Using a Debit Card with Paypal for games on Steam. It is safe.

SweetShark

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Sooooooooo.......For my first time in my life I decided to pay a digital game through Steam and later to buy the Text Adventure Cypher http://www.cabrerabrothers.com/.

I have a Debit Card to my Paypal account. How much safe is to use this kind of card in Steam and not a Credit Card?

Thank you for your help!!!
 

Xan Krieger

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I use mine all the time and never had a problem. Paypal is very trustworthy, I use it and so does my boss.
 

Eri

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People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
 

Hazy992

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I've bought all my Steam games using a debit card through Paypal and I've never had a problem with it.
 

SweetShark

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Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
 

Spaghetti

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SweetShark said:
Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
There are greater consumer protections put on purchases made by a Credit Card than a Debit Card (in the UK at least).
Though in terms of security (again, I can only speak for the UK) a debit and credit card are pretty much interchangeable.

As for PayPal, I've used it quite a bit over the past few years and I've never had a problem with it.
 

Dangit2019

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SweetShark said:
Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
They might have been talking about the threat of overdrafts. As long as you make sure you have the money and that you won't be paying more than you have, there's absolutely no problem.
 

teqrevisited

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I use mine on there all the time. Never had a problem with it. As long as you watch your statements each month or check regularly online you'll never be caught unaware by any dodgy activities.
 

Eri

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SweetShark said:
Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
Because people are dumb. It's not magically "safer" than debit. There's security pros and cons for both.
 

unoleian

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Debit cards are getting more secure. Doing a transaction in UK from US on my card triggered a fraud alert call from my carrier the other day, so they're getting better protections, depending on who handles the transaction.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Do pretty much all my steam purchases through paypal with a debit card, never had a problem with it. I prefer it to having my steam client have my details saved on it or typing in all the info everytime I want to make a purchase.
 

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Spaghetti said:
SweetShark said:
Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
There are greater consumer protections put on purchases made by a Credit Card than a Debit Card (in the UK at least).
Though in terms of security (again, I can only speak for the UK) a debit and credit card are pretty much interchangeable.

As for PayPal, I've used it quite a bit over the past few years and I've never had a problem with it.
This; When you purchase something on debit your pretty much screwed if the charge an inappropriate amount. With a credit card you have protection from that.
However since you used paypal you get the same protection you would have if you use credit (On Steam's side atleast; between your bank and Paypal not so much but those two arn't likely to screw yoo)
 

DoPo

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SweetShark said:
Eri said:
People seem to think there is some magical difference between a debit and credit card. There is not. They function the same way as far as the place you buy stuff is concerned.
Then why the most people say that a credit card is even more safer than a debit card?
I have no idea why people would be saying this. Essentially, the payment portal should function exactly the same way. Well, the only thing I can think of, is that the bank may monitor credit card spendings better. It makes sense, since there is only a limited amount of damage a stolen debit card can do, unlike credit, where you don't need to have the money in the first place. Still, though, if that's the case, then it's still not safer at the time of purchasing something. Protection will kick in if somebody tries to use your debit card details.
 

Dusty Donuts

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Nah, I've never trusted using a debit card of steam.
I've paid with cash since I joined in 2009.
OT: Paypal has like, a 45 day transaction reversal if you submit a good enough case, since my brother almost got scammed and he had to reverse it.
Although it's not entirely foolproof no matter which way you slice it, as with every time anything is put on the interwebs. [http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/881427-credit-card-details-confirmed-stolen-from-steam]
[sub]Yes, I know it's from 2011[/sub]
 

Evil Smurf

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I have never had a problem with debit card + PayPal. Take that how you want to.
 

taciturnCandid

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Twice paypal has withdrawn money out of my account when I haven't had any money in my bank and gave me overdraft fees. Then paypal did nothing to correct this error and if it wasn't for negotiation with the bank, I would have been stuck with the fees.
 

chimeracreator

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Credit cards are almost always safer than debit cards as they provide a layer of protection between your bank balance and a potentially malicious actor or badly designed web portal that overcharges you. Assuming your payment information is stolen this what ends up happening for both:

Credit Card:
1. You notice an anomalous payment or your credit card provider does.
2. You contact them or they contact you, the card is closed and the payments are invested and temporarily reversed removing them from your monthly bill.
3. A new card is issued to you which you typically receive within 3 days.
4. If a charge is found to be legitimate it is passed back onto you and you might get in trouble for fraud.

As credit cards are paid once per month during this time no money is moved out of your bank account and it is instead applied against your credit limit, which you should pay off fully each month to avoid interest.

Debit Card:
1. You notice an anomalous payment or your bank does.
2. You contact them or they contact you, the card is closed and the payments are invested.
3. A new card is issued to you which you typically receive within 3 days.
4. If a charge is found to be illegitimate the money is put back into your account. This can take several weeks.
5. If the payment or payments exceeded your balance you will be charged overdraft fees.


So let's walk through a hypothetical situation with Bill who has $1,000 in the bank, a credit card with a limit of $1,000 and a debit card. What's happen when it gets stolen when he gets a pizza worth $5 for each.

Credit Card:
1. Pizza is purchased, ($995)
2. Card information is stolen by a skimmer
3. Thief uses card to pay for a $5 pizza to verify the information is valid ($990)
4. Thief attempts to buy ten $100 iTunes gift cards. This exceeds the available limit so he instead gets 9 of them ($95)
5. The thief manages to get away with it somehow but this triggers the credit card company to look at the transaction, freeze the account and contact the owner.
6. The card is cancelled, a new card is sent out and the credit card company works with law enforcement to verify that it was theft and to catch the thieves.
6a. The obvious charges are removed from the associated account restoring the amount of available credit to $990 (within a day or so)
7. The less obvious $5 charge is also removed (within a week or so). If this resulted in paying too much on the previous bill the amount that was overpaid is credited to the account.


Debit Card:
1. Pizza is purchased, ($995)
2. Card information is stolen by a skimmer
3. Thief uses card to pay for a $5 pizza to verify the information is valid ($990)
4. Thief attempts to buy ten $100 iTunes gift cards. This causes an overdraft with all of the associated fees and penalties ($-10)
5. When attempting to check his account Bill finds out he has no money in it and calls the bank in a panic.
6. The card is cancelled, a new card is sent out and the bank works with law enforcement to verify that it was theft and to catch the thieves.
7. The charges that can be shown as fraudulent are cancelled and money is put back into the account. Some banks will forgive overdraft fees, while others tend not to. (within a week or two)
 

Dangit2019

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Dusty Donuts said:
Nah, I've never trusted using a debit card of steam.
I've paid with cash since I joined in 2009.
How did you pay cash for steam before they introduced gift cards?