The_root_of_all_evil said:
Therumancer said:
"Mazes and Monsters" actually has a somewhat legitimate excuse though, because it's very loosely based on real events.
In the same way that
The Philadelphia Experiment was based on true events...
Totally made-up excuse for something that never happened, and then over-dramatised in a horrible film that set out specifically to attack the demon of the time.
In fact, about as "true" as Faux News report on the "unbridled virtual sex" of Mass Effect.
No, and it's that attitude that brings a lot of problems down on fandom communities. Sometimes what is being said is BS, sometimes there is truth in it.
In this paticular case James Dallas Egbert III, who had a lot of various problems, really did get lost in a set of Steam Tunnels, and did commit suicide while being heavily involved in the game. It's also very true that the steam tunnels were being heavily used for early LARP and SCA type events.
As I explained, the crux of the matter is in how Gary Gygax handled the situation with the media though.
The problem with the "Mazes and Monsters" movie is that it's based on a novel (fiction) which was based on real events. Thus your seeing it through a lot of filters, and the movie got taken a lot more seriously than it should have due to being promoted as being based on a true story... which it was only very loosely, but a number of the facts in a very basic sense are pretty much correct.
The problem with the fandom community is that we tend to attack indiscriminatly and focus on specific aspects of a situation, rather than the big picture. Just because we're right on some things does not mean that the other side has no legitimate points, even if they are wrong over all.
Lumping books like "The Dungeon Master" or the things that derived from it (like this movie) into the same catagory as say Chich tracts (Jack Chic's stuff, like the Dark Dungeons Pamphlet) is a mistake, and arguably is one of the reasons why the contreversy lasted as long as it did, since the community was very much skirting around an issue that had some grounding in reality.
A more recent example of this is if you look up the "Vampire Clan" killings, or the allegations of Child Abuse through games like "Vampire The Masquerade", there are actual incidents connected to the whole thing where people have used the gaming groups as a doorway to get people to do other things.
Now, there is a lot of truth to the fact that someone has to be mentally unstable to begin with before something like an RPG or computer game will put them over the edge, and it's a valid point. Egbert for example was known to have a lot of problems. However the degree to which those problems must be present is debatable, as well as whether these forms of escapism can make those problems worse. As gamers we will argue "no, of course not" the other side is going to of course argue that they do. Being totally dismissive of the arguement however makes us look callous and arguably pours fuel on the flame to keep the arguements going.