Realistically, what do you think the year 2065 will be like from today? I hope that 50 years from now we will have self driving cars, 3D printers in homes, Augmented Reality, drones, moon base, humans on mars, and other various future tech. What do you think?
What will the year 2065 be like?
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In 50 years...there's a good chance I'll be alive to see the world of 2065. A world devoid of anybody named Deckard. A world devoid of Goblins, Trolls or Elves. I won't be living in a cyberpunk dystopia, the wealthy won't have been slaughtered for some stupid reason...Honestly, I don't think much will change if you're just looking around at the bigger picture. Same skylines, same highways, similar vehicles. The vehicles may drive themselves which would be fantastic though I don't know how the police departments of the future will like their speeding ticket money up and vanishing in the blink of an eye.
We may not have figured out FTL travel but maybe we'll at least have a manned orbital platform that's used primarily as a control tower for interplanetary vessels. There may not be a colony on Luna or Mars but I would at least hope there are remote-controlled drones on both bodies building up a base or, bases in preparation for human colonists.
We may not have figured out FTL travel but maybe we'll at least have a manned orbital platform that's used primarily as a control tower for interplanetary vessels. There may not be a colony on Luna or Mars but I would at least hope there are remote-controlled drones on both bodies building up a base or, bases in preparation for human colonists.
If I die before seeing even the building blocks of something like Starfleet, I will consider everything a failure.
Pretty much all that except the house-printers and the moonbase.
The date set on the delorean from the Back To The Future movie is set to sometime this year. They probably thought this future would have been all kinds of crazy. But we don't really have rocket cars and spaceships everywhere, do we? Neither cancer, nor the common cold got cured. All we've really got over the past is more computers and now all human interaction is done via cellphone, and both those things existed in the 80's. Black man being president is the craziest thing we have. Black men existed in the 80's too.
Don't expect 50 years from now to be too foreign. There'll still be poverty and people fighting over trivial shit. It'll be "the same 'cept" something.
The date set on the delorean from the Back To The Future movie is set to sometime this year. They probably thought this future would have been all kinds of crazy. But we don't really have rocket cars and spaceships everywhere, do we? Neither cancer, nor the common cold got cured. All we've really got over the past is more computers and now all human interaction is done via cellphone, and both those things existed in the 80's. Black man being president is the craziest thing we have. Black men existed in the 80's too.
Don't expect 50 years from now to be too foreign. There'll still be poverty and people fighting over trivial shit. It'll be "the same 'cept" something.
Depends. 50 years is a long time. Will there be a major conflict with a Western power? Will the wealth divide continue to eliminate any trace of the middle class? Will some of the proposed environmental disasters that people hypothesise about now be a reality? I think there's a whole lot of questions we don't really know the answer to, and if the 21st Century is anything like the 20th ... which is the only objective measure we really have ... then it might not be a technologically advanced Wonderland that people might romanticise.
In the last century we consumed half of the world's fossil fuels, and we are FURTHER away from feeding the world population now than we were back in the 40s and 50s.
For example, look at publications written 60 years ago hypothesising what was a futuristic image of the livelihoods we were supposedly to own for ourselves by the turn of the millenium, and that was back when we still had a thriving middle class. Technology increases only insofar as people wish to pay for it and make such technologies economically viable. The idea of the technological singularity assumes that there is the same amount of economic mobility then as if now.
If what we have seen from the 21st century is anything to go by, I expect that the USD will likely be replaced by basket currencies which may or may not be better for world trade depending on how peaceful the transition from one reserve currency to another. There's no way that the world can properly accomodate for the inflation that we've seen. Particularly given that were living much longer lives but ultimately our production per person is dropping far faster. If the 20th Century was the argument of labour vs. capital, this century will be the fight of capital vs. democratic systems. The problem is that both may not survive the ensuing chaos, in much the same way we had far too many close calls in the 20th century to massive collateral damage that would arguably be unsurvivable.
Of course that's not precluding the event by which we might achieve something better than both. Humans are remarkably resourceful when they need to be and they'll still be a whole lot of us come 2065 to mull over solutions to problems that we are too lazy to correct now. But I hold little hope that the 21st century will somehow be a safer, more prosperous century to live in than the last. There's nothing to suggest that we as a collection of cultures are anymore sympathetic, empathetic, or any more humane than those who lived and died in the 20th century. If anything, we're drowning in the problems of the world via mass media saturation and it seems to do little more than instill apathy. It may very well be a case where the ontological shock of the demise of human civilization will be realized only when the trigger has already been pulled.
Whilst this may seem an alarmist statement to make, consider the fact that you have scientists now (either rightly or wrongly) trying to shake the idea into us that the world is facing catastrophic ecological decay generates little more than a 'meh' from 99% of humanity.
(edit) Honestly, observing how security heavy, and how invasive various identification methods are getting ... including integrated poublic security devices that literally record all your metadata where you move, and what you buy, and your usual trip from home to work and back again ... then I kind of suspect that the Western world will likely go Gattaca. After all, it's cheaper to let security systems determine where all people are simultaneously and solve crimes that way than it is to have police merely patrolling about. I mean, look at Google ... it can literally build an effective behavioural profile on anyone that uses it on a daily basis.
So I suspect that divides in voter rhetoric and consumer choices will be predictable well in advance of any ballot box or initial public presentation of goods. Rendering the democratic process an exercise of targeted online advertisement and a mastery of behavioural psychology rather than any solid political philosophy in action.
In the last century we consumed half of the world's fossil fuels, and we are FURTHER away from feeding the world population now than we were back in the 40s and 50s.
For example, look at publications written 60 years ago hypothesising what was a futuristic image of the livelihoods we were supposedly to own for ourselves by the turn of the millenium, and that was back when we still had a thriving middle class. Technology increases only insofar as people wish to pay for it and make such technologies economically viable. The idea of the technological singularity assumes that there is the same amount of economic mobility then as if now.
If what we have seen from the 21st century is anything to go by, I expect that the USD will likely be replaced by basket currencies which may or may not be better for world trade depending on how peaceful the transition from one reserve currency to another. There's no way that the world can properly accomodate for the inflation that we've seen. Particularly given that were living much longer lives but ultimately our production per person is dropping far faster. If the 20th Century was the argument of labour vs. capital, this century will be the fight of capital vs. democratic systems. The problem is that both may not survive the ensuing chaos, in much the same way we had far too many close calls in the 20th century to massive collateral damage that would arguably be unsurvivable.
Of course that's not precluding the event by which we might achieve something better than both. Humans are remarkably resourceful when they need to be and they'll still be a whole lot of us come 2065 to mull over solutions to problems that we are too lazy to correct now. But I hold little hope that the 21st century will somehow be a safer, more prosperous century to live in than the last. There's nothing to suggest that we as a collection of cultures are anymore sympathetic, empathetic, or any more humane than those who lived and died in the 20th century. If anything, we're drowning in the problems of the world via mass media saturation and it seems to do little more than instill apathy. It may very well be a case where the ontological shock of the demise of human civilization will be realized only when the trigger has already been pulled.
Whilst this may seem an alarmist statement to make, consider the fact that you have scientists now (either rightly or wrongly) trying to shake the idea into us that the world is facing catastrophic ecological decay generates little more than a 'meh' from 99% of humanity.
(edit) Honestly, observing how security heavy, and how invasive various identification methods are getting ... including integrated poublic security devices that literally record all your metadata where you move, and what you buy, and your usual trip from home to work and back again ... then I kind of suspect that the Western world will likely go Gattaca. After all, it's cheaper to let security systems determine where all people are simultaneously and solve crimes that way than it is to have police merely patrolling about. I mean, look at Google ... it can literally build an effective behavioural profile on anyone that uses it on a daily basis.
So I suspect that divides in voter rhetoric and consumer choices will be predictable well in advance of any ballot box or initial public presentation of goods. Rendering the democratic process an exercise of targeted online advertisement and a mastery of behavioural psychology rather than any solid political philosophy in action.
Honestly, I don't think it'll be very different from right now, how we might do things will change, but we will be doing the same things then as we are now. I don't think we will be on Mars, or Venus, any time soon, and I don't think we will go back to the moon unless we find something of justifiable value there. Yeah, I'm not an optimist.
I assuming this-
Buildings will mostly be the same but with one or two new buildings.
Technologies will be even more advances.
There will still be conflict (shootings, feminism and some other "gate").
Small progess when it come to space exploration.
Buildings will mostly be the same but with one or two new buildings.
Technologies will be even more advances.
There will still be conflict (shootings, feminism and some other "gate").
Small progess when it come to space exploration.
I swear, if you come back in 50 years and edit this post, I'm will find you, and I will edit my post too. I might be dead by 2065 though (I'll be 73 at this time in 50 years).Frezzato said:
EDIT - Ha ha. I guess I misunderstood your vague post.
I think we'll have civilian trips to the moon as well as some lunar base(s). Maybe even a Mars base. Other technology (computers, mobiles, TVs, games) will probably advance as much as it has in the last 50 years
Well first of all, capitalism (as we know it, at least) needs to be scrapped or have a major overhaul. It's simply unsustainable and the richest people are essentially adding more and more weight to the top of a house of cards. Jobs are becoming fewer as many industries become automated and computers can do things humans can do for a fraction of the price within a fraction of the time with a fraction of the errors, and also they can do it 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Unless some new industries pop up in the next few decades, ones that specifically need human involvement, we're likely to see unemployment rates skyrocket and the chasm between rich and poor become wider.
One could argue that the greater amount of robotics would require more people to program, engineer and maintain them. But you know what the most efficient way to make a robot is? With another robot. What's the most efficient way of programming an AI? Make it able to learn things on its own. If fewer and fewer hours of work are required from people, what's the point of hiring? Sometimes you just have enough pairs of hands, you know?
So by 2065, what kind of economic model would the western world adapt to? If the only way to make a living is to work, but there's barely any work needed, what happens then?
One could argue that the greater amount of robotics would require more people to program, engineer and maintain them. But you know what the most efficient way to make a robot is? With another robot. What's the most efficient way of programming an AI? Make it able to learn things on its own. If fewer and fewer hours of work are required from people, what's the point of hiring? Sometimes you just have enough pairs of hands, you know?
So by 2065, what kind of economic model would the western world adapt to? If the only way to make a living is to work, but there's barely any work needed, what happens then?
Alot different, I mean seriously, fossil fuels will be getting rather scarce by that time so I expect a few wars over resources if a alternative has not been made viable, tech will have advanced quite a bit, and odds are there wont be enough jobs to go around (like thats not a thing already.....) and with that well welcome to poverty and homelessness land.
In other words, I have no idea. All I know is it will probably be shit.
In other words, I have no idea. All I know is it will probably be shit.
I predict that most people's predictions will be proven to be wrong.
People generally have had an unimpressive success rate with such predictions.
People generally have had an unimpressive success rate with such predictions.
About those "house-printers," , that's actually closer to the horizon than 2065.MHR said:
is that our technology will have at least started to become integrated with ourselves, making us more cyborgs than we already are.
is that humans will have visited Mars and may be Venus, and possibly set up a base on one of them,
This is meant as criticism not as an insult. When people say things like "Marx is stupid" without backing it up with evidence, the comments are seen as childish ad hominem attacks. Give us a reason to dismiss Karl Marx beyond what might just be a lingering bit of the "Red Scare" left in your mentality, or perhaps we should dismiss you.the silence said: