Did you even read what I typed? I didn't state the reason why we lived, I stated how we live. As in what laws we follow, our experiences and emotions. The manner in which everyone lives is different, but in one definitive word we are all living. Regardless of how we live, where we live or what we live for.Lukyo said:When we say 'living' we are expresing the manner in which we live not the reason way we live.
But if you just want the reason were are alive, or exist, everything in the universe exists to glorify God and His Son in one way or another. Especially the 'evil' stuff. And if the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus isn't enough proof I don't know what else to tell you.
Okay, here's the point:Lukyo said:I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Everyone is equal because the all Holy and righteous God is the equalizer over all sinning and god-hating people.
Of course God is perfect so He has no flaws.Woodsey said:Wow.Lukyo said:God created the universe for His glorification. Everything happened for his Glory. Humans were created to glorify and worship Him and His Son. It's not an arrogant contradiction if that is the reason the universe exists. And if He is IN FACT the one and only God who rules over everything He deserves to be worshiped and glorified.
And yes, it is a contradiction. You didn't correct me, so I assume I'm right in saying that God is supposedly benevolent and transcends all our flaws?
If there were other Gods for Yahweh to compete with like in Greek mythology it would be arrogant. But if He is the only God then he have every right to want and create a universe with people to worship Him.Woodsey said:Now, with that in mind I want you to tell me what is more arrogant than creating a universe and a species JUST so that they can worship you. And then I want you to tell me how it is not contradictory that someone who in your mind is beyond human flaws can then do something as arrogant as that.
Just caught this thread but this is what I was gonna say. As a matter of fact this is what I always say when this question comes up.TheNamlessGuy said:Besides 42, to live.
Yes, the meaning of life is to live.
I mean, if you died, there wouldn't be a point to life, would there?
Once again, my flawless logic kicks ass.
So you are saying have fun and fix the glitches?iLikeHippos said:Still pondering. Still pondering...
I guess it's all just a very well designed game. I can't make sense of this world otherwise.
It just won't make sense...
But what is the purpose of meaning? Or the meaning of purpose? What is that purpose?gl1koz3 said:Life has no meaning. It has purpose.
I think you are pigeon-holing it too much but you are on the right track.Pyro Paul said:Death.
with out Death life has no meaning.
No, that makes it worse and makes it extreme narcissism or egotism. We were created to worship him? What that says is we were created to tell one "person" he is awesome.Lukyo said:Ah, I see. If there was more than one god then the God of the Bible would be egotistical, ego-maniacal, or even narcissistic. Of course if He is the one and only God I don't know if those words work either.
I'm playing as hard as I can!!!Onyx Oblivion said:Work hard, play harder.
PLAY HARDER, DAMN YOU!
I for one I'm tired of this level of condensation wherever I post.Azure-Supernova said:Did you even read what I typed? I didn't state the reason why we lived, I stated how we live. As in what laws we follow, our experiences and emotions. The manner in which everyone lives is different, but in one definitive word we are all living. Regardless of how we live, where we live or what we live for.Lukyo said:When we say 'living' we are expresing the manner in which we live not the reason way we live.
But if you just want the reason were are alive, or exist, everything in the universe exists to glorify God and His Son in one way or another. Especially the 'evil' stuff. And if the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus isn't enough proof I don't know what else to tell you.
I fail to see how life and death are proof of anything other than mortality. The resurrection of Jesus is debatable, as there is not definitive proof he ever was resurrected. But like I said, this isn't a religious debate, I'm trying to get a straight answer out of you but you seem bent on mixing your words with religion.
But without God there is no reason to consider each other equal.Azure-Supernova said:Okay, here's the point:Lukyo said:I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Everyone is equal because the all Holy and righteous God is the equalizer over all sinning and god-hating people.
You say we are all equal in God's eyes but then you said that there should not be a more general explanation for the meaning of life. So allow me to restate it as concicely as possible.
We are all equal therefore we are all subject to the same explanation of the meaning of our lives. But if we don't follow the teachings of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), we become exempt and have no place in the meaning of life? This then negates that everyone is equal as those that worship God are then held in higher favour than those who do not worship God.
. . . But God is awesome. No human person can compare to Him.crudus said:So you are saying have fun and fix the glitches?iLikeHippos said:Still pondering. Still pondering...
I guess it's all just a very well designed game. I can't make sense of this world otherwise.
It just won't make sense...
But what is the purpose of meaning? Or the meaning of purpose? What is that purpose?gl1koz3 said:Life has no meaning. It has purpose.
I think you are pigeon-holing it too much but you are on the right track.Pyro Paul said:Death.
with out Death life has no meaning.
No, that makes it worse and makes it extreme narcissism or egotism. We were created to worship him? What that says is we were created to tell one "person" he is awesome.Lukyo said:Ah, I see. If there was more than one god then the God of the Bible would be egotistical, ego-maniacal, or even narcissistic. Of course if He is the one and only God I don't know if those words work either.
I have a feeling you meant to say 'condescension'... unless you really are tired of the vapour in the air returning to its liquid form...Lukyo said:I for one I'm tired of this level of condensation wherever I post.
Do you understand the meaning of hypothetical? Are you reading and understanding the words I am typing on this page? Let me try once more.Lukyo said:But without God there is no reason to consider each other equal.
The reason we are equal is because God rules over us. Believers and non-believers alike.
Also God does not see humans identically. He knows everyone on the planet by name, from those He will raise up in His Son and those he will cased away.
Did you just compare Stan Lee to god and Spiderman to humanity? You are comparing fiction to a universe. It just doesn't work.Lukyo said:To say it is arrogant is like saying it is also arrogant for a story author to do what ever he wants to his stroy. If Stan Lee wanted to create a comic where Spider-Man would worship him Stan Lee has the right to do so. True that Copy might not sell well (or maybe it could if you present it correctly) but the idea still applies with God and His Creation. Big difference is He doesn't need to sell his idea to anyone.