Update: Who's Leading the Console War in Europe?

mattman106

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It's true. Some companies count number of product shipped as essentially the same as number of product sold to consumer as they get paid whether it's in someones house or sitting in a Game warehouse for example.
 

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It's the old we sell more than you merrigoround. My guess is Microsoft count the warranty replacements for bricked 360's as a unit sold. So one sold, bricked then replaced equates to two in their eyes.

Whilst Sony count all the ones they've shipped as units sold, meaning both brands have sold 'more' consoles.

I wonder the actual factual not marketing spun sales figures are.


HG131 said:
Here's how the console war will end for this generation in the eyes of gamers (not the casual idiots)
PC-larger market than Xbox and Playstation Brands combined, but too fragmented to brag about it...
360
PS3
Wii
Made a little correction there for you...
 

Cryo84R

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The PC gaming market is not nearly as large as the console market.
 

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HG131 said:
Here's how the console war will end for this generation in the eyes of gamers (not the casual idiots)
360
PS3
PC
Wii

The reason?

360 - Came out first, and has the best games for the lowest console price.
PS3 - Second Best games, overpriced console and were asses to the customer.
PC - Niche market.
Wii - The start of the end of gaming
Nah, see this is where your wrong.

It Will be
Ps3
360
Wii

Reason?
Ps3 - will be on the market for 10+ years, they released 1 year after 360, but each year, they sell the same number of units, as the 360 1 year ago. Thus, in the 10+ year product life cycle the PS3 Will eventually close the gap, by running longer.

360 - Microsoft will probably announce a new xbox next year. Then about a year or 2 later, the new Xbox will be released, and all the 360's will be discontinued. Thus allowing the Ps3 to close theg ap.

Wii - Who cares about this guy? Its soooooo last generation anyways, why are we even putting it in with this generation? What is this a sega genesis? Its already reached market saturation!

I didn't include the PC, because the PC isn't a console. If I did include it on this list, it would be #1. Cause through thick or thin, the PC has remained longer then any of the other consoles. ;)
 

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Cryo84R said:
The PC gaming market is not nearly as large as the console market.
TBH thats only true for the english speaking countrys like USA and UK the rest of europe (especially Germany) and most of Asia, PC is really the dominant platform.
 

Spudgun Man

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Maybe Mr Chris Lewis is making up excuses so Bill Gates doesn't lock him in the naughty cuboard.
 

KDR_11k

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Who's leading? Obviously the Wii. Let's not forget that whether MS or Sony beats the other they're still far behind the Wii.

HG131 said:
Here's how the console war will end for this generation in the eyes of gamers (not the casual idiots)
360
PS3
PC
Wii

The reason?

360 - Came out first, and has the best games for the lowest console price.
PS3 - Second Best games, overpriced console and were asses to the customer.
PC - Niche market.
Wii - The start of the end of gaming
I've got an article for you. [http://malstrom.50webs.com/modestproposal.html]
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
wow talk about drinking the corporate kool-aid
Ok, first off: the dollar sign? That isn't a letter.

Also, your constant references to "corporate kool-aid" are starting to sound vaguely trollish. This dude is an employee of the company, probably a PR guy: it's his job to spin the facts in favor of his side. Just like Sony's and Nintendo's PR guys do. It's a universal practice.

The update to the story would seem to suggest that Sony isn't even counting the same way Microsoft is, so there's no real way to determine who is "winning" until the companies release the numbers for specific regions, under specific criteria.

EDIT: Whoops, said the same thing twice by accident. Fixed.
 

Megacherv

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Ooh, it has a lead, who gives a shit (except for the companies)? It doesn't make a console better, it just means that more people buy it. Just because a console is selling less doesn't make it worse, and it's the same no matter who's in the lead
 

Clyde

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The funniest thing about this is both lose money on every sale.
PS3 and XBOX have bad business models.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
SCEE pools its population from Europe, Australiasia and other...
Wait a minute. Australiasia?! What sort of sinister alliance is this?!!!
 

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scotth266 said:
cleverlymadeup said:
wow talk about drinking the corporate kool-aid
Ok, first off: the dollar sign? That isn't a letter.

Also, your constant references to "corporate kool-aid" are starting to sound vaguely trollish. This dude is an employee of the company, probably a PR guy: it's his job to spin the facts in favor of his side. Just like Sony's and Nintendo's PR guys do. It's a universal practice.
maybe because that's the saying, why not look up what "drinking the kool-aid" means, it is not trollish and frankly very fitting in this instance, even with the update

as for calling the m$ with the dollar sign it's well deserved since they really care more about their money than the customer, especially when execs recently came out and said the equivalent of "if you wanted a working xbox buy a new one cause they old ones are really messed up"

The update to the story would seem to suggest that Sony isn't even counting the same way Microsoft is, so there's no real way to determine who is "winning" until the companies release the numbers for specific regions, under specific criteria.

EDIT: Whoops, said the same thing twice by accident. Fixed.
still even with the update that's a 2 million discrepancy, which i find kinda hard to swallow. even with taking out Australia, you wouldn't lose all that many especially not enough to cover 2 million. they also aren't saying specially where things are being pooled from cause i do believe asia is covered twice in there
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
scotth266 said:
cleverlymadeup said:
wow talk about drinking the corporate kool-aid
Ok, first off: the dollar sign? That isn't a letter.

Also, your constant references to "corporate kool-aid" are starting to sound vaguely trollish. This dude is an employee of the company, probably a PR guy: it's his job to spin the facts in favor of his side. Just like Sony's and Nintendo's PR guys do. It's a universal practice.
maybe because that's the saying, why not look up what "drinking the kool-aid" means, it is not trollish and frankly very fitting in this instance, even with the update

as for calling the m$ with the dollar sign it's well deserved since they really care more about their money than the customer, especially when execs recently came out and said the equivalent of "if you wanted a working xbox buy a new one cause they old ones are really messed up"

The update to the story would seem to suggest that Sony isn't even counting the same way Microsoft is, so there's no real way to determine who is "winning" until the companies release the numbers for specific regions, under specific criteria.

EDIT: Whoops, said the same thing twice by accident. Fixed.
still even with the update that's a 2 million discrepancy, which i find kinda hard to swallow. even with taking out Australia, you wouldn't lose all that many especially not enough to cover 2 million. they also aren't saying specially where things are being pooled from cause i do believe asia is covered twice in there
So you're saying that microsoft cares more about money than the customer but PS3 loves every customer and wants to give them big hugs. You also claim that the discrepencies couldn't be that large because you said so...Fanboy.
 

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Well speaking as a European Gamer (Malta specifically) Most of the gamers I know prefer the Xbox360 to the PS3, But most of the game stores have contracts with Sony and outright refuse to sell 360 hardware, which has gained them quite alot of ire from the local community. Most people just buy all their gear from the internet because the pricing here is ridiculous.
 

Cryo84R

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So Sony counts more countries as "Europe" thus making it the leader in Europe?
 

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hypothetical fact said:
So you're saying that microsoft cares more about money than the customer but PS3 loves every customer and wants to give them big hugs. You also claim that the discrepencies couldn't be that large because you said so...Fanboy.
i never said that but m$ has demonstrated many times over the years they'd rather release a product, no matter how well it works just so they can get people's money.

Sony at least tries to get things working probly, hence why the PS3 got delayed when they released it.

also i'm not a fanboy, i just happen to have a realistic view on things. also why not prove my educated guess wrong, instead you'll just say i'm being a fanboy instead of actually putting some effort into it

the fact is that Australia has about 21 million people, to say there is 2 million plus PS3's there is stretching it a bit too far, even combining with the whole Australiasia you'd be hard pressed to get it to 2 million considering the rampant poverty in that region, excluding Australia