Ah, well that would make sense if that server was seized. That is incredibly justifiable. But not the whole bloody thing...henritje said:ONE server (not even a big one) was based in the US (I think somewhere near the east coast).Robert Ewing said:Megaupload is based in Hong Kong.
Most of it's founders are from New Zealand are they not? In fact, that is irrelevant, most have no affiliation with the US. (Not sure if that is right, but I might of heard that somewhere.)
So Why? Why are the feds taking it down? WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
So the CEO of (allegedly) one of the biggest facilitators of online piracy is also a legitimate music producer?Grey Carter said:Megaupload's CEO, who is none other than multi-million selling hip-hop producer Swizz Beatz. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3fjGvRX5cg] Yes, that Swizz Beatz. The one married to Alicia Keys./
copyright laws have draconian punishments on them.Robert Ewing said:Ah, well that would make sense if that server was seized. That is incredibly justifiable. But not the whole bloody thing...henritje said:ONE server (not even a big one) was based in the US (I think somewhere near the east coast).Robert Ewing said:Megaupload is based in Hong Kong.
Most of it's founders are from New Zealand are they not? In fact, that is irrelevant, most have no affiliation with the US. (Not sure if that is right, but I might of heard that somewhere.)
So Why? Why are the feds taking it down? WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Except that the money laundering is an utterly bogus claim that hinges entirely on the fallacious claim that if alleged infringers make use of the premium service, the premium service was intentionally created for laundering money in co-operation with the infringers.Awexsome said:So long as they aren't charged with the stuff Megaupload was, yes.
The thing that Mega did to itself was promoting and benefiting off the piracy. The charges aren't just for copyright infringement but money laundering, conspiracy, and racketeering.
Who's to say I'd allow the next time, if it had a little less evidence? My basis on whether a branch needs cutting is based entirely upon observing whether it has gone bad. If it looks mostly healthy than why would I even bother?Orekoya said:And since you accept that then next time those doing the cutting need only alittle less evidence for support of their tree cutting than they had this time because they've already seen you accept the action. Then next time alittle less, then next just alittle, then next time none because it's happening all the time anyways. Enjoy your barren field.maninahat said:In some cases, I think that wide-spread, clear cutting is required.
There is a VERY large risk that the IP address you have is used for phishing. I would highly recommend taking it down until the IP address is vetted.Grey Carter said:[UPDATE] Feds Take Down Megaupload
Popular file-sharing website, Megaupload, has been shut down by the federal authorities. Oh, and it turns out its CEO is a music producer. Quite a famous one.
Before we get to the good part, here's the skinny on the takedown. The indictment, which was just unsealed today, accuses Megaupload of breaking anti-piracy laws and claims its pirate-enabling ways have cost copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue. According to reports, charges have been laid against seven Megaupload employees - four of which are already in custody in New Zealand. The Department of Justice reckons this is "among the largest criminal copyright cases ever brought by the United States," and listed the coming charges as "racketeering conspiracy, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, conspiring to commit money laundering and two substantive counts of criminal copyright infringement."
Megaupload's side projects, Megavideo, Megapix, Megabox, and yes, even Megaporn have all been taken down as well.
Now, you might recall that Megaupload was having some legal troubles with universal over a bizzare hip-hop video praising the Megupload service. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114751-Megaupload-Suing-Universal-Over-Pulled-YouTube-Video] Now the video makes a bit more sense as it turns out it was produced by Megaupload's CEO, who is none other than multi-million selling hip-hop producer Swizz Beatz. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3fjGvRX5cg] Yes, that Swizz Beatz. The one married to Alicia Keys.
Beatz wasn't named in the indictment, and he's yet to comment on the situation, but Megaupload has released the following statement:
Update: While the Megaupload domain has been seized, you can access the site, or a facsimile thereof, via this IP address."The fact is that the vast majority of Mega's Internet traffic is legitimate, and we are here to stay. If the content industry would like to take advantage of our popularity, we are happy to enter into a dialogue. We have some good ideas. Please get in touch."
Source: Venture Beat [http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/19/megaupload-shut-down-swiss-beatz-ceo-fbi-piracy/]
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I am glad you are logical and rational, now please tell me what exactly makes you think our government functions off such. And yes, that was a slippery slope argument, and it's what the government runs off from; they call it precedence. And next time with such they just need to cite this case and point out how their current case is enough like it to warrant their actions. And typically when setting one up they go for an overabundance of evidence.maninahat said:Who's to say I'd allow the next time, if it had a little less evidence? My basis on whether a branch needs cutting is based entirely upon observing whether it has gone bad. If it looks mostly healthy than why would I even bother?
That's problem with slippery slope arguments; it just assumes that no one would notice the fact that things are getting worse, step by step. Using the same argument, Santorum claimed that allowing gay sex would eventually lead to the permitting of man-on-dog sex. Santorum seems to think that one change will inevitably open the flood gates.
Today, I brushed my teeth. Next I'll be brushing my tongue. Before you know it, I'll be brushing my eyeballs.
The slippery slope technique may help Santorum win lots of support, but I am yet to see the government legalising man on dog action like he claimed. Slippery slopes, thank goodness, tend to be cheap rhetoric rather than a properly thought out prediction.Orekoya said:I am glad you are logical and rational, now please tell me what exactly makes you think our government functions off such. And yes, that was a slippery slope argument, and it's what the government runs off from; they call it precedence. And next time with such they just need to cite this case and point out how their current case is enough like it to warrant their actions. And typically when setting one up they go for an overabundance of evidence.maninahat said:Who's to say I'd allow the next time, if it had a little less evidence? My basis on whether a branch needs cutting is based entirely upon observing whether it has gone bad. If it looks mostly healthy than why would I even bother?
That's problem with slippery slope arguments; it just assumes that no one would notice the fact that things are getting worse, step by step. Using the same argument, Santorum claimed that allowing gay sex would eventually lead to the permitting of man-on-dog sex. Santorum seems to think that one change will inevitably open the flood gates.
Today, I brushed my teeth. Next I'll be brushing my tongue. Before you know it, I'll be brushing my eyeballs.
And as for Santorum, well, he's been in his office since 1995 and is currently running for presidency. Are you going to tell me that slippery slope arguments aren't working in his favor politically?
its spiraled out of control now. Every DDL file sharing site is running scared. Can't DDL anything anymore. Guess this is gonna be a new boon for Torrentstony2077 said:torrents are good for some things but when its illegal its illegal so can't defend that part of themDTWolfwood said:dammit to hell! they are the only ones that gives me my full 6.25MB/s download speed! >.< also have like 3-5 months of my premium sub left!
man this blows gonna have to use torrents to dl anime again?! bah!
Uhh, is it just me, or does clicking that redirection link set off ALL MY VIRUS SENSORS?!Grey Carter said:Update: While the Megaupload domain has been seized, you can access the site, or a facsimile thereof, via this IP address. [http://109.236.83.66/]
Why was MegaUpload really shut down?
BY Shauna Myers
(UPDATE: Forbes covered this story a day after this was posted. Awesome guys! (http://goo.gl/KnsW7) )
In December of 2011, just weeks before the takedown, Digital Music News reported on something new that the creators of #Megaupload were about to unroll. Something that would rock the music industry to its core. (http://goo.gl/A7wUZ)
I present to you... MegaBox. MegaBox was going to be an alternative music store that was entirely cloud-based and offered artists a better money-making opportunity than they would get with any record label.
"UMG knows that we are going to compete with them via our own music venture called Megabox.com, a site that will soon allow artists to sell their creations directly to consumers while allowing artists to keep 90 percent of earnings," MegaUpload founder Kim 'Dotcom' Schmitz told Torrentfreak
Not only did they plan on allowing artists to keep 90% of their earnings on songs that they sold, they wanted to pay them for songs they let users download for free.
"We have a solution called the Megakey that will allow artists to earn income from users who download music for free," Dotcom outlined. "Yes that's right, we will pay artists even for free downloads. The Megakey business model has been tested with over a million users and it works."
So the implication being made, is that the FBI might have closed down MegaUpload because MegaUpload were planning to release an unrelated free radio business that might compete with the music industry. I think it is a stretch. There is an assumption that:JoaoJatoba said:Why was MegaUpload really shut down?
BY Shauna Myers
(UPDATE: Forbes covered this story a day after this was posted. Awesome guys! (http://goo.gl/KnsW7) )
In December of 2011, just weeks before the takedown, Digital Music News reported on something new that the creators of #Megaupload were about to unroll. Something that would rock the music industry to its core. (http://goo.gl/A7wUZ)
I present to you... MegaBox. MegaBox was going to be an alternative music store that was entirely cloud-based and offered artists a better money-making opportunity than they would get with any record label.
"UMG knows that we are going to compete with them via our own music venture called Megabox.com, a site that will soon allow artists to sell their creations directly to consumers while allowing artists to keep 90 percent of earnings," MegaUpload founder Kim 'Dotcom' Schmitz told Torrentfreak
Not only did they plan on allowing artists to keep 90% of their earnings on songs that they sold, they wanted to pay them for songs they let users download for free.
"We have a solution called the Megakey that will allow artists to earn income from users who download music for free," Dotcom outlined. "Yes that's right, we will pay artists even for free downloads. The Megakey business model has been tested with over a million users and it works."