[UPDATE] Players Banned for Breakdancing in Star Wars: The Old Republic
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Why yes it is!fanklok said:Completely unrelated to the news but is your avatar from Darker then Black?Fappy said:Are these perma-bans?
And uhhh didn't you guys know that the stuffy parents from Dirty Dancing are in charge of TOR? Totally explains everything.
Are you seriously this dense?VladG said:
The entire part of this story about anyone being banned comes from a FAKED EMAIL.
Go ahead - read the original story on Joystiq:
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/04/breakdancing-breaks-swtor-enemies-spirits/
Hell I'll even break it down for you so you can understand it
ORIGINAL STORY: There is a bug in SWTOR that can make you invincible by using dance emotes.
UPDATE 1: People are being banned for using the exploit
UPDATE 2: UPDATE 1 was based on a fake email.
And if that's not enough for you , here's a BioWare rep stating on their own official forums that no one is being banned for this:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=129846&page=2
Why put dancing in a game like this to begin with?
That said, if they're that pissed about it, just disable the command in the battlefield maps. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
That said, if they're that pissed about it, just disable the command in the battlefield maps. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I don't think it's fanatical hatred so much as that their actual behavior has been so far out there stuff like this passes a scratch and sniff test for "is this plausible". Remember the emails for people being banned from the flipping exploit was written so it sounded like all the player had done was gone into a high level zone, looted a container or two and bam, banned.Canadish said:
Combine that with some pretty shoddy customer service after the launch, the people reporting they're being threatened with bans for private conversations, and saying "we'll ban you for using this exploit" is actually pretty damn plausible.
The hatred for the devs is something wholly unrelated.
First EA accidentally forgets to give a code for the first month and then says they'll give you the free month when you buy a month. And now they're punishing players for playing the game.
I really hate EA and their abuse. The whole point of a video game is to figure out what works best within the given system and use it to your advantage. They shouldn't be allowed to retroactively say "oops....well we don't want you to do that." --> BAN
Now having said that. They should ban people for using it in any game that is PvP. If its just against the game world then no one should get banned because no one has an unfair advantage over other players. Every one can do it.
I really hate EA and their abuse. The whole point of a video game is to figure out what works best within the given system and use it to your advantage. They shouldn't be allowed to retroactively say "oops....well we don't want you to do that." --> BAN
Now having said that. They should ban people for using it in any game that is PvP. If its just against the game world then no one should get banned because no one has an unfair advantage over other players. Every one can do it.
We can dance if we want to
We can leave Bioware behind
'Cause Bioware don't dance, and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
S-s-s-s A-a-a-a F-f-f-f E-e-e-e T-t-t-t Y-y-y-y
Just my two cents. ; )
We can leave Bioware behind
'Cause Bioware don't dance, and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
S-s-s-s A-a-a-a F-f-f-f E-e-e-e T-t-t-t Y-y-y-y
Just my two cents. ; )
I know the story turned out to be fake, but this is a story where a company stops paying customers from playing their game for a trivial reason. That kind of action can understandably scare potential consumers.Nimcha said:
Because the ability to dance is intentionally coded into the game.Amnestic said:
Imagine a similar scenario: A bug is introduced into a combat based MMO that makes it so textchatting while in combat grants you 10 seconds immortality (as in, you can't lose life for 10 seconds after you send a chat message).
On the surface, you could say that people who does this are intentionally abusing the game. On the other hand, however, you can't reasonably expect players to abandon communication at any point in an MMO.
The solution? Stop blaming players for you screwing up, take some responsibility and fix your system as fast as possible.
I think a suspention ban is pretty fair when people knowingly abuse something that's clearly bugged. You'd think they would have noticed and fixed this in the beta, but still.
Damn the exploiters.
Damn the exploiters.
Non sequitur. The Javelin exploit hurt other players. TOR, as far as the article says, only affects NPCs.Amnestic said:
Additionally, no, I don't think that people should have been punished for the Javelin exploit, because it's IW's fault. The solution would be to cut the weapon from the game (they would absolutely be able to, if not disable the option of picking the Javelin, lower the firepower of the weapon to zero) or similar until the exploit is fixed. Same with dancing. Punishing others is just a sign of being an assholish company.
Hmmm, well honestly I think EA is getting a bit excessive with some of their bans. Namely because they are banning for the wrong kinds of things, and also their bans are apparently cutting people off from the wrong kinds of content.
Apparently EA had some players auto-banned due to tripping an algorithim intended to target gold/credit farmers by them opening too many security chests... apparently the players in question went to Illum (40+ planet) on PVE servers and entered PVP zones without other players and no mobs and collected chests that spawned there despite the potential risks of getting ganked if someone happened by and made enough money at low levels from chests to have the system auto-ban them. At least that's my understanding of it.
There are plenty of reasons to get banned, but really I tend to think there needs to be some human oversight, and also some middle ground established. Honestly I think one of the issues with MMOs has been not wanting to give GMs the abillity to edit characters in a direct fashion. In the case of the credits which was a bit of an exploit, I would think removing all of the money on the account from all the characters the player had would be sufficient as a punitive measure without banning the player permanantly. Likewise guys exploiting the power of dance could be docked levels or whatever. I mean dropping someone 10 levels which probably means they have to grind back up without quests and find gear they can use since they probably long since sold and replaced their lower level gear is harsh without perma-banning.
I mean think like a vengeful GM in a PnP game... that's how I think GMs in MMOs should be acting in many cases.
That said, for the sake of history this is not the first time dance has been banned in an MMO... even if the reason was differant, never forget what happened in Tyra's Virtual Studio.
Yes... Tyra Banks had her own MMO (seriously), no idea if it still runs, but well... here is what the Goons did there:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/mmo-roulette/tyrastudio.php
So hmmm, I think this means EA is continueing a proud tradition of banning break dancing after implementing it.
Apparently EA had some players auto-banned due to tripping an algorithim intended to target gold/credit farmers by them opening too many security chests... apparently the players in question went to Illum (40+ planet) on PVE servers and entered PVP zones without other players and no mobs and collected chests that spawned there despite the potential risks of getting ganked if someone happened by and made enough money at low levels from chests to have the system auto-ban them. At least that's my understanding of it.
There are plenty of reasons to get banned, but really I tend to think there needs to be some human oversight, and also some middle ground established. Honestly I think one of the issues with MMOs has been not wanting to give GMs the abillity to edit characters in a direct fashion. In the case of the credits which was a bit of an exploit, I would think removing all of the money on the account from all the characters the player had would be sufficient as a punitive measure without banning the player permanantly. Likewise guys exploiting the power of dance could be docked levels or whatever. I mean dropping someone 10 levels which probably means they have to grind back up without quests and find gear they can use since they probably long since sold and replaced their lower level gear is harsh without perma-banning.
I mean think like a vengeful GM in a PnP game... that's how I think GMs in MMOs should be acting in many cases.
That said, for the sake of history this is not the first time dance has been banned in an MMO... even if the reason was differant, never forget what happened in Tyra's Virtual Studio.
Yes... Tyra Banks had her own MMO (seriously), no idea if it still runs, but well... here is what the Goons did there:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/mmo-roulette/tyrastudio.php
So hmmm, I think this means EA is continueing a proud tradition of banning break dancing after implementing it.
