well at the end of ffXII and dissidia on there credits they thank all of there dedicated fans, I find that pleasing
Which company do you feel cares the most about their fans?
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Maybe Atlus. A guy told a story one time of how another guy was bashing an Atlus game, and this guy was basically like, 'hey man, don't bash it until you try it, Atlus is great, blah, etc'. Someone from Atlus got a hold of him, asked him for his address, and sent him [insert game here] with the walkthrough, as appreciation for what he did and being a fan. That's pretty fucking cool in my eyes.Arsen said:
Valve has "elevated" mods and modders to become official Valve projects and devs. CS, Portal, even the original HL Team Fortress. And they let these guys stay true to their original vision instead of stomping in and taking over.
If that isn't a service to their community, I don't know what is.
If that isn't a service to their community, I don't know what is.
I'd say a little of both. The surefire stuff (like Persona) has the goodies, but even the more obscure games like Master of the Monster Lair and Etrian Odyseey had nothing, and I still bought them anyway since they were solid titles with little to no chance coming out here.squid5580 said:
Atlus is still a company, they have the right to make money just like the rest of us.
Now I'm not saying Atlus is the shining beacon of caring for their fans (although I don't think Valve is either) but you know, I think they do a swell job.
Activision. Seeing as they pump out Guitar Hero games and Call of Duty games like Nadya Suleman pumping out kids like she's got a portal to another dimension in her snatch.
I'm obviously joking of course. I think Bungie is without a doubt, the most fanbase involved company of this generation. They've listened to their fans, and continually improve on a lot of their games. Add their perfect track record of Myth, ONI, Marathon, and who could forget? The Halo games (with the exception of Halo Wars being developed by Ensemble.),and you have one of the best companies in gaming.
I'm obviously joking of course. I think Bungie is without a doubt, the most fanbase involved company of this generation. They've listened to their fans, and continually improve on a lot of their games. Add their perfect track record of Myth, ONI, Marathon, and who could forget? The Halo games (with the exception of Halo Wars being developed by Ensemble.),and you have one of the best companies in gaming.
Oh don't get me wrong I am happy when I hear a half decent company has enough money they can swim in it like Scrooge McDuck. Just like I am pleased to hear a crap company goes under. I just don't think any company make games and DLC because they care about us. They care about the money we bring.ila said:
Preorder swag and special edition crap is awesome. Hell I bought Overlord 2 just because I got a imp figurine with it. I had full intentions on just renting it but the figurine was just so cool I couldn't resist. If they cared about me they wouldn't have included those figurines and let me rent it for a fraction of the cost. Since they care about my money and not me it was a brilliant move and I can't complain.
I have to say Valve. For such a big fanbase, they do really well to please our every whim. At the other end of the spectrum, there's Epic Games. They're good at MAKING games, but make no effort at all to listen to their fanbase. In the first Gears, there were loads of glitches exploited on a large scale (crabwalking being the worst offender), and it really did kill the multiplayer sometimes. But they did nothing at all.
To be quite frank about it we really don't have a choice other than to agree to disagree. Niether one of us can ever come close to being right or wrong. There is just to many factors involved to boil it down to a yes or no answer. A company has 100 employees easy. And not all of those 100 people are going to be doing this for the same reasons. Employee # 34 is doing it for a paycheck every week. Employee # 48 is the graphics guy. And he has a rival graphic guy who works for another company. So the main reason he cares is because he wants to show up the other guy. The CEO cares about at least breaking even.ila said:
Funny thing is I have no idea why we are discussing this in the first place. I don't think it really matters if a company truly cares about us or not. If you listen to half the interviews for any bad game they sound like they care. The same with any good game. Caring about us doesn't always equal a good game.
It's about more than staying alive in the marketplace, it's about the bottom line. The board will do whatever it can to make the most money for its shareholders, that's just the nature of all business. They're going to charge as much as they can get away with while spending as little as they can get away with. Having the ability to have a good relationship with the fans has more to do with good pr than actually being fair and reliable.RemoteControlRox said:
Just look at the prime examples:
Gamestop is one of the most worthless places to shop in, it has the worst trade in-to used price ratio, and most of the stores demand that you pre-order (give them money ahead of time) a game if you want to get it when it lunches. For some reason, people love the place; they'll even pay full price for a game months before they can go pick it up. That's just insane.
Same with the 360. Some 360 owners have the unfortunate attitude of a battered housewife. The machine breaks and some of them blame themselves: "It's not MS's fault; I was playing too much so I guess I deserve it."
The reasons these companies are able to move so many units is PR, they get involved in the consumer's life because they know that's the best way to siphon off more money. Now I'm not saying that every 360 owner is a sucker (hell, I may even be joining your ranks soon) or that everyone who walks into gamestop is a sucker (just most) but you are a sucker if they were able to convince you to pay full price for a game months before you get it or got so involved in your life that you have to buy a backup console while you send your original off to be repaired.
Indeed you are right, when it comes down to it its about what games are brought out. Atlus USA is willing to bring over Dokopan Kingdom and Super Robot Taisen? Great. Valve keeps giving us TF2 updates? Awesome! Square decides not to bring over any international versions of games and take a year to localize a title? Blegh.squid5580 said:
Cataclysm is making WoW the most casual mmorpg you can imagine now... classes were lore bound, not some random crap like it's now. Tauren Paladin, seriously?D4zZ said:Cataclysm? How do you think that is going to fuck it up? Apart from in game the worlds literally going to get broken and fucked up.Freakydemon said:
I'd say Valve, out of all the games I play regularly and know about anyway.
Also there is no phasing so the world doesn't change before your eyes and it changes if you buy the expansion or not, so new players or alts will never experience the old content. Their engine can't handle all the phasing. Also they just gave WoW to some B-team to keep making expansions, etc... the old team allready left to work on the other Blizzard Projects.
That's why WoW is totally fucked up by Cataclysm.
