What does the world have against America?

[Malty Milk Whistle]

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Someones a tad defensive today..... but the difference between the British empire and U.S.A is that most Britons well....dont like the idea of a empire, and think it was a terrible time...and this forum is about america as a governmental body, not the individuals.

 

[Timberwolf0924]

US is one of the greatest country in the world and yes I dare say many other countries out there wouldn't be without us. (Yes France we know you helped us during the Revolutionary War, thanks for that) Yea we stick our noses in where it doesn't belong. But think about WWI and WWII who was the major player in both wars? The U.S of A, hell even historians say if the US didn't get attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan, then there'd be just one big Germany and one big Japan, then Africa (cause nobody wants that place) and America. (cause.. U.S of A!) Austrilia would still be there cause the land itself would kill the invading forces.

But the US has saved other countries many times and we give food to needy countries and have some of the best people in the world. (although I personally think we need to get shit set up in this country before we go to others and deal with them.)

But we are backwards on lots of things. As I said, we need to get things straight here before we go out and try to fix other places, and I think instead of sending billions of dollars of top quality foods to 3rd world countries, we should be sending billions of dollars to feed our homeless and poor instead.

So, while I do think we are the best at what we do, we're also blind to our own problems.

 

[Timberwolf0924]

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[Gluzzbung]

I don't hate Americans but I hold no respect for most of them since I watched Mississippi Burning. For those who aren't familiar with it, Mississippi Burning is a film about racism in the 1960s and it moved me quite a lot. After I watched I sat and thought for a few moments and reflected on what the non-racist North had done while there was racism still going around and it is evident from the film and the way America is run that they had done all they could and from what I thought, it had simmered down to some very localised incidents. The news the next day talked about two black school boys being beaten up in Alabama by White Supremecists. My initial thought was obviously 'how tragic.' I then looked on a news website to find out more and I saw a whole host of other incidents like this in the last few years, spread from Florida to Texas to Missouri and I just thought that no American could say they are a fair and well meassured human being with that amount of Racism going on in their country. Thats why I don't hold respect for Americans.

 

[Descalon]

No, nobody has the capacity to destroy the world. They are able to destroy nations, sure, but that's not the same thing. In the event of a full scale nuclear war, most people (as in, somewhat more than half) would survive. Humanity would be set back decades or centuries, but it'd recover.

Fair enough about the "destroying of nations", but we've got no bloody idea what full-out nuclear war will do to the world and everything in it. Yeah, there are theoretical models and whatnot, but no physical proof.

 

[Da Joz]

I'm an American and I absolutely hate how so many of us idolize people like the Kashardians and the cast of Jersey Shore. Makes me sick.

 

[Thaluikhain]

But think about WWI and WWII who was the major player in both wars? The U.S of A, hell even historians say if the US didn't get attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan, then there'd be just one big Germany and one big Japan, then Africa (cause nobody wants that place) and America. (cause.. U.S of A!) Austrilia would still be there cause the land itself would kill the invading forces.

Not true, the US wasn't the giant it is now in WW1.

Secondly, in WW2, though they were massively important, without them the war would have still been won by the Allies. The Germans couldn't hope to defeat the Soviets, and Japan was massively over-stretching itself.

Of course, the war would have dragged on for many years more, and the USSR would have gained much more territory in time for the Cold War, but that's another issue.

I don't hate Americans but I hold no respect for most of them since I watched Mississippi Burning. For those who aren't familiar with it, Mississippi Burning is a film about racism in the 1960s and it moved me quite a lot. After I watched I sat and thought for a few moments and reflected on what the non-racist North had done while there was racism still going around and it is evident from the film and the way America is run that they had done all they could and from what I thought, it had simmered down to some very localised incidents. The news the next day talked about two black school boys being beaten up in Alabama by White Supremecists. My initial thought was obviously 'how tragic.' I then looked on a news website to find out more and I saw a whole host of other incidents like this in the last few years, spread from Florida to Texas to Missouri and I just thought that no American could say they are a fair and well meassured human being with that amount of Racism going on in their country. Thats why I don't hold respect for Americans.

I certainly understand your point, but the US is hardly alone in that. Now, I know that's the cop out defense "but, but, everyone else is doing it!", and there is much to be condemned about the US in regards to racism, but it's still very easy to condemn foreign parts for failings you have at home.

Also, you can't respect USians as a whole? Aren't the victims of racism just as much citizens are the perpetrators?

 

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[Substitute Troll]

Well for me it's mainly, what would have happened if Bush had lost the election?

 

[hubert]

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[For.I.Am.Mad]

Seems to be a lot of revisionist history in this thread.

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Someones a tad defensive today..... but the difference between the British empire and U.S.A is that most Britons well....dont like the idea of a empire, and think it was a terrible time...and this forum is about america as a governmental body, not the individuals.

Really, I as an American like the idea of an empire? What else do I like?

 

[minimacker]

I don't hate AmericanS, I hate the American Government.

Patroit act.
SOPA/PIPA.
Fucking Indefinite Detention Act (This is the bomb for my hatred)

 

[Thaluikhain]

Fair enough about the "destroying of nations", but we've got no bloody idea what full-out nuclear war will do to the world and everything in it. Yeah, there are theoretical models and whatnot, but no physical proof.

True, I'm always a bit leery of predictions.

But an awful lot of time and effort has been put into getting a fairly firmly grasp of the effects of nuclear weapons.

Secondly, the Earth is really, really big, and contains in excess of 7 billion people.

If the war kills 99.99% of all of humanity, but leaves 700,000 sitting around somewhere, (alright, they can't all be scattered around, they have to be able to form at least one soceity afterwards), it's failed to destroy the species.

The USSR received alot of aid from the US. I'm no historian, but I'm pretty sure the outcome could have been different on the eastern front if the USSR didn't receive aid from the US.

That's an important point, yes, but as I understand it, the German attack was doomed from the start. They simply didn't have the logistics to move their forces deep into enemy territory and keep them supplied. Without US aid the Soviets would have had a much worse time of it, yes, but would have eventually won.

 

[hubert]

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[Benni88]

I have absolutely nothing against Americans. I've met many who are polite, funny, creative and ambitious.

I cannot say the same for its political system, which can eat a dick, for allowing itself to commit massive crimes against humanity and hypocritically claim to be aiding the common man.

No country is perfect, I recently read about atrocities committed by the English during the Boer Wars. The difference is that a lot of Americans would prefer to ignore things their country is currently doing and that's just fine by the current political/corporate leaders.

 

[mgsaxty]

I live in england. nobody over hear even dislkies americans. nobody i know at least. im thinking of visting some day soon.

 

[DarkArk]

Not true, the US wasn't the giant it is now in WW1.

Secondly, in WW2, though they were massively important, without them the war would have still been won by the Allies. The Germans couldn't hope to defeat the Soviets, and Japan was massively over-stretching itself.

Of course, the war would have dragged on for many years more, and the USSR would have gained much more territory in time for the Cold War, but that's another issue.

Yes, and the IJN would have been destroyed by whose navy? Not America's in this scenario, and certainly not Britain's given what happened in real life. If there is no fleet to defend at Coral Sea Australia is up the creek.

Without American help the Soviets would have never had a chance to destroy Germany. Sure they might not have lost per se but they never would have had the ability to march across Europe as fast as they did. The Soviets simply didn't have enough trucks and trains on their own, and they never would have gained the strategic initiative.

 

[GraveeKing]

I assume someone will put an 'oh this thread' picture up at some point - if they haven't already... then it'll slowly burn into a flame-war and yeah.... I know how this goes but I don't care, because I enjoy repeating my views... again and again...

Most people I know who have hatred for the place, dislike the country - NOT the people, I mean yeah, they have some shotgun wielding loony-bins as much as here in the UK we have stab-friendly chavs! I think the reason a lot of people dislike America more is that the government and a lot of the people don't just observe the fact they got things wrong - they simply don't care and pretend to be better.

You try and tell a patriot that it's not the land of freedom and oh boy you may as well be on fox news! At least a good amount of people here - you say, insult the royals, and the vast majority will be like... yeah it's probably true.
I don't hate Americans and I don't know many who do, but it's mainly the fact that the country itself appears as a show-off and it annoys others.

 

[Malty Milk Whistle]

Seems to be a lot of revisionist history in this thread.

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Someones a tad defensive today..... but the difference between the British empire and U.S.A is that most Britons well....dont like the idea of a empire, and think it was a terrible time...and this forum is about america as a governmental body, not the individuals.

Really, I as an American like the idea of an empire? What else do I like?

Food? but yea, i admit i did not make that clear but whether you like it or not, the American culture is practically empirical, with most people on the globe knowing a lot about american culture and suchlike.
and his original post was about the subject of the British empire, so Ya'know. but if i am honest, most people (where i live at least) don't dislike the people, just the foreign policy and american media (i'm looking at you Fox)

 

[Black Arrow Officer]

Our politicians are complete jokes. It doesn't matter what they said they'll do or their "stances" while running, the second they enter those Capitol Building doors they're up for grabs by any corporation. I made a joke with my friend the other day that politicians should be covered in brand-name stickers to signify which companies they've sold out to, like NASCAR cars. Once they're bought out, it only takes a steady stream of cash to direct their votes to what the corporation wants. It's a mess, and I'm not sure change is in our direct future, what with SOPA and other outrageous bills floating around.