Why All the Hate on Naruto?

Thaius

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I know threads about why someone else does or doesn't like something I do or don't like are abundant, but this is one I just really don't understand, and I'd be interested to know why. Personally, it?s not my favorite anime, but I love it anyway. It?s a fantastic coming-of-age story with interesting, strategic battles and well-developed characters that are easy to care deeply about.

It?s fine not to like it, of course; you are entitled to your tastes. But the anime community seems to largely consider Naruto the quintessential example of a terrible, overrated anime, like it?s the cool thing to hate, and I just don?t understand that.

A common complaint I?ve heard is about the filler, but the fact is this is not sufficient reason to decry the show?s quality, mainly because it is simply the lesser of two evils. Shows like Full Metal Alchemist and Death Note, while both amazing shows, amount to disappointing endings because they just did their own thing when they caught up with the manga. Naruto instead takes the approach of making a filler arc when it catches up to the manga on which it?s based, in order to let the manga get ahead enough for the anime to adapt it. Filler is necessary in order to keep the show running while allowing the show to still follow the story of its source material. That?s far better than just going off on its own and eventually ending disappointingly.

Beyond that, if you hate the filler, skip it. The rest of the show is great, even if some of the filler really isn?t; something such as filler, which is made specifically so it can be easily skipped, simply does not speak to the quality of the show as a whole.

I?ve heard plenty about the constant flashbacks and monologues, but it?s really only a little more excessive than most everything that comes out of Japan. They love that stuff. When a character realizes something important, or has a moment of self-reflection, they will monologue about it. That?s how it works; the vast majority of anime and JRPGs consist largely of this inner dialogue. So I don?t understand how this can be an argument against one particular show without being an argument against the entire artistic culture (which I think we can all agree would be a bit ethno-centric).

These are just my thoughts; anyone care to share what it is that apparently makes this show so terrible?

EDIT: The English dub is also a weak argument (though it is awful). Don't complain if what amounts to an American vocal adaptation is sub-par, just watch the original.
 

PureChaos

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firstly, FRIENDLY MUSHROOM

and i love Naruto, it's may favourite anime. sure there are a lot of filler episodes but the rest of it is pure awesomeness
 

Tay051173096

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It the amount of filler thats seen as the problem same as bleach, from ep 1 to 200 ish is 27 books, that alot of stuff extra to get to the cool bits in the book

Me? I love the concept dislike the actual product. The guy uses the same moves all the time, hell his teacher knows more than 1000 and he can't teach him one oh dear...

Shrugs if you like it look into the fan fiction side lots of different views there.
 

Soviet Heavy

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It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
Noooooo you watched the dub how could you!!! Watch with subs or you ear will burn...
 

Tiger Sora

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Filler is the main problem. It's fun if an anime just goes off randomly for one episode for some shenanigans. But when it constantly goes on, not fun at all. Bleach has this problem to, which is why years ago I'd stopped watching it when they got into the soul reaper city.

naruto I think I'd watched 2 seasons and just quit.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Tay051173096 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
Noooooo you watched the dub how could you!!! Watch with subs or you ear will burn...
Listen, I know the sub vs dub argument inside and out. Despite efforts by people to insist watching in the original language, the vast majority still only watch in the language they speak.
 

Wolfenbarg

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It's an easy target because it's not structured as well as it could be. I've never seen an anime dip into outright shit and then come back with something so excellent that you wonder if it's even the same show. The first series starts with two seasons that don't seem to be headed anywhere very quickly before finally coming into its own in the third and becoming something that is not only worth watching, but really damned good at the same time. The second series starts off excellent from the very beginning, but as you said has massive filler gaps so the manga can progress and they can keep following it. I love the show, but it is pretty damned alienating to newcomers.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Tay051173096 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
Noooooo you watched the dub how could you!!! Watch with subs or you ear will burn...
Listen, I know the sub vs dub argument inside and out. Despite efforts by people to insist watching in the original language, the vast majority still only watch in the language they speak.
I must say that is probably right in USA but Im not so sure if that is competely correct if you look at EU/asia but I could be wrong..

For an example.. I do no like to watch movies/series in Swedish since it just doesnt feel right and very few people can actually sound "badass" in Swedish (Imo)


OT: I like Naruto but Im starting to rage over all the fillers, same with Bleach.
 

attackshark

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the animation is crap. utter crap. it's actually painful to watch.

the pacing is also terrible. it's paced like a manga, but it's not a manga. it's an animated show. it needs to be paced like an animated show.

and they talk way too much. they spend so much time explaining things that hardly anything actually happens in the current episode. animation is all about telling a story through movement and action; Naruto does none of that. i've got a drinking game for you: every time they use stock footage from a previous episode, take a drink (pro tip: you're going to be completely smashed by the end of the 22 minute episode).

I don't know who made the call, but someone decided that, aside from filler episodes, they needed to follow the comic panel for panel. this was a mistake. what they really needed to do was pump a decent amount of money into it and hire a decent producer and keep Kishimoto away from his own property, at least in terms of television direction. i'm not even sure it would have been a good idea to let him write the episodes/movies / follow his manga script exactly. he's great with character design; that's clearly his thing, and he takes the story to interesting places. but they should keep him at arms length for the television show.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Tubezz said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Tay051173096 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
Noooooo you watched the dub how could you!!! Watch with subs or you ear will burn...
Listen, I know the sub vs dub argument inside and out. Despite efforts by people to insist watching in the original language, the vast majority still only watch in the language they speak.
I must say that is probably right in USA but Im not so sure if that is competely correct if you look at EU/asia but I could be wrong..

For an example.. I do no like to watch movies/series in Swedish since it just doesnt feel right and very few people can actually sound "badass" in Swedish (Imo)
I'm Canadian, but that doesn't really matter. North America is still the largest individual consumer of anime outside of Japan itself, so most people have only watched the dubs.

Of course, dubs can still be funny, like the Swedish Digimon.
 

attackshark

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also, what kind of society allows an orphan boy to live in his own apartment? and they're shocked when he acts like a delinquent?
 

AwesomeNinjaPowers

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I don't hate Naruto. I don't personally like it either because it's not to my taste.

What I hate are the Narutard fans who won't shut up about it and genrally give the rest of use Anime/Manga fans a bad name.

But I have no actual hate for Naruto.
 

Tubezz

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Soviet Heavy said:
Tubezz said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Tay051173096 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
It might have something to do with some rather shitty animation, a bridge battle that lasts for way too many episodes, and a godawful english dub.
Noooooo you watched the dub how could you!!! Watch with subs or you ear will burn...
Listen, I know the sub vs dub argument inside and out. Despite efforts by people to insist watching in the original language, the vast majority still only watch in the language they speak.
I must say that is probably right in USA but Im not so sure if that is competely correct if you look at EU/asia but I could be wrong..

For an example.. I do no like to watch movies/series in Swedish since it just doesnt feel right and very few people can actually sound "badass" in Swedish (Imo)
I'm Canadian, but that doesn't really matter. North America is still the largest individual consumer of anime outside of Japan itself, so most people have only watched the dubs.

Of course, dubs can still be funny, like the Swedish Digimon.
Yeah, dubs can be funny sometimes.

But I really believe its a cultural thing since I do not know anybody that prefers dubs over subbed versions and that might be since pretty much all our tv shows are subbed already and we have gotten used to it.

I'm not saying subbed or dubbed version if better since it depends on the person watching the show.
 

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My friend is really into it and often gets mad when take the piss out of it, I watch it now and then however i never got into it, my main grievance with it is the fights go on way too long and the story is all over the place. I think alot of people hate the whole, the teenagers are better fighters than the ones with experience, which is what alot of anime suffer from.
 

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I tried watching Naruto but just couldn't get into it. It had an extremely slow start (or it was massively overhyped by my friends.) and I just couldn't stick with it. I don't know why everyone else hates it though, probably because it's the Call of Duty of Manga/Anime.
 

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I tried to watch this a while back but just couldn't go far. Main problem for me is that the main character Naruto is a obnoxious brat with little redeeming quality. Also making normally awesome ninjas (aka silent assassins) look like a loud screaming buffoons is not a good thing.
 

Dracowrath

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Filler only becomes a problem when you have 100 issues of the manga to catch up to, and instead of focusing on the actual story, going off and doing more filler. If you're caught up with the manga, filler is acceptable. If not, it's just retarded.