Was it prudent of Jennifer Lawrence to take pictures of herself nude in the first place? Y/N?

Timmaaaah

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It wasn't prudent. I mean come on, she's a celebrity. If naked pictures of her exist, people are going to want them. I don't know why she took them in the first place. I know I am never going to take nudes of myself... It all ends up on the internet eventually.
Still, it's a bit shitty that her privacy was violated though I don't actually know what her reaction to the leak was.
 

Malpraxis

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No, it wasn't prudent at all.
She has a right to do so, but it's not a wise idea when you know thousands of people will want to see them, and no online storage is secure.

Heck, I don't take nudes of myself and I'm a hairy dude and nobody besides a couple of weird people would be interested in looking at them. I know that they may come back to bite me in the ass down the line.
It is not fair at all. But life isn't fair.
 

vIRL Nightmare

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First, it sucks to have this happen to anyone. I certainly understand why she (but lets not forget all the others this happened to and how little they care in comparison)would be distraught over this. Second I feel like I shouldn't have to tell grown adults to not take fucking naked pictures of themselves. That should be common fucking sense.

No I don't feel bad for anyone in this situation. If I went around taking naked photos of my self and somebody spread that shit over the internet I could lose all credibility as an engineer over something stupid. Stupid, yeah that is a good word for this situation. Stupid for taking the pictures, and stupid that everyone is making a huge deal over this.

Seriously the sooner they stop making a big deal about the whole situation the sooner it disappears into the aether to be forgotten or remembered as one of the hundreds of celebrities that had some uncomfortable exposure. This isn't the first time this has happened and no one has ever cared so much about it until now.

Any of the actors that had their dirty laundry spread across the field needs to lift their chins stop feeling sorry for themselves and remind themselves that A) it is in fact as much their fault for taking FUCKING NUDE PHOTOS as it is the fault of the creeps that found and spread them, and B) This whole scandal is actually going to end up helping their careers, a thing most people cant say. The sooner everyone stops making it out to be the most hateful hate crime of the century and move on, the sooner no one will care. We have famous individuals commit actual horrible things and get away with it all the time so somebody seeing your jingle jangles or your lady bits really isn't that tragic a thing, especially in a society so saturated with new media each day that it's going to be forgotten quite quickly unless they decide to keep bring the situation up.

Maybe I'm being unfair but god damn it why would anyone think taking nude photos of yourself is a good idea? I don't care if it is a smart phone, a 90s kodak, or an old timey camera. It's a bad idea and no one should have to tell anyone that. What causes such a lapse in judgement for anyone, especially a famous individual to think oh I'm going to make some naked pictures of myself even though I never want it to come to the light of day. Also we live in a society were the human body is slowly but surely becoming less an obscene thing, we have movie's like watchment with floppy blue dicks floating around and honestly few people cared that much. The whole situation isn't any special deal at all and will be out of sight and mine in a couple weeks unless we keep hearing these news stories about how the FBI is having time and resources spent on finding a pervert somewhere because someone with a lot of money had their feelings hurt.

I just, I can't even comprehend the train og thought, the logic in thinking, "Hm I'm hugely famous and not a fucking pornstar so I'm just going to take some naked pictures of myself with a device that has internet access after nary a few months ago most news sites were plastered with things like heart-bleed and how not secure anything was. If they wanted the nude images as a form of art then they should have no need to be hurt or offended to this degree, if the photos were made for any reason other than art then I just can't understand why anyone would think this was a good idea.

In consideration of these people I personally didn't take the time to look at any of the photos that I'm sure isn't anything special. However I damn near had an aneurysm from the stupidity of it all when for almost a week now all I've heard is how the poor victims have been bullied by the evil internet creepers when hypocritically when the major news media can spill this shit it's a delicious story. Seriously who here remembers the Hulk Hogan video that was plastered everywhere by the news outlets? It's fucking hypocritical and stupid.
 

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Fenrox Jackson said:
otakon17 said:
I am not victim blaming here. She didn't invite this leak to happen by doing so, but I feel she did expose herself without thinking of the possible consequences. It is a simple thing not to take pictures of yourself and then send them over a network to a phone that could possibly be stolen. Especially considering she's a celebrity and in the United States there is an unhealthy obsession with them in my opinion generally. You can't do things like this as a public figure if only to avoid possibly incriminating yourself.

I close with the following points:
1. She did not invite this invasion of privacy by taking these photographs. No one(save certain situations) has the right to do this kind of thing.
2. I am not blaming her for what happened to her. The one responsible is the asshole that got a hold of them.
3. I am NOT condoning the actions of said asshole.
4. And to all those that downloaded said pictures and use "Well she shouldn't have taken them in the first place.", fuck off that's not the point of the argument to justify your invasion of a woman's privacy.

I do not condone this turn of events and do not blame her for them. I simply feel that if she should not have taken compromising pictures of herself in the first place.

EDIT: In light of EVERYONE saying I am victim blaming, I have changed the title of the topic to more accurately reflect my view on the matter.
Yes, it was prudent as we have no idea the reason as to why she did it. Nor should we be privy to that. So I think it's safe to assume that she acts with agency one can expect one to utilize in the process of actions. I also think it's safe to say that you are a troll for this trollish post. There is no possible situation that could have come from this post that would lead to this post being worthwhile in any sense of the word.
This isn't a troll post, I just think it was pretty reckless to take pictures of yourself nude, regardless of who you are and upload them from your phone to the "cloud". It's not very prudent to huff paint but people do it anyway for the high, it's not prudent to drive way faster than the speed limit but people do it to get places quicker/for the high, it's not very prudent to eat really spicy food, but do it anyway for the flavor. Point I'm making, even if you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should do it. Taking nude photos of yourself, regardless of medium, is risky as there is always the chance of someone not meant to, finding them. Putting them out digitally in any form, doubly so.

I never said she wasn't allowed to take the photos, why does everyone keep inserting that into their rebuttal?
 

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Telling someone they shouldn't have taken nudes of themselves because they were stolen make as much sense as telling someone who has had their shoes stolen that they shouldn't have owned shoes in the first place if they didn't want them stole.
 

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Rocket Girl said:
vIRL Nightmare said:
I just, I can't even comprehend the train og thought, the logic in thinking, "Hm I'm hugely famous and not a fucking pornstar so I'm just going to take some naked pictures of myself with a device that has internet access after nary a few months ago most news sites were plastered with things like heart-bleed and how not secure anything was. If they wanted the nude images as a form of art then they should have no need to be hurt or offended to this degree, if the photos were made for any reason other than art then I just can't understand why anyone would think this was a good idea.
Or, or, hear me out here - or they just wanted to be a bit sexy with themselves or a partner. Maybe, rather than type out seven paragraphs concerning what you think of the victims of a crime, you should either say nothing, condemn the criminals, or offer advice - such as, "if you have nudes, I'd take them out of the cloud to be safe."
Here's some advice. Don't do it ever for any reason through any means. It is a very poor life decision to not consider the consequences of your actions because you wanted a little sexy time when you can alternatively do so in the presence of your intended individual. There is no reason for anyone to be surprised about this. Nudes and sex videos have been a thing for a very long time, decades easily and though you are not as wrong as the creep that stole your pictures you are still in the wrong by ignorance because we like to say ignorance isn't an excuse for everything else so why be contrary to that on this specific case other than it is obvious media viewer bait.

That said I did give my input my advice if you will multiple times. That advice being don't do it and don't be so upset when you fail to consider possible consequences of your actions.
 

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The best way I can express my opinion on this matter is "Oh my god who cares."
 

TheEndlessSleep

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Clearly the person who leaked these pics is scum, but people need to stop accusing people of 'victim blaming' when they make points like this.

I don't trust the internet as far as I could throw it, and frankly, neither should anybody. I wouldn't put something this private anywhere near the net because I know that it's full of weirdos looking for exactly this kind of thing.

Obviously, nobody is planning to have their privacy invaded, and I think it's sad that we live in a world where this horrible stuff is entirely possible.

However, at the end of the day, we all know the risks (and it's naive to think you are not at risk of this stuff; no matter how safe you THINK you are etc...), and there is always a factor of personal responsibility when it comes to security of personal information.
 

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Prudent? What she does in private, or in her case anywhere, is none of my concern or care.

There is a false assumption of privacy on the internet. The internet is NEVER private, let alone the diddly cloud. Anything you put there is liable to be manipulated/removed/copied. There was NO invasion of privacy, just a breach of trust, software intrusion and copyright infringement.

She put the pictures in a sack and gave it to a guy who promised not to peek or share it with anyone else. Someone else got their grubby hands on it, made copies, and put the sack back. That's what happened in the analog world.
 

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While im against the trend of how nobody seems to be responsible for their actions, in this case they didnt do anything wrong. They didnt install a virus, they didnt share their password, they didnt post these pictures to the public or to someone else, they didnt pick a dumb password like 12345, etc.

Now if, for example, i leave my car unlocked and someone stole a bunch of items from my car, then yes im partially at fault for being a dumbass. But this case is the equivalent of locking your windows and doors at night only for a burglar to dig a tunnel into your basement and steal your stuff.

Apple is partially at fault for allowing this breach to happen, and obviously the people who stole them. although, no one should be shocked that anything that you put on the internet can be compromised, but there has to be some level of trust in these systems in order for them to work.
 

otakon17

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Fenrox Jackson said:
otakon17 said:
Fenrox Jackson said:
otakon17 said:
I am not victim blaming here. She didn't invite this leak to happen by doing so, but I feel she did expose herself without thinking of the possible consequences. It is a simple thing not to take pictures of yourself and then send them over a network to a phone that could possibly be stolen. Especially considering she's a celebrity and in the United States there is an unhealthy obsession with them in my opinion generally. You can't do things like this as a public figure if only to avoid possibly incriminating yourself.

I close with the following points:
1. She did not invite this invasion of privacy by taking these photographs. No one(save certain situations) has the right to do this kind of thing.
2. I am not blaming her for what happened to her. The one responsible is the asshole that got a hold of them.
3. I am NOT condoning the actions of said asshole.
4. And to all those that downloaded said pictures and use "Well she shouldn't have taken them in the first place.", fuck off that's not the point of the argument to justify your invasion of a woman's privacy.

I do not condone this turn of events and do not blame her for them. I simply feel that if she should not have taken compromising pictures of herself in the first place.

EDIT: In light of EVERYONE saying I am victim blaming, I have changed the title of the topic to more accurately reflect my view on the matter.
Yes, it was prudent as we have no idea the reason as to why she did it. Nor should we be privy to that. So I think it's safe to assume that she acts with agency one can expect one to utilize in the process of actions. I also think it's safe to say that you are a troll for this trollish post. There is no possible situation that could have come from this post that would lead to this post being worthwhile in any sense of the word.
This isn't a troll post, I just think it was pretty reckless to take pictures of yourself nude, regardless of who you are and upload them from your phone to the "cloud". It's not very prudent to huff paint but people do it anyway for the high, it's not prudent to drive way faster than the speed limit but people do it to get places quicker/for the high, it's not very prudent to eat really spicy food, but do it anyway for the flavor. Point I'm making, even if you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should do it. Taking nude photos of yourself, regardless of medium, is risky as there is always the chance of someone not meant to, finding them. Putting them out digitally in any form, doubly so.

I never said she wasn't allowed to take the photos, why does everyone keep inserting that into their rebuttal?
There is literally nowhere else to go with this! You aren't making posts about spicy foods or paint huffers,and you don't because it's a meaningless post with nothing to it. You are making a post about putting the blame on a victim. You couldn't make a post about how Travon Martin shouldn't have taken pictures of himself with pot without being blamed for your racism. There isn't anywhere else to go with what we are given. It's a non-issue, her taking nude photos, she is allowed, end of story. She should just assume they will be stolen and therefore be able to know "right" from "wrong" and not take them, that is what you are implying. That logic doesn't fly, the pictures were stolen, she locked her "house" she didn't just leave them lying around. Prudency is just a filter, we have to assume you are using this to filter your intentions. You haven't convinced me at all btw.
I am so tired of this going to victim blaming, I'm not saying she's at fault they were stolen. However, she made a mistake in doing what she did.
 

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There's a difference between victim blaming and just not being responsible. So I guess it's ok for me to have pictures of rape or child porn on my phone because it's "my business". In a society there's suppose to be rules and regulations that force individuals to live like civilized human beings. Too many people think that "constitution" rights are guaranteed. Rights are not rights, they're privileges that can be taken away and infringed upon at anytime by both the government and the owners of corporations that tell the government what's in their best interest unless they want to shutdown. Want an example or two?

Look at the internment camps Japanese Americans were forced in during WW2. They were forced into camps without due process or any say whatsoever. Guess those rights aren't really rights are they when someone with a bigger gun than you can take them away?

Look at business and news forums everywhere constantly controlling, banning, or downright suppression any kind of information that's against whatever business that website is a part of. Freedom of press is constantly and always been infringed upon, even when the right was first declared.

Your responsible for anything negative that happens to you. If someone manages to find dirt on you, maybe you shouldn't of caused that dirt in the first place? People wanting to have a life and make big mistakes is and has always been a fallacy. Start thinking and planning ahead instead of "living a life and having fun as biggest priority". Anyone who puts having fun and having a life over work and responsibility is a waste of resources and time.
 

vIRL Nightmare

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Rocket Girl said:
vIRL Nightmare said:
Rocket Girl said:
vIRL Nightmare said:
I just, I can't even comprehend the train og thought, the logic in thinking, "Hm I'm hugely famous and not a fucking pornstar so I'm just going to take some naked pictures of myself with a device that has internet access after nary a few months ago most news sites were plastered with things like heart-bleed and how not secure anything was. If they wanted the nude images as a form of art then they should have no need to be hurt or offended to this degree, if the photos were made for any reason other than art then I just can't understand why anyone would think this was a good idea.
Or, or, hear me out here - or they just wanted to be a bit sexy with themselves or a partner. Maybe, rather than type out seven paragraphs concerning what you think of the victims of a crime, you should either say nothing, condemn the criminals, or offer advice - such as, "if you have nudes, I'd take them out of the cloud to be safe."
Here's some advice. Don't do it ever for any reason through any means. It is a very poor life decision to not consider the consequences of your actions because you wanted a little sexy time when you can alternatively do so in the presence of your intended individual. There is no reason for anyone to be surprised about this. Nudes and sex videos have been a thing for a very long time, decades easily and though you are not as wrong as the creep that stole your pictures you are still in the wrong by ignorance because we like to say ignorance isn't an excuse for everything else so why be contrary to that on this specific case other than it is obvious media viewer bait.

That said I did give my input my advice if you will multiple times. That advice being don't do it and don't be so upset when you fail to consider possible consequences of your actions.
Your advice to help avoid having a crime committed upon you, is to limit your behaviour by removing something you enjoy from your life entirely. Again, no regard for the victims. Again, flat out telling someone not to do a perfectly legal, healthy form of sexual expression.

If you want to avoid having your possessions stolen, ladies, just listen to Nightmare here and have none. Also, when your belongings are stolen, don't be upset, because you had it coming.
Under that limited and narrow view yes I'm satan. Having your possessions, money, even as i pointed out photos stolen sucks and it is the crook that is wrong for stealing anything. I'm addressing the issue as to why anyone is dumb enough to take naked photos of themselves at all. Perhaps I should clarify that despite that I think, not just the lass but all of those individuals that had their photos stolen are in fact victims and that no one has any right stealing another's possessions and that I'm not ignorant enough to say don't have things if you don't want them stolen.I suppose I should also clarify my point was why anyone is stupid enough to have naked photos of themselves in the first place especially considering what that could do to you if the wrong person stole it. I suppose I should grovel at my opinion of daring to say people need to think about the consequences of having that lapse in judgement that possesses you to think naked photos of yourself is in anyway a good idea to have lying around. However I don't think I'll continue on with someone that is clearly looking for the misogynist in the room when it turns out he i.e. me is talking about more than just one girl and how everyone who got their private photos spilled, though victims and deserving some sympathy made the grievous and I would think obvious mistake of taking nudes of themselves. I've never heard of a story where that was a good thing for anyone but hey thanks for making my little explosion into something it wasn't.
 

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I am not victim blaming here
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I simply feel that if[sic] she should not have taken compromising pictures of herself in the first place.
equals hypocrisy.

What if her banking info had been stolen, her accounts cleaned out? Would you say she shouldn't have given her money to a bank in the first place?

Also, if you looked the way she does, you'd want to take nude photos of yourself, too. Just sayin'.