A-fucking-mazing. I still can't believe Turbine didn't win. Maybe there's hope for this contest yet! (Nah, not really. Please don't do this anymore next year.)
Valve Becomes the New March Mayhem: Developer's Showdown Champion
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See you in a few hours... [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife]JWW said:
I love both devs, but I've had more fun with Valve, although Bioware is still the best in the industry at building convincing and interesting characters, although in ME2, I found that I'd rather have had three or four ones with very deep backstories than the (I think it was) 9 or so we got, each with a little mission telling us a snippet of their tale.
You are likely immune to anything I could actually post. Except this... [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife]TheNumber1Zero said:
Congrats to both, but double congrats to Valve for winning.
Although with it being so very close, it probably should have been called a draw.
Although with it being so very close, it probably should have been called a draw.
I voted for Bioware, but i'm glad Valve won, there is a large bright side to this 'un. And that is that Zynga didn't win, thank god! Anyway: Woop! Valve Rule! *end fanboyism*
Valve: Give me better customer support and some more interesting games, and I'll agree you deserve the victory. Half Life is garbage in my opinion, and both your AI Director and Physics engine are starting to show their age. Kick it up a notch guys, I think you got away with the victory out of sheer luck and blind devotion.
Bioware: Take time when you're making your games for assured quality, be sure to keep doing what you guys do best, and you'll do fine. But please please PLEASE start (extensively) bug-testing your games and patches before you release them. It's getting problematic.
Bioware: Take time when you're making your games for assured quality, be sure to keep doing what you guys do best, and you'll do fine. But please please PLEASE start (extensively) bug-testing your games and patches before you release them. It's getting problematic.
I dont think its the same game at all. I mean i cant really find one point thats exactly the same apart from the graphics looking a bit alike. So either you have probably been playing it for two minutes at a friend or only tried one of the two because you dont wanna waste money (Not no waste btw even though i havent gotten the first Mass Effect) When it comes to being best to its modding community having a good costumer support and making steam Valve probably goes off with the prize. But compelling storytelling and well made characters have always been Bioware products selling point. Comparing a FantasyRPG with an FPS that has a storyline to it isnt really that easy at all.Ultratwinkie said:
I chose Valve because of the fact that while you dont see a new game every year. You see a new patch for all their games at least every month, and have a very wellworking support system (Even though some of the answers are a bit dumb)
Main turnoff from newer Bioware games are their constant massive bugs which sometimes make them unplayable it includes gameplay as well as textures. I remember a time when they actually tested their games before releasing them. SOME people who buy singleplayer games dont have any internets.
I suppose you could simplify any story down to it's basics and claim it to be the same.Ultratwinkie said:
Hero rises up to overcome a big bad, encountering obstacles and conflict (personal and environmental) along the way.
That would sum up the majority of storylines from all kinds of media. It doesn't mean every story is the same though.
For instance, in Dragon Age you have the option to pick from a range of origins, thus changing the initial plot right off the bat. You can start off as a noble who is betrayed and loses their family, or there's the dwarf commoner who's hard on their luck and looking for a way out of that existence. Mass Effect 2... you start off a hero from the previous game, leading your crew in a routine patrol in space. Not really seeing the similarities there.
I've noticed the trend on this forum where some people like to strip a complex issue down to its bare bones to validate a claim they make. But that complexity helps make it what it is (in this case, an immense and compelling story). In a previous discussion, someone was trying to claim that, for example, a big RPG (like Mass Effect) and a Zynga game were the same, because you click to make choices. While it's technically true, that doesn't mean the padding around that should be removed from the comparison.
I'm very, very pleased it was as close as it was. As much as I was pulling for BioWare, I think we all won in that last round.
'Grats all around!
'Grats all around!
It's a bigger achievement that Valve took down the scammers at Zynga who never should have taken part anyway. It could have been at least half respectable then.