What happens to Elden Ring now?

[stroopwafel]

With Demon's Souls releasing on PS5 in just two months it's safe to say Elden Ring won't look nearly as good since it started development as a current gen title. We haven't seen anything of the game so far other than a short CG trailer more than a year ago. In my opinion they only have two options now which is either to release it early next year similarly like Dark Souls 2 or revise the entire project as a next-gen title. But since Elden Ring is From's 'biggest game to date' I don't see how a stark difference in graphic quality between Demon's Souls and Elden Ring would work. But on the other hand including current gen would mean much more sales and the game doesn't need to sell a system like Demon's Souls. But it also seems the longer they wait the weaker that argument becomes and the 15 months complete radio silence doesn't inspire much confidence. I can already see the Demons Souls/Elden Ring comparison videos. At this point I wouldn't even be that surprised if the project was silently cancelled.

 

[SilentPony]

I mean I would still hold confidence in Elden Ring. Remember Demon's Souls is still an old game, remake or not. And from what I've seen From Software isn't much involved in the remake, so its a crap shoot if its even working at launch, let alone good/better than the original. I put my faith in the years of experience and development From Software has earned since Demon's Souls. Each game was steadily better than the previous one, and while I prefer BloodBorne to Dark Souls 3, I'd admit DS3 is more polished and smoother than the PS4 version of Bloodborne.

 

[CriticalGaming]

First of all, let's not pretend that Souls games have ever been on the cutting edge of graphics tech. Even Sekiro isn't that good looking for a late generation game. They've always specialized in design. Leveling, combat, and world design have made up for their lack of fidelity.

As for what happens to it. Who knows? I'm sure it's still being worked on at this point because we've not heard otherwise. I would imagine it'll be a cross generation game at some point next year. For a PS4 and Ps5 release.

Though if we don't hear any info by E3 next year, I think the game might just be fucked. The game is being made from George R.R. Martin who writes slow as shit so maybe it's his slow ass work flow that is keeping this game down in the dumps. However at some point you would imagine they've gotta do SOMETHING with it. So yeah, if no new by summer '21, I think it would be safe to say it's fucked.

 

[stroopwafel]

I mean I would still hold confidence in Elden Ring. Remember Demon's Souls is still an old game, remake or not. And from what I've seen From Software isn't much involved in the remake, so its a crap shoot if its even working at launch, let alone good/better than the original. I put my faith in the years of experience and development From Software has earned since Demon's Souls. Each game was steadily better than the previous one, and while I prefer BloodBorne to Dark Souls 3, I'd admit DS3 is more polished and smoother than the PS4 version of Bloodborne.

Most of that experience is thanks to Japan Studio which also collaborates with Bluepoint on the DeS remake. Before Demon's Souls Fromsoft games played like ass and I'm probably one of the biggest fans of their games. What From always excelled in is art design and atmosphere and that is more than pretty graphics but you don't want a too big a difference espescially if one title(Elden Ring) releases much later. That is why it makes more sense to make it a next-gen title.

Bloodborne is my most favorite game of all time but here gameplay and engine is also done in collaboration with Japan Studio. Dark Souls 3 wouldn't exist if it wasn't preceded by BB since it uses the exact same engine and intricasies. I absolutely love DkS3 as well and played it probably a dozen times but I would still put the level design and sharp focus of BB above it. BB was really a cohesive whole and DkS3 more a greatest hits. I also consider the Souls style combat in BB to be implemened the absolute best so much so that DkS3 seems derivative of it if you compare it to, well, Dark Souls. No game will probably ever capture the sheer imagination of Bloodborne.

 

[stroopwafel]

The game is being made from George R.R. Martin who writes slow as shit so maybe it's his slow ass work flow that is keeping this game down in the dumps. However at some point you would imagine they've gotta do SOMETHING with it. So yeah, if no new by summer '21, I think it would be safe to say it's fucked.

From what I understand that Martin script was already delivered. Whatever development problems Elden Ring has or what other reason we haven't heard about the game I'd be very surprised it has to do with background lore.

 

[CriticalGaming]

From what I understand that Martin script was already delivered. Whatever development problems Elden Ring has or what other reason we haven't heard about the game I'd be very surprised it has to do with background lore.

I think the real question is if Elden Ring is going to be what everyone hopes it will be to begin with. I think we've all got the assumption that it will be a Souls' style game in terms of combat just in a new world. But Miazaki and FromSoft have said that they are done with that kind of game, and we already saw that with Sekiro which, while still hard, was NOTHING like a Souls game and even turned off a lot of people hoping for a game that felt like Soulsborne.

All this hype could end up being for nothing if what they deliver is nothing like what made people fall in love with FromSoft in the first place.

 

[stroopwafel]

I think the real question is if Elden Ring is going to be what everyone hopes it will be to begin with. I think we've all got the assumption that it will be a Souls' style game in terms of combat just in a new world. But Miazaki and FromSoft have said that they are done with that kind of game, and we already saw that with Sekiro which, while still hard, was NOTHING like a Souls game and even turned off a lot of people hoping for a game that felt like Soulsborne.

All this hype could end up being for nothing if what they deliver is nothing like what made people fall in love with FromSoft in the first place.

I believe Miyazaki only said he had no interest in making more Dark Souls games(though other members of the team could) but that the next games would still meet 'fan expectations'(ie dark fantasy action-RPGs).

It's pretty much a no-brainer Elden Ring is a Souls style game the only question is how the combat mechanics have evolved.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I really, really hope Elden Ring is the God of War 2 of the current gen. Something that makes people say, waitaminute, the current gen ain’t quite done yet. I don’t know how far along it was, but I’ll at least give the benefit of the doubt that we didn’t know or hear much about Sekiro either other than the initial teaser trailer, up until just months before release IIRC. From the sounds of it ER is also a much bigger game, and Miyazaki doesn’t seem to be one to abandon a large project, especially involving a collaboration with one of his idols.

Or who knows; maybe he’s freaking out at the added pressure that might have caused. Hope that‘s not the case!

Really though, chances are we’ll see something new on it before the end of the year. Probably also to announce the cross-generational support.

 

[stroopwafel]

I really, really hope Elden Ring is the God of War 2 of the current gen. Something that makes people say, waitaminute, the current gen ain’t quite done yet. I don’t know how far along it was, but I’ll at least give the benefit of the doubt that we didn’t know or hear much about Sekiro either other than the initial teaser trailer, up until just months before release IIRC. From the sounds of it ER is also a much bigger game, and Miyazaki doesn’t seem to be one to abandon a large project, especially involving a collaboration with one of his idols.

Or who knows; maybe he’s freaking out at the added pressure that might have caused. Hope that‘s not the case!

Really though, chances are we’ll see something new on it before the end of the year. Probably also to announce the cross-generational support.

Sekiro was teased in december '17. It had trailers at E3/TGS etc in '18(release date was also announced) and released in early '19. From Software has never been this silent with any of their games. Whatever the reason for that is. You'd also expect Bamco wants to create hype for it.

 

[Ezekiel]

I don't care much about the graphics. I'm pretty sure most gamers don't care either, or Minecraft wouldn't be one of the most successful games of all time. Miyazaki's games were never even touted for their graphics.

 

[Dalisclock]

It's hard to make any assumptions since we still don't know what Elden Ring is. We have a cinematic trailer, some info from FROM and everything else is extrapolations based off their previous work. The big question is why so silent? Is it in a Dark Souls 2 type of development hell? Are they building it for Next Gen? What is "Open field"?

We don't know and it's really impossible to know until FROM opens up and tells us, whenever that is.

 

[SupahEwok]

I clicked on this thread expecting something along the lines of GRRM dying.

 

[BrawlMan]

And now....we waaaaaiiiittttt (whispering).....

 

[Dalisclock]

I clicked on this thread expecting something along the lines of GRRM dying.

In an unfortunate wedding "accident".....

 

[SupahEwok]

In an unfortunate wedding "accident".....

Shouldn't have chosen red as the primary wedding color.

 

[Dalisclock]

Shouldn't have chosen red as the primary wedding color.

Really, just don't attend a wedding in Westros and you....well, you probably won't be fine but you might live a little longer.

 

[SupahEwok]

Really, just don't attend a wedding in Westros and you....well, you probably won't be fine but you might live a little longer.

I dunno, say what you want about dismemberments, rapes, massacres, midgets on pigs, and wintry apocalypse, it seems pretty tame compared to 2020.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I clicked on this thread expecting something along the lines of GRRM dying.

Last I heard he was holing himself up in his cabin finishing Winds of Winter, so considering that was likely delayed because of his involvement in Elden Ring, chances are the whole lock stock and barrel are in Miyazaki’s hands now.

 

[Dalisclock]

Last I heard he was holing himself up in his cabin finishing Winds of Winter, so considering that was likely delayed because of his involvement in Elden Ring, chances are the whole lock stock and barrel are in Miyazaki’s hands now.

Not that I actually know GRR or anything, but from what I've read, ASoIaF started as a trilogy, of which the first book eventually turned into the first 3 books we have now. And then there was meant to be a time skip before the next book, but apparently he decided to go back and write the time skip which became books 4 and 5. Which, if it's true, means that we're technically not even to book 2 of his original plan(unless I'm reading that all wrong) and suggests his original plan went horribly off the rails.

Apparently the man is also prone to jumping around on projects, not focusing on one to completion as Game of Thrones has kind of demanded of him.

I don't know how much of any of this is true, but it would seem to explain why all of this is taking as long as it is because he doesn't know how to fix it.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Not that I actually know GRR or anything, but from what I've read, ASoIaF started as a trilogy, of which the first book eventually turned into the first 3 books we have now. And then there was meant to be a time skip before the next book, but apparently he decided to go back and write the time skip which became books 4 and 5. Which, if it's true, means that we're technically not even to book 2 of his original plan(unless I'm reading that all wrong) and suggests his original plan went horribly off the rails.

Apparently the man is also prone to jumping around on projects, not focusing on one to completion as Game of Thrones has kind of demanded of him.

I don't know how much of any of this is true, but it would seem to explain why all of this is taking as long as it is because he doesn't know how to fix it.

He’s a writer. It’s a long-winded occupation as it is, let alone the personality traits they typically seem to possess that only accentuate it.