What exactly counts as a genre?

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So, I really like listening to audio books. They give me the opportunity to expand my knowledge when I'm working or driving, what have you. Recently I noticed that Audible, a company/app that sells audio books, seems to have removed the Horror genre from their list of genres and I have no clue why they would do that. Does it no longer count as a genre? Why? Is there even a standard criteria for what makes something a genre or not?
 

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Um...

That's a good question.

Given the constant arguments about science fiction vs fantasy or science fantasy...going to go with "um" for that one. Especially as most works wont fit nicely into one genre or another, but contain elements of several.
 

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Genre is a consumerist tool to put stories into boxes such that they are easier on marketers to sell and easier for consumers to find.

The only real divide in books is literature vs pulp fiction, and its less of a divide and more of a spectrum in writing styles and goals.

Audible either has a bug or they decided to cut the Horror tag because they think classifying those books another way will make more money.
 

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Err... what are you talking about?

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Err... what are you talking about?

Ok I get what's happened now. They've changed how the interface works for phones.

Question is still valid though, what exactly should one count as a genre?

Edit: Side not. Don't buy The Elementals, it's ending is really disappointing, as is it's explanation for what's going on.
 

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Question is still valid though, what exactly should one count as a genre?
Depends on the platform I suppose. On general online shops, genres will likely be vague to help cataloging a very large range of products, but for specialist sites, genres could be very specific to cater to what it knows is a niche customer base.
 

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Ok I get what's happened now. They've changed how the interface works for phones.

Question is still valid though, what exactly should one count as a genre?
Well, the question came up because something not being counted as a genre. So the discussion probably should start with that: what doesn't count as a genre? Genre tells us how to read the book, it clues us on what assumptions to bring with us for the story and the pacing to make sense. How does the word "Horror" accomplishes it while the word "Dracula" doesn't?
 

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In general, people use the term to denote the main focus of the story of the book. The "romance' genre for example, lets you know that the primary narrative focus, is going to be on the relationship drama between the main characters. All other aspects of the story, while important, are simply there to serve the primary focus, getten the protagonists nekked and boinking. It's mostly just there to let people browsing know the kind of story they are most likely going to get, in case it's a genre they don't like. Like myself, I'm not a fan of horror, so if the book says it's a horror novel, which can usually be easily confirmed by reading the synopsis, I'll pass. But something like LitRPG, tells me that it's going to be a book about people playing a virtual reality game, but we see it from their perspective. And the story will be similar to Ready Player One, in the broadest strokes. Namely that the plot will probably straddle dramatic events in-game and in reality as well. Common plot elements will be things like isolation and connectivity of humanity through technology, the sentient level of artificial intelligences, overcoming personal, real world problems by confronting them in game, etc.

So it's more than just a marketing label, it helps the customer know the type of book they will be getting.
 

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The expected confines of a narrative, audio, or visual experience that would denote expectations the experiences offers, as well as familiar rotes to be able to identify the earmarks of said experience in the annuals of societal norms.
 

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The expected confines of a narrative, audio, or visual experience that would denote expectations the experiences offers, as well as familiar rotes to be able to identify the earmarks of said experience in the annuals of societal norms.
This description just makes me giggle for some reason. Not sure why.
 

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I'll just leaves this here.

 

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Societal Norms of today will be the funniest dirty joke in the future and you're ahead of your time?
That...and you used annuals instead of annals when talking about the ledgers/records of societal norms. It amused me that you went so "high brow" language, and then used the wrong word at the end. Excellent floor peformance!! But you failed to stick the landing! East German judge gives you 6/10!
 

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That...and you used annuals instead of annals when talking about the ledgers/records of societal norms. It amused me that you went so "high brow" language, and then used the wrong word at the end. Excellent floor peformance!! But you failed to stick the landing! East German judge gives you 6/10!
Yay, I'm not the best speller! Everyone look at me!

Ok? Looking over? Cool. And we can move on with our days.