When villains lose their cool (spoilers)

Meestor Pickle

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No mention of Hades from Hercules? Interesting.

I imagine most people have seen him at some stage, I know there is an avatar of him floating around here somewhere but when I think suave villain I think of him first, several times after hearing his schemes aren't quite working he flares up but usually gets him back under control.
 

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It's a little off as an example but
The crazy brothers breakdown at the end of episode 2 is pretty interesting, especially how desperately he cries Lee's name if you let him live. (It's around 9:10)

 

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I always love seeing a character pushed to the edge, and with villains it doesn't break the narrative to send them right over it. While I don't mind the sudden bit of madness at the end when all of their plans fall apart or whatever (Simon Phoenix in Demolition Man has a great moment towards the end where you can tell he's just frustrated beyond belief that he can't kill his nemesis), my favorite is watching a villain spiral out of control over an extended period (Fight Club is great for that at many levels).

My absolute favorite villain that loses their cool, though? Judge Frollo in Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame. A man with more power than anyone else, he is defined by the clash between his desires and his religious beliefs. He overcompensates with zealous use of his power, but it's never enough and he eventually razes the city and the people turn on him. I like that rather than snap because he is losing his power, his own inability to reconcile with his base desires drives him to use that power in more and more extravagant (and violent) ways.

TL,DR: Judge Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame spends pretty much the entire movie losing his cool and it's awesome.
 

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Saltyk said:
Well, I can think of one. In DBZ, during the Namek Arc, Vegeta steals all of Frieza's Dragon Balls, kills Zarbon and takes another from Krillen, and then returns to where he had hid his last one. Only to find that it was gone.

That all leads to this scene (Best done in the Ocean Dub, in my opinion).
Personally, I think Team Four Star did it better.

The only complaint I have about DBZA is the atrocious update speed. But I don't bother voicing this complaint to them because
A) They hear it a lot
B) The quality of their work is fantastic and I wouldn't want them to compromise that by rushing the episodes.


I'm trying to think of a good villainous breakdown, but I'm really struggling. Uhm, pass?
 

lord canti

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May not be losing their cool, but it was strange seeing Nefripitou, from Hunter x Hunter, going from being sadistic and terrifying, to someone who is begging for mercy. Also the chimera ant king from the same show has had a couple good breakdowns.
 

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Lord Bale from the original 40k Dawn of war. Guy loses his shit.

 

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In a couple of the Nightmare of Elm street movie (cant remember which, apart from the first 3 and the remake) Freddy appears to be defeated and loses the cocky, confident personality that comes with having god-like powers. But then he somehow returns, revealing that it was all just an act. He eventually does get defeated, but by that point i still believed it was just another trick.
 

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Techno Squidgy said:
Saltyk said:
Well, I can think of one. In DBZ, during the Namek Arc, Vegeta steals all of Frieza's Dragon Balls, kills Zarbon and takes another from Krillen, and then returns to where he had hid his last one. Only to find that it was gone.

That all leads to this scene (Best done in the Ocean Dub, in my opinion).
[Snipped my own Youtube clip]​
Personally, I think Team Four Star did it better.

The only complaint I have about DBZA is the atrocious update speed. But I don't bother voicing this complaint to them because
A) They hear it a lot
B) The quality of their work is fantastic and I wouldn't want them to compromise that by rushing the episodes.


I'm trying to think of a good villainous breakdown, but I'm really struggling. Uhm, pass?
Oh, TFS did it wonderfully. Because they are awesome. But I was thinking of serious versions. That was a parody.

And, in their defense, they all still have jobs and social lives. And each member lives far away from one another. They make no money on the show, legally they can't monetize it, and very little on shirts and such. However, it seems they are trying to rectify all that. It's one reason they are pushing all the new side content while making sure it doesn't affect the show itself.

Besides, they update more than Yugioh Abridged.
 

lord canti

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How has Kefka not been mentioned? Sure he was always insane, but the complete breakdown he had while you fought him a beautifully done. I'd also like to add Annie from attack on titan to the list.
 

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BanicRhys said:
This still hurts to watch.


Although, Mikami's sudoku attempt is still hilarious.
Its actually called Seppuku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku]. Sudoku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku] is the game involving numbers and squares... I watched that whole clip waiting for someone to be playing that game... Which seems quite funny really...

Also, yes, Mikami's attempt is a fucking riot. Gotta love the effects of high blood-pressure.
 

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WanderingFool said:
BanicRhys said:
This still hurts to watch.


Although, Mikami's sudoku attempt is still hilarious.
Its actually called Seppuku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku]. Sudoku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku] is the game involving numbers and squares... I watched that whole clip waiting for someone to be playing that game... Which seems quite funny really...

Also, yes, Mikami's attempt is a fucking riot. Gotta love the effects of high blood-pressure.
I enjoyed the way they did it in the manga better. It was nice seeing everything fall down around light, including being betrayed by ryuk and mikami.
 

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lord canti said:
WanderingFool said:
BanicRhys said:
This still hurts to watch.


Although, Mikami's sudoku attempt is still hilarious.
Its actually called Seppuku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku]. Sudoku [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku] is the game involving numbers and squares... I watched that whole clip waiting for someone to be playing that game... Which seems quite funny really...

Also, yes, Mikami's attempt is a fucking riot. Gotta love the effects of high blood-pressure.
I enjoyed the way they did it in the manga better. It was nice seeing everything fall down around light, including being betrayed by ryuk and mikami.
Yeah, the anime messed up by giving Light a shred of dignity at the end. In the manga he is stripped of everything and dies like a dog which is exactly what he deserves.
 

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I would say Pouf from Hunter X Hunter fits the bill. On first appearance he looks calm and composed, but really is just very mentally unstable, his loyalty to the Ant King, along with his ant instincts makes his loyalty border on fanaticism

And eventually after a certain event occurs, we are treated to this lovely image

 

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It is more satisfying than anything I can name seeing her get hurt, scared, or upset. Because she's so incredibly fake and psychotic, when bad things happen to her it's a satisfying spectacle as we see just how Fucking insane she is. That and we see that when she's pushed against a wall, all of her strength and insanity are just smoke and mirrors, and in reality she's a repulsive abomination who has a complete lack of awareness for her own miserable existence until she's forced to acknowledge it.
You posted this yesterday...have you seen the latest episode now? XD
 

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Saltyk said:
Techno Squidgy said:
The only complaint I have about DBZA is the atrocious update speed. But I don't bother voicing this complaint to them because
A) They hear it a lot
B) The quality of their work is fantastic and I wouldn't want them to compromise that by rushing the episodes.


I'm trying to think of a good villainous breakdown, but I'm really struggling. Uhm, pass?
Oh, TFS did it wonderfully. Because they are awesome. But I was thinking of serious versions. That was a parody.

And, in their defense, they all still have jobs and social lives. And each member lives far away from one another. They make no money on the show, legally they can't monetize it, and very little on shirts and such. However, it seems they are trying to rectify all that. It's one reason they are pushing all the new side content while making sure it doesn't affect the show itself.

Besides, they update more than Yugioh Abridged.
Ah, I see. I couldn't give a definite opinion on any of the official dubs, it's been a loooooooooong time since I actually watched DBZ. I seem to recall preferring the Ocean dub, some of the VA was amazing, some was awful, while Funi managed to maintain pretty solid in the okay-good range. However, my memory is none too reliable.

Yeah, I'm aware of the situation, doesn't mean it's not frustrating being a fan sometimes. I'd love to fund them so they could just crank out the show without worrying about needing to eat and stuff, but sadly I don't possess anywhere near enough money to do that. Would Yugioh Abridged be worth watching for someone who never got into Yugioh when it was popular, or does it lean heavily on familiarity with the series?
 

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Hands down, the best example I can think of is Avatar.

It helps that Azula always appeared cool and collected, it was her defining trait. Then, in the end, you begin to realize how off kilter her psyche really is. You see lack of self esteem, her guilt, and her desire to be loved by her mother. All these things existed before, but the audience didn't realize it until the end. After several betrayals, you begin to see the cracks in her persona, until everything comes crashing down around her, and she's writhing around on the floor like something filthy, disgusting, and pathetic.

It also turns the whole series into a family tragedy. Zuko wasn't the only character struggling to earn a parents approval. The psychological impact of his fathers actions tore everyone apart. It was a surprisingly mature theme for a childrens show, and it was a side plot that far exceeded the main plot.

Oh man is that a good one. The final moments of A:TLA were powerful. Azula losing it in the wake of Sozin's Comet was a fitting end, but when she was faced with something she couldn't handle it just all came crashing down. So well written and well executed.

But my personal favorite bit from the finale was Uncle Iroh's arc coming to it's close. His realizations and pondering on the field of battle were... I can't believe I'm saying this about a Nick show... profound. How he is ready to stop evil at all costs, even though it means the destruction of many of his own family, it's heavy stuff.

That show works on so many levels. I watched it with my daughter and it's one of those rare moments when we were both enjoying the same thing to the same degree.
 

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Techno Squidgy said:
Would Yugioh Abridged be worth watching for someone who never got into Yugioh when it was popular, or does it lean heavily on familiarity with the series?
Considering that's how I got my cousins into Yugioh, I would say yes... especially the first two "seasons" of Yugioh Abridged...

OT: The true villian in Tales of Symphonia...
Mithos first comes off as the type of character who has compassion for everyone and wishes he could help everyone out to the best of his abilities... Too bad that soon becomes his alibi as he's only using the chosens to become an all-powerful angel and ruler of Derris-Kharian...

He does all this because he feels that's the only way to save both worlds, not realizing that he as gone power-mad and causing more harm than "good"... (Plus, he has his own evil laugh...)
 

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ALL the villains in Tomb Raider 3.

Tony seems a bit weird yet harmless when you first meet him, but goes clean off the hostile deep end when he gets the artifact.

Sophia Lee, when you first meet her, treats you as a potential employee. When you reveal that you know what happened to her last batch of employees, she promptly starts trying to shoot you down with her artifact, cackling all the way.

Willard seems like a decent guy at first, but when Lara reacts to his plan of "Evolve Everyone In The World Horrifically" with all the expected horror, he suddenly flips a table in her face and fires a gun at her.

Heck, even Puna, who we only meet during his boss battle, is implied to be a normal tribesman before he went completely off his meds after getting, you guessed it, his artifact...

I don't know why Lara wants those artifacts, really.
 

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Kitsune Hunter said:
I would say Pouf from Hunter X Hunter fits the bill. On first appearance he looks calm and composed, but really is just very mentally unstable, his loyalty to the Ant King, along with his ant instincts makes his loyalty border on fanaticism

And eventually after a certain event occurs, we are treated to this lovely image

Truth be told all of the main chimera ants have had wonderful break downs.I loved the kings emotional break down after seeing komugi getting attacked by the hawk.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Zant from Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, except there it ruins the character.

Throughout the whole game he carries himself with cool confidence, and then near the end just goes batshit crazy for no reason. Well, the only reason being that he needs to pave the way for Gannon. It's like the game's way of saying 'Sorry Zant, but Gannon is the main baddy in every one of these damn games. So I'm afraid we're demoting you to wacky sub-villain.'

Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a good one though.
See, I always liked what was done with Zant. Whilst wearing the mask of the Twilight King, he is able to come across as a collected, if ruthless ruler. It's only when the mask is removed that his true nature is revealed. It also helps to show his position as a puppet, and that there is a darker power guiding his actions.

That said, I still think a better job could have been done foreshadowing Ganondorf's appearance; the only hint you get of his involvement is after Zant starts going crazy, which is a little too late to give any real sense of foreboding.