ace_of_something said:
The difference is pants.
Nothing else wears pants.
Touche good sir. Touche.
Wushu Panda said:
Im going to paraphrase a VERY nerdy book i dont even own and see what happens.
"Do you love your dog? Of course. Does your dog love you? Of course it does. Would you say you can understand your dog, do you understand why it whines and barks and is content when you scratch it? Yes, it behaves according to stimuli rather consistantly. Does your dog understand you? Again, yes, it can tell when you are sad or happy or suchlike. Can your dog understand your art? Even if you could convey your art to your dog in its own colours could your dog grasp the nuances in feeling and emotion, in circumstance and meaning, of metaphor and of your inner feelings? Could it understand WHY you chose the colours in that order, what meaning they hold, could it puzzle at your intent in your work? No. It could not. A dog can make paint on some paper, we cannot even tell if it can worship a diety, assuming it doesnt hold you, an infinite provider and leader, in such a regard, but at the end of the day it cant understand why. It cant express deeper feelings and emotions, it cant express itself to the degree we do, show an understanding of a world greater than its own, of feelings deeper than the immediate."
If dogs were NEARLY as creative as humans a GOOD proportion of them would be making art in some shape or form, hell we OBSESSIVELY did it for 4000 years, like TONNES of humans just painted and carved and sculpted. And while dogs might lack the tools they never show an interest in creating something permenant, some can be
trained to make art but they dont spontaniously make it, not like we do. Like those cave drawings and basic carvings, we produce art like crazy people. If you put 50 people in a solid white room i can promise ALL of them would attempt to express themselves in some way if given ANY means to do so, via ANY form of art. Dogs would play. Theres no independant attempt to create. And thats the seperation.
Animals can be trained to make art. But they dont just go and make it. Monkeys do to a degree, but it seems to be random scrawlings, never even the most basic renditions of ANYTHING that they can see or feel or are.
Leave a person a paper and pen and they will draw something to express a relationship with themselves or something or a deeper feelings, even a feral human will attempt to draw something they have seen, even in the crudest sense. Millions of years of dinosaurs meritted NOTHING.
I mean cave men were spending 99% of their time fleeing from predators and trying to survive with barely any intelligence and they STILL scribbled renditions of real world objects and situations, i mean animals dont even make the attempt. Its always clumsy and really just an attempt to play with the pretty colours. If one dog somewhere made an attempt to scratch a dog into the dirt or some wood (it has the motor skills, why doesnt it) id buy your arguement. Not one dog has in the history of dogs. And yet we just never stop doing it. Difference.
Azahul said:
This is for you too.
