Webcomic Review: 8-Bit Theater

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I have the day off from work today so I figured I would throw up another review of one of the webcomics I read regularly, 8-Bit Theater.

Brian Clevinger has had quite an amazing ride as a comic creator, what with the publication of his Atomic Robo series now mainstreamed in comic shops nationally having garnered him some special attention in the industry. He also is connected with the webcomic juggernaut Blind Ferret Entertainment, which represents, distributes, and creates media for many very good webcomics, including PVP from my first review.

Clevinger's site, www.nuklearpower.com, is one of my favorites on the net. When he was doing 8-Bit exclusively he had two character based columns from Red Mage and Evil Princess Sarah that were excellent reads, especially Red Mage's Twinkin' Out. Unfortunately, for reasons I am unclear on, the friend/writer of Clevinger's stopped the series. I can't find the link to it on Clevinger's newly refurbished site, but I imagine the archives will return once he gets everything working smoothly. If so you should check them out.

I mention the humble beginnings of Clevinger's comic because you can see the growth and success translate into the comic as you read it. A devout follower/admirer of his comic like Yahtzee might know more about it's development and growth than me, but I will attempt to faithfully evaluate it myself. If you think I'm just name-dropping Mr. Croshaw here well, I am, but his own "online journal" contains a link to 8-Bit that includes the caption "In the face of webcomics like this, faith in my own ability to run a webcomic as good was quickly lost."

So if my endorsement and review doesn't make you go check this out perhaps the rabid Yahtzee fanboys will pursue it on fanatical principal alone. I can't decide if I think this is a good thing.

At any rate, Clevinger's comic.

First, the premise of the comic is decidedly simple and therefore very effective. It loosely follows the plot of several Final Fantasy games from the NES/SNES era, using sprites from those games as it's characters. There are some main themes that drive the comic and make it successful when coupled with the unique art manipulation Clevinger employs. The best part of the story is in the four protagonists: Fighter, Red Mage, Thief, and Black Mage. The term anti-hero is bandied about nowadays with occasional inaccuracy, but it fits this collection of misfits quite well. Only Fighter really has "good" qualities, and is too stupid to recognize the deception and evil of his fellows, Red Mage is bent on breaking all universal rules (see: game exploitation), Thief is... a thief, and Black Mage stabs things and lusts after the virtuous White Mage. They are all banded together for entirely selfish/contrived reasons that add to the hilarity. Additionally, they are each individually so incompetent that only by banding together can they cancel out one-another's idiocy. Though, Thief tends to have a good amount of intelligence and trickery up his sleeve.



The plot is essentially save the world, but through the complete ineptitude of all involved (heroes and villains) incredible hysterics are generated. All the villains are entertainingly stupid or have some major personality flaw that prevents them from overcoming the protagonists. Clevinger writes well, and the loose representation of a plot along with his recent admission he has no idea where the story is going or how it will end creates constant amusement.

The plot is also the weakness of Clevinger's comic. He frequently states that his sense of humor often includes "jokes on the audience." Thus, you are going to read some comics that you don't find funny or simply are so ridiculous you can only shake your head. The first story line, leading up to the confrontation with the first villain, Garland, is excellent. The jokes are spot on, the comedy is non-stop, and the experimentation employed by Clevinger results mostly in success for him and the audience. After the conclusion of that story line, the humor persists for some time, and then we hit a lull.

I suspect, though this is entirely theory on my part, that Clevinger wasn't really sure where to take things next. He hatches upon the "find X number of orbs of the elements for the mysterious stranger" story and uses that to set up different "classic" settings like forests, pirate ships, and vampire dens. The humor is not as consistently brilliant, but the drier moments always contain some diamond of funny in them that keeps you going. When in doubt, Clevinger will bring in a new character to mock an RPG element or stereotype that he wants to touch on. These characters fly back into the story without warning and seemingly without reason, but where normally this would be a criticism I instead find it appealing. Clevinger's universe is supposed to be completely nonsensical, and the constant injection of randomness becomes old-hat and comforting. If Clevinger were to try and tie in everything too sensibly or neatly it would blow things out of that formula. This section is the growth period I mentioned before. Clevinger dances about with a spaghetti string plot to make infrequent jokes and references to gaming and other topics. During this phase inconsistent humor appears. As a disclaimer it may be more thematic humor where, if the topic is not familiar or amusing to the reader, it falls flat for that person. I personally found this period less entertaining, but with serious highlights that kept me interested. Most recently the humor has come on much stronger, reminiscent of the comic's beginnings. Every comic has a growth and development period and 8-Bit is no different, I wouldn't let my criticism deter you from slogging through all the archives, especially for those glistening gems of funny that will crack you up if your patient enough.

I mentioned the art before and I want to be sure I touch on it before I conclude this review. What consistently astounds me is how Clevinger can convey emotions of sprites by editing something as simple as eye angle and hand gesture. Every time I read I know exactly what the character is thinking or feeling and I can hear the tone of their voice from seeing the picture next to the speech-balloon. The art, and it is art, is the best reason to give the comic a chance. Some might not like Clevinger's often bizarre humor or dig the rambling plot and crazy characters, but you can't help but admire his skill with the artwork. If you ever played an early console Final Fantasy game you have to check this out. If you didn't, well play one and then read the comic.

Also of note, you can find some fan-films of the first several comics on Newgrounds by searching for 8-Bit Theater, and there is a classic video of the Dead Alewives D&D skit with 8-Bit characters out there too. I actually thought when I first saw Unforgotten Realms that Rob might have had a hand in the creation of the 8-Bit videos, but after re-watching them I believe I was mistaken. I'm sure Rob could tell me definitively if I really wanted to bother him, but I don't. Still, it would wonderful if the creators TLF and Meddros would reemerge to make the films again, though I don't expect any miracles soon.

At any rate, go and check out Brian Clevinger's website and see what you think. I'd like to hope everyone can appreciate the excellent work he has put together, but I know that for some it isn't penetrable or enjoyable. My advice, start from the beginning and work your way through, it is worth it. Be sure to check out the associated media as it will definitely make you laugh. Lastly, Clevinger is fiddling with a new comic linked to the website, I haven't poked around in it yet but I can only assume it is as well done as his other works.

Edit - Image added.
 

ShockValue

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Great review Vulture. I can't believe I haven't heard of this webcomic, guess I'll go check it out.
 

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I see that at least a couple people are reading these reviews so to gauge future interest I am planning to review the following:

Erfworld
Order of the Stick
Dominic Deegan
Better Days
Least I Could Do
Looking For Group
Goblins
Dungeons and Denizens
VG Cats
Penny Arcade
Broken Plot Device
Sabrina Online
Questionable Content
Dinosaur Comics
Ctrl+Alt+Del
Chugworth Academy
Menage a 3
Candi
Chopping Block

I don't have a specific order in mind but those are all the ones I definitely plan to review. Goal is to post a new review tomorrow, a two for one. Haven't decided if it will be one post or two.
 

El Taco the Rogue

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I used to love 8-bit theater. I reckon do an Order of the Stick review first, as way more people should look into it. Its my fave webcomic.
 

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Best, Comic. EVAH! and a good review, too.

Honestly, I check his site everyday to see if he's updated. Always funny, even when he get's a bit dry, like you said.

Also, he updates WAY faster then the other Web-comics I like. I barely have to wait more then a week for them, if even that.
 

vultureX21

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Ramthundar said:
Best, Comic. EVAH! and a good review, too.

Honestly, I check his site everyday to see if he's updated. Always funny, even when he get's a bit dry, like you said.

Also, he updates WAY faster then the other Web-comics I like. I barely have to wait more then a week for them, if even that.
You've probably already seen Warbot in Accounting, his new experimental comic, but if you haven't take a peek. I swear no one else could come up with such a ridiculous and amusing premise.
 

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vultureX21 said:
I see that at least a couple people are reading these reviews so to gauge future interest I am planning to review the following:

Erfworld
Order of the Stick
Dominic Deegan
Better Days
Least I Could Do
Looking For Group
Goblins
Dungeons and Denizens
VG Cats
Penny Arcade
Broken Plot Device
Sabrina Online
Questionable Content
Dinosaur Comics
Ctrl+Alt+Del
Chugworth Academy
Menage a 3
Candi
Chopping Block

I don't have a specific order in mind but those are all the ones I definitely plan to review. Goal is to post a new review tomorrow, a two for one. Haven't decided if it will be one post or two.

I've only heard of 3 of those, and only read one of them.

Anyone syggest like the top 3, i already know penny arcade.
 

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I would recommend Dinosaur, especially becuase I think they are horrible and I am curious why people like it so much.
 

vultureX21

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
I would recommend Dinosaur, especially becuase I think they are horrible and I am curious why people like it so much.
But do you really want to make me read through ALL of those comics in the archive?

But seriously, I am dreading the day I do the Dinosaur Comics review because I WILL read every comic and I might die of repetition poisoning. This could be the one comic that falls into the "art for art's sake" category better than any. I mean, clearly the point is to take the premise of unchanging art and run with it as long as possible. It makes you wonder if the real joke is that it just keeps on going.
 

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vultureX21 said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I would recommend Dinosaur, especially becuase I think they are horrible and I am curious why people like it so much.
But do you really want to make me read through ALL of those comics in the archive?

But seriously, I am dreading the day I do the Dinosaur Comics review because I WILL read every comic and I might die of repetition poisoning. This could be the one comic that falls into the "art for art's sake" category better than any. I mean, clearly the point is to take the premise of unchanging art and run with it as long as possible. It makes you wonder if the real joke is that it just keeps on going.
That could, essentially, be your review.
 

vultureX21

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
vultureX21 said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I would recommend Dinosaur, especially becuase I think they are horrible and I am curious why people like it so much.
But do you really want to make me read through ALL of those comics in the archive?

But seriously, I am dreading the day I do the Dinosaur Comics review because I WILL read every comic and I might die of repetition poisoning. This could be the one comic that falls into the "art for art's sake" category better than any. I mean, clearly the point is to take the premise of unchanging art and run with it as long as possible. It makes you wonder if the real joke is that it just keeps on going.
That could, essentially, be your review.
Nah, I'll squeeze more out of it. There is a lot of philosophical discussion to be had in addition to whether or not it is funny.
 

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I was a part of ClanBOB (who formed up around Dan Jaaren who was doing the old ass comic called, "Life of Riley" just to play Tribes with tons of people) during the days when Clevinger used to hang out with us.

At that point, he told me how the comic was a finite piece of work that was coming to an end, so I had less desire to read it. But then I went back to it and enjoyed it, so it didn't matter whether or not it was going to end (loved the Dallas ending comic - hilarious).
 

vultureX21

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McClaud said:
I was a part of ClanBOB (who formed up around Dan Jaaren who was doing the old ass comic called, "Life of Riley" just to play Tribes with tons of people) during the days when Clevinger used to hang out with us.

At that point, he told me how the comic was a finite piece of work that was coming to an end, so I had less desire to read it. But then I went back to it and enjoyed it, so it didn't matter whether or not it was going to end (loved the Dallas ending comic - hilarious).
I think it has to be finite based on the source material and because of the sheer ridiculousness of it. I don't know if Clevinger could keep coming up with the hysterical missteps of his "heroes" forever, though if one guy could do it I would bank on him.
 

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Over 1000 dialogue-filled strips in, and it still makes me laugh. The new comic, Warbot in Accounting, isn't that funny, though. His news posts are quite entertaining, too. Sometimes.
 

vultureX21

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Over 1000 dialogue-filled strips in, and it still makes me laugh. The new comic, Warbot in Accounting, isn't that funny, though. His news posts are quite entertaining, too. Sometimes.
Warbot is just strange, but, I've come to expect that from Clevinger. He enjoys writing jokes on the reader as much as writing them for the reader. I feel like he gets a good chuckle after every Warbot comic is posted.
 

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Good review. I enjoy their comic most of the time, and I feel it is partly because I grew up playing nes games so it is a lot of fun for me to characters that I feel a bit nostalgic about say and do things that you could have only imagined. It is like with GI Joes making up their dialogue only with 8-bit characters. Makes me feel 8 again, and I believe that is okay.