned countrywide (Messiah was censored if anyone remembers that game, but even that was available).Greg Tito said:This is awesome, thanks for sharing, Baalthazaq. But if there is no banning then why did ME Gamer report that there was? What did they mean?Baalthazaq said:Snip
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