...B-Cell said:Why you guys derailed my intellectual intelligent thread?
Waaaaitaminute.
Does anyone else suspect what I suspect?
Because at this point I honestly can't tell.
...B-Cell said:Why you guys derailed my intellectual intelligent thread?
Because this is the Escapist, and you created a thread that asked people to voice opinions on the quality of pop culture things. To expect them to NOT derail your thread, and turn it into something cynical and ironic is optimistic, but naive.B-Cell said:Why you guys derailed my intellectual intelligent thread?
Jesus Christ you cant begin to imagine how much I laughed at the Edge lineAndy Shandy said:So much edge in here I heard "You think you know me".
Anyway my choice is probably Sonic '06. As someone who has been brought up through with the Sonic games, this was like watching him get him by a car. Then the car explodes and bursts into flames. And then neo-nazis come and piss on it to try and put it out. Music was still good, though.
Why not give Origin the same chance as you gave Steam? After all Valve are hardly consumer rights champions themselves.flying_whimsy said:Origin has actually kept me from playing a large number of games as I absolutely refuse to install that on my system. I missed out on DA 2+3, ME3, and will continue to miss out on upcoming stuff that I really wanted like Mirror's Edge "2". Yes, I use steam, and I wasn't thrilled when I first had to start using it back when half-life 2 came out and it was little more than always on drm. However, I got to watch as valve turned their tool into something considerably more: it's a lightweight, easy to use store that has only enhanced pc gaming (or filled it with crap, depending on how you view early access). Origin was just very obviously EA going 'more money for us!'
I agree, it really does kinda help to hammer home what long term drug and alcohol abuse does to someone, even if they are a badass like Max Payne.Ezekiel said:Yeah, and Max Payne was inspired by The Matrix (bullet time), noir films like The Maltese Falcon, as well as the movie Se7en and The Usual Suspects. To be honest, I actually found Max Payne 2 cliche the first time I played it.Happyninja42 said:Because this is the Escapist, and you created a thread that asked people to voice opinions on the quality of pop culture things. To expect them to NOT derail your thread, and turn it into something cynical and ironic is optimistic, but naive.
OT: Probably the Tomb Raider reboot, but my most personal disappointment would have to be Max Payne 3. I loved the MP series, and while I did appreciate Rockstar's attempt to make MP 3 be a video game version of Man on Fire (seriously, they even incorporated the "we'll put the dialogue on the screen while the characters say the words" schtick), it just didn't fit Max Payne. Plus they made him so mopey and depressed, it totally negated the cathartic ending of MP 2, where he was actually able to find some closure, and have at least something of a happy life.
If the game had been anything aside from Max Payne, and had just been "A video game version of Man on Fire", without the backstory of MP, I would've loved it. But they didn't actually do anything with Max's backstory in the game, so really what was the point, other than to simply cash in on the franchise dollars?
The music was good though. Love that title song Health, fucking awesome every time I hear it.
http://www.whoinspired.com/wiki/Max_Payne#cite_note-4
But when Rockstar decides to take inspiration elsewhere, it's bad somehow. The fact that Max Payne 2 had finality to it is exactly why they shouldn't have emulated the first two. It ended. They rightfully took a lot of the things that made Max Payne Max Payne but took it in a new direction. I did find it interesting that Max was so depressed after the last line in Max Payne 2, but not unbelievable.
Interesting, you and I came away from the final scene of MP 2 with totally different opinions on his mental state. From the imagery, the dialogue, it felt to me like, even though Mona had died, he had found a way to be at peace with himself. The final shot, is him being lit up with bright light (from the cops flashlights, but the imagery is bright), and you hear the cop say "It's Max! He's Alive!" Implying that he was now actually "alive" and not just sleep walking through misery. And then it goes into the song Late Goodbye, which always felt like a cathartic song to me. I didn't get the impression that he was going to continue his drug fueled bender that is implied with MP 3. Which is why it annoyed me so much. Though I agree MP 2 felt more cliche when it came out. I enjoyed the first game more, I think partly because of the potential for supernatural element of it, that was totally tossed to the side after the first game. Which I thought was sad, it added an interesting subtext to it, almost Twin Peaks, or In The Mouth of Madness-esque mood to it.Ezekiel said:Yeah, and Max Payne was inspired by The Matrix (bullet time), noir films like The Maltese Falcon, as well as the movie Se7en and The Usual Suspects. To be honest, I actually found Max Payne 2 cliche the first time I played it.Happyninja42 said:Because this is the Escapist, and you created a thread that asked people to voice opinions on the quality of pop culture things. To expect them to NOT derail your thread, and turn it into something cynical and ironic is optimistic, but naive.B-Cell said:Why you guys derailed my intellectual intelligent thread?
OT: Probably the Tomb Raider reboot, but my most personal disappointment would have to be Max Payne 3. I loved the MP series, and while I did appreciate Rockstar's attempt to make MP 3 be a video game version of Man on Fire (seriously, they even incorporated the "we'll put the dialogue on the screen while the characters say the words" schtick), it just didn't fit Max Payne. Plus they made him so mopey and depressed, it totally negated the cathartic ending of MP 2, where he was actually able to find some closure, and have at least something of a happy life.
If the game had been anything aside from Max Payne, and had just been "A video game version of Man on Fire", without the backstory of MP, I would've loved it. But they didn't actually do anything with Max's backstory in the game, so really what was the point, other than to simply cash in on the franchise dollars?
The music was good though. Love that title song Health, fucking awesome every time I hear it.
http://www.whoinspired.com/wiki/Max_Payne#cite_note-4
But when Rockstar decides to take inspiration elsewhere, it's bad somehow. The fact that Max Payne 2 had finality to it is exactly why they shouldn't have emulated the first two. It ended. They rightfully took a lot of the things that made Max Payne Max Payne but took it in a new direction. I did find it interesting that Max was so depressed after the last line in Max Payne 2, but not unbelievable.
I actually had it as the download manager back in the day, and I was fine with it being what it was. It had the misfortune of just screaming cash grab when it was released. I already had to abandon all of my ubisoft games because uplay broke so bad I can't even re-install it; not going to bother with EA's little bit of spyware.votemarvel said:Why not give Origin the same chance as you gave Steam? After all Valve are hardly consumer rights champions themselves.
Origin has moved on a lot from its old days as the EA Download Manager and feature wise isn't that far behind Steam.
in the end it is silly to miss out on games because of a download manager when you accept one from another company.