The server admin, always.Zipzip the Penguin said:
Any game, any player, any time, he or she can wipe out, they have whatever abilities you have and also the ability to control in game reality, they win.
Alternatively Samus Aran.
Who is the most powerful soldier in gaming?
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Any game, any player, any time, he or she can wipe out, they have whatever abilities you have and also the ability to control in game reality, they win.
Alternatively Samus Aran.
I think the only proper way to determine this is to look at each soldier's resume of accomplishments. And with that in mind, it's hard to stack up against the accomplishments of Master Chief and Commander Shepard.
So if those two are the top contenders (at least by my count), then the deciding factor would become HOW they achieved those accomplishments. Master Chief is a solo-machine, singlehandedly curb-stomping everything in his path and wading through warzones with nothing but an AI voice in his head giving him tactical advice and hacking stuff for him. Commander Shepard, on the other hand, only accomplished his great achievements (with the exception of the background story ones) with the help of a kick-ass squad at his side. So all things being even, it'd be Commander Shepard with AI EDI's assistance (as opposed to Mecha EDI) vs Master Chief with Cortana's assistance.
MC still did a lot more with only an AI to help him and Shepard, even with EDI's help, still had a crack-squad with him.
As such, if you ask me, the trophy goes to MC.
So if those two are the top contenders (at least by my count), then the deciding factor would become HOW they achieved those accomplishments. Master Chief is a solo-machine, singlehandedly curb-stomping everything in his path and wading through warzones with nothing but an AI voice in his head giving him tactical advice and hacking stuff for him. Commander Shepard, on the other hand, only accomplished his great achievements (with the exception of the background story ones) with the help of a kick-ass squad at his side. So all things being even, it'd be Commander Shepard with AI EDI's assistance (as opposed to Mecha EDI) vs Master Chief with Cortana's assistance.
MC still did a lot more with only an AI to help him and Shepard, even with EDI's help, still had a crack-squad with him.
As such, if you ask me, the trophy goes to MC.
Technically Luke was given a commission in the New Republic so he is a kind of a soldier and was incredibly powerful, with other Jedi saying he was a blur of lightning and force powers whilst taking on the Vong. Also The Jedi in the Old Republic were made Generals. Plus going back to the beginning of the Republic with Sith vs Jedi wars, there powers and abilities out shine any Jedi from film timeline's.Guffe said:
Would have to say Doomguy, seeing as he single handily saved mankind from Deamon invasion on many occasions and he isn't even a Pysker
Space Marines hands down. Master Chief and Prophet from Cysis are weak compared to them. The games don't even do them justice Space Marines are as lightning fast as Master Chief and Prophet as well as stronger. Not to mention regenerative abilities.
There is quite literally no competition between anything and an average Space marine from Warhammer 40k.
However if you then bring in Matt Ward's version of Ultramarines or the emperor forbid Gulliman the Ultramarine Primarch then you are pretty fucked at that point no matter who you are,
The equivalent of pretty much anyone else from a different game to the warhammer 40k universe would probably be a fairly high ranking Imperial Guardsman like Caiphus Caine or Gunnery Seargent Harker or even Guardsman Marbo. They might if they are extremely good and have an intelligence level comparable to that of Lelouch from Code Geass be almost as good as Commander of the Cadians Castellan Creed.
However if you then bring in Matt Ward's version of Ultramarines or the emperor forbid Gulliman the Ultramarine Primarch then you are pretty fucked at that point no matter who you are,
The equivalent of pretty much anyone else from a different game to the warhammer 40k universe would probably be a fairly high ranking Imperial Guardsman like Caiphus Caine or Gunnery Seargent Harker or even Guardsman Marbo. They might if they are extremely good and have an intelligence level comparable to that of Lelouch from Code Geass be almost as good as Commander of the Cadians Castellan Creed.
All of them and none of them.
Comparing the fictional and arbitrary rules of one game's universe (and their characters) to another just results in arbitrary comparisons.
Or in other words: "fan-wankery".
If I were to engage in fan-wankery...off the top of my head is Samus Aran.
Though I'm sure if I gave it some thought, I could find something positively ridiculous.
(Warhammer 40k probably has a few dozen "soldiers" with complete Deus Ex Machina powers)
Comparing the fictional and arbitrary rules of one game's universe (and their characters) to another just results in arbitrary comparisons.
Or in other words: "fan-wankery".
If I were to engage in fan-wankery...off the top of my head is Samus Aran.
Though I'm sure if I gave it some thought, I could find something positively ridiculous.
(Warhammer 40k probably has a few dozen "soldiers" with complete Deus Ex Machina powers)
Master Chief from Halo.
And I actually despise the character for this reason
When a character can be dropped from the upper atmosphere and shrug it off as if it was nothing, then it becomes the superman syndrome of the character being utterly boring due to his invincibility.
I mean jeez, not even a 40k space marine can survive such a drop, so when you start to make 40k look more plausible there really is something wrong.
Doomguy will always take my vote for most badass though, since he doesnt need fancy power armor or genetic modifications to go through litteral hell and not come out insane.
I suppose Samus deserves an honorable mention but like doomguy, she is out of her league when it comes to sheer OPness.
And I actually despise the character for this reason
When a character can be dropped from the upper atmosphere and shrug it off as if it was nothing, then it becomes the superman syndrome of the character being utterly boring due to his invincibility.
I mean jeez, not even a 40k space marine can survive such a drop, so when you start to make 40k look more plausible there really is something wrong.
Doomguy will always take my vote for most badass though, since he doesnt need fancy power armor or genetic modifications to go through litteral hell and not come out insane.
I suppose Samus deserves an honorable mention but like doomguy, she is out of her league when it comes to sheer OPness.
Any of the Primarchs from the various Space Marine Chapters in Warhammer 40k, They are soldiers, very high rank soldiers, but soldiers all the same. They are a step above even Master Chief, created from scratch by the Emperor of Man, equipped with the best armor and weaponry, with a legion of Ten Thousand Space Marines behind them.
At least one of them has personally faced down an Eldar Avatar of Khaine, which is one of the Eldar gods brought into reality, Primarch Horus, faced down an Ork Warboss at the height of a Waaagh! which is when a warboss has his most power due to their, mystical.. "Power", which seems to allow orks to do things normally impossible, like make any of their equipment work.
At least one of them has personally faced down an Eldar Avatar of Khaine, which is one of the Eldar gods brought into reality, Primarch Horus, faced down an Ork Warboss at the height of a Waaagh! which is when a warboss has his most power due to their, mystical.. "Power", which seems to allow orks to do things normally impossible, like make any of their equipment work.
Jigglypuff: seriously not trolling here, but out of all the these fictional typical masculine characters, getting beat down by jiggly puff in super smash bros is demoralizing and thus dangerous
Master chief, 'nuff said. It's hard to argue with nuclear powered armor and reflexes faster than bullets.
All these dumb Mon-keigh and their Space Marines.
Actually I think Space Marines are the best 'soldiers' but only because Eldar are more warriors than soldiers. A slight difference but a difference all the same.
Actually I think Space Marines are the best 'soldiers' but only because Eldar are more warriors than soldiers. A slight difference but a difference all the same.
