Wasn't Jesus' best girl, Mary, a prostitute? I would have thought prostitution would be some sort of sacred job in Christianity because of that.
Why are Christians against prostitution?
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Not sure if serious, but Mary is hardly a prostitute. Prostitution is more for sexual intercourse rather than conception, and Mary is a case of "immaculate conception." I'm pretty sure if you go through the Bible, there's quite a bit of stuff that could put you off prostitution.
...slow day?
...slow day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_MagdaleneHawki said:
(Ok, yeah, that article straight away says that the Catholic Church says that was a mistake, but it's still a popular one)
But, generally speaking, being a Christian for a great many people is not about being like Jesus was or told people to be.
In that they got rid of R&P, not really. Though, most R&P stuff is current R&P so goes in Current Events, just not so much this.Marik2 said:
Huh, I never knew it wasn't actually true. Granted most of my religious education comes from Jesus Christ Superstar. Guess there's just too many Marys in the bible for anyone to keep track of.Thaluikhain said:
This. It's not exactly a 'current' topic. It's not politics either for that matter.Thaluikhain said:
It was such a bloody stupid idea to call the forum Current Events. Now all the Religion and Politics shite that isn't current starts oozing back into Off Topic again.Drathnoxis said:
Currently, on the first page of Off-Topic, we've got exactly one thread like this, and that goes back to "Prime Video working horribly on PS4", which my system says was last commented on on Jan 27, almost an entire month ago.Squilookle said:
Not seeing off-topic exactly awash with political or religious threads. Though I have been tempted to start the odd historical thread myself.
So, there was a tradition that Mary, with Jesus mother Mary and another Martha, left Judeah and eventually arrived at Gaul. And took the Holy Grail with her.
Probably, in reality, she was persecuted by other church leaders to make sure her version of Christianity died. This happened a lot before Constantine and Paul/Saul was a big part of that. He made sure that there was a division between the Jews and Jesus' followers, where Peter wanted to maintain some Jewish traditions. Pauls books were always criticizing the people he wrote to. He alwayd thought his version of Christianity was the only version. It's why Peter isn't invited to the New Testament (with only 2 books if I recall correctly), despite being picked by Jesus as the one to speak for him after his ascension His platform of unity was generally seen as evil, just like the rest of the Jews. And the 70s rolled around so no one wanted to be a Jew anymore. The Romans utterly broke Israel for almost 2000 years
Many versions of Christianity have been destroyed over the millennia. Mary likely succumb to such persecution. And what's the traditional way to smear a woman? Slut shaming
Probably, in reality, she was persecuted by other church leaders to make sure her version of Christianity died. This happened a lot before Constantine and Paul/Saul was a big part of that. He made sure that there was a division between the Jews and Jesus' followers, where Peter wanted to maintain some Jewish traditions. Pauls books were always criticizing the people he wrote to. He alwayd thought his version of Christianity was the only version. It's why Peter isn't invited to the New Testament (with only 2 books if I recall correctly), despite being picked by Jesus as the one to speak for him after his ascension His platform of unity was generally seen as evil, just like the rest of the Jews. And the 70s rolled around so no one wanted to be a Jew anymore. The Romans utterly broke Israel for almost 2000 years
Many versions of Christianity have been destroyed over the millennia. Mary likely succumb to such persecution. And what's the traditional way to smear a woman? Slut shaming
The idea that Mary Magdalene is the unnamed prostitute is from the 6th century. It was certainly not done to persecute her or her version of Christianity.trunkage said:
Also it has always been a disputed reading of the bible.
Sex outside marriage being sinful is a very basic principle of Christianity. That's prostitution out, then.Drathnoxis said:
There's no biblical evidence Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. This is more a later creation, probably designed to diminish her role and presence - probably because women weren't supposed to have status, respect, etc. in medieval society. What's the old sexist saying? Women must be virgins, mothers or whores, and she doesn't appear to have been a virgin or a mother, so...
Religions, including christianity, often than not don't mix well with sex. And to be blunt, most also have a big problem with allowing women agency, especially over their own body. So any woman who works the oldest profession is basically doing a double whammy of bad.
Personally, I see no inherent issue with prostitution as long as it's done safely and of one's own informed volition. People are basically selling themselves in almost every other conceivable way, some of which are arguably much more harmful, so I don't see why selling sex should be an exception. Then again, I'm not christian. Also, being against prostitution would make me a massive hypocrite.
Personally, I see no inherent issue with prostitution as long as it's done safely and of one's own informed volition. People are basically selling themselves in almost every other conceivable way, some of which are arguably much more harmful, so I don't see why selling sex should be an exception. Then again, I'm not christian. Also, being against prostitution would make me a massive hypocrite.
Cos it was written and rewritten and retold by men who desire power and control, especially over the opposite sex and who they consider "inferior." Which would also include the opposite sex I suppose.
Christianity is mostly concerned with adultery which is considered a horrible sin. Premarital sex is considered far less of an issue. That is mostly a problem because of potential unwanted pregnancy.Agema said:
Note that I used the word 'starts.' The mere fact that you were also thinking about starting one yourself simply compounds it.Thaluikhain said:
I cant remember where I got some of my information from. But I did remember this:Satinavian said:
Note: Papyrus 66 was propertied to be written around 100 (when the 'final' edition of the Gospel of John finished taking shape. It was at least a 20 year process with at least 2 editions) and was found in 1952. I think its the oldest original codex to be found but copies of the earlier editions have been found.
The irony being that the post has been there for about ten times longer than the problem lasted, at this point. I'd completely forgotten about it so when you brought it up I had a knee-jerk reaction of going "Fuck, it happened again?".Thaluikhain said:
Maybe they'd restore R&P in full if that happened. Frankly, I'm not actually too concerned about that happening. Even before R&P was axed had there really been much R discussion in recent years? I don't recall that really being the case.Marik2 said:
Speaking of virgins and mothers named Mary, I wonder if she was a unique evolutionary offshoot capable of parthenogenesis.Agema said: