- Jul 30, 2013
Fair enough, however the context needs to be changed when applying my point to something else. Perhaps only I think this way but it seems to me that there is an extreme lapse in judgement to take nudes of yourself. It is not an extreme lapse injudgement to try and make an indie game. Perhaps to correct my issue with this whole situation my problem is with what seems to be poor judgement without considering future ramifications, my line of think is in terms of like driving drunk, aggravating dangerous animals, lighting houses on fire things that seem like obvious don't do's and I personally feel having nude photos of yourself falls in that list because of how unsecure things really are. It sucks her privacy was invaded in that way and to say I have no sympathy on the situation wouldn't be accurate. I do however think that she, and everyone else who had their privacy invaded like that let's not forget there are several celebrities currently affected by this are probably having that moment where they're thinking, "Why did I take those nudes". I don't think they deserve to feel that way or to have their privacy invaded, god no I believe it is wrong to do anything harmful to any person undeserving of it but the things is it did happen to them and that they made the decision to have those photos when we all should know how unsecure most things are in the following events of heartbleed and the current situations with supposed unknown cell towers made the situation worse. It's easy to say that I'm saying that having things makes you bad, but that is the furthest thing from my intentions or meaning. What I'm saying is even if it is something silly like posting a bunch of images of your home you, me we, all of us needs to stop and think if what we're doing could negatively impact us and whether or not we're ok with that risk, and naked pictures of yourself should be on that list.Rocket Girl said:Twice in your rant you refer to the victims of a crime as dumb and stupid for expressing their own sexuality and storing their private belongings in a protected server akin to a safe -- that was sadly broken into. Your only argument to support your claim that these victims (and myself, as I indeed have naked pictures of myself) are idiots, is... they could be stolen and that would be bad. Let me debunk your entire argument here with a simple hypothetical scenario:vIRL Nightmare said:Dumb enough to take naked photos of themselves at all
Why anyone is stupid enough to have naked photos of themselves in the first place
An indie dev is working on their first major video game. They are almost ready to put it up for the Greenlight community on Steam. They have enjoyed making video games for many years and doing so brings them great joy. Then, without provocation, their servers are broken into and their content stolen. The thief sees this game in progress and decides to release it to the public as their own game. They are first to market and despite the small legal effort the indie developer can muster, the damage is done, the game is in the public eye and their big break is a big bust.
What you have here is the victim of a crime suffering a major loss thanks to a thief deciding the contents of their servers were up for grabs. If the indie dev hadn't stored their game on a server - or indeed stored it at all - there'd be nothing to steal. Having something stored and saved that could harm them greatly - as you put it - has ultimately resulted in irreversible damage. Using your own logic, it's clear no one should ever store any form of work.
Yes, that is absurd and I know full well you will think the same. But that's what your logic dictates. This is what is called reductio ad absurdum - taking the logic of an argument to a different extreme to demonstrate its absurdity. You think nudes are bad and have constructed this argument to suit that belief, but using the method just explained, I have shown you why it doesn't hold any water.
I get applying logic to different situations to make a point, but the context and meaning should remain the same as well, or if my point be unclear as I admittedly ranted in a difficult to follow manner point out my apparently flawed logic. Without the same context and meaning I could effectively change the intent of the message.