creatiwe said:you say that they are only there to eat krill.
let me ask you something. did you forget about watching lion king? The circle of life also works under the sea. when they die plankton feed on them and krill feed on it again.
creatiwe said:you say that they are only there to eat krill.
let me ask you something. did you forget about watching lion king? The circle of life also works under the sea. when they die plankton feed on them and krill feed on it again.
What is so bad about destroying an ecosystem of the earth is that I would like to something for my children and their children to live on, thank you.insaneHoshi said:And once humans are done with all our frucking over the ecosystems, planed earth wont skip a beat, it WILL heal its self and life will continue to go on like it has for about 3 billion years. I ask what is bad about Destroying an ecosystem?cuddly_tomato said:The dude in the video, Carlin or whatever, has no point except the fact that he is extremely ignorant. There is no way to justify wiping out entire ecosystems "because". Human beings are an ecological disaster for the planet and there really isn't a reason for it beyond lazyness, pride, or cost, and they aren't good reasons at all.insaneHoshi said:just a couple of thoughts:
But he does have a point, anything we do to the earth, short of a virus bomb, the earth will recover, as it has numerous times before. An species going extinct isnt necessarily bad, how would you like it if dinosaurs were still around and eating us left right and center?gibboss28 said:In defense of the clip: that clip was from 1992, its completely irrelevant now and I guarantee if he was still doing stand up he wouldn't have said something that stupid with as you say the information available to everyone with access to a computer.cuddly_tomato said:The guy in the video is an idiot frankly.theoddman said:I'll let George Carlin do the talking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw&feature=player_embedded
25 species a day go extinct "regardless" of human activity?
In this day and age, with information available to anyone with access to a computer, there is no excuse for such ignorant stupidity from anyone living in the developed world. Human activity is causing the sixth mass extinction [http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4797-earth-faces-sixth-mass-extinction.html].
Not to put down what you are saying, but i figured an FYI would be a good thing to put there, cause I like George Carlin I found him to be a very funny and very accurate (most of the time time, obviously) comedian.
Whales are endangered though. Keep over-fishing, keep polluting, keep on wrecking the very place you live and they will be gone, just like so many other creatures before them have gone. The difference between now and the last 65 million years is that this is a mass extinction, and biodiversity is under severe attack. If it continues at its current rate we run the real risk of going that way ourselves.insaneHoshi said:Also could people stop saying "whales are endangered" Whales Can not be endangered, because they arnt a SPECIES. Just because some whale species are endangered doesnt mean the whole Order is.
The entire oceanic environment [http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/314/5800/787] is endangered. Whales, just for your information, live in the sea.insaneHoshi said:An NO WHALES ARE NOT FUCKING endangered, Some whale (maby most) species are endangered. Are all Primates endangered because chimps and orangatangs endangered? NO, last time i checked there is 7 billion primates on this planed, doesnt sound endangered, does it?
We need those creatures to keep those in check. Nature has created a fragile, complex, but amazing system that we would be best not to fuck with. Kill one species off and there is a chance that you may have very well collapsed an ecosystem for some food.ArcWinter said:See, there is one thing that humans CAN NOT KILL OFF, or else we will all die.
That thing is PLANTS. Screw animals, they'd all die anyway. Being against killing "insert animal here" doesn't make any sense, because we can survive without them.
Oh yeah, and we'd need insects to keep the plants alive. So insects and plants. Don't kill em. Animals? Go ahead.
As far as I know whale hunting is illegal everywhere, yet they still do it in Japan. Or rather, they're hunting whales 'for science', and after they're done with the corpse they sell the meat and whatever-the-hell people use from a giant sea mammal. They're still hunting them, they're just not calling it that. And they get away with it.Nivag the Owl said:Wait... People eat whale? I was genuinely unaware of that. In fact, I've never even pondered the meaning of whale hunting. But anyways, I would much rather they weren't hunted... In the same way that I would much rather cows weren't hunted. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to eat them.
Hey genius. THERE IS MORE THEN ONE TYPE OF WHALES. And not ALL of them are endangered.Cid SilverWing said:You just pwned yourself. Any decent society will ban all hunting of any endangered species, including marine ones.the stonker said:P.s. I come from Iceland where whale hunting isn't so illegal and everyone frown upon it so I don't get the point.
That I know, but many of them are and that's why people get so pissed off when people kill whales.Mcface said:I think you should do some research.Julianking93 said:Because they're endangered.
Why the fuck else do you think we're against killing them?
Do research on the subject before you ***** about it.
There are a bunch of different kinds of whales, many of which are not endangered.
Essentially you don't care what species die, so long as you're unaffected.pffh said:You know who also eat planktons? Fish, and you know who also eat fish? No? Well it's us humans and we can keep the fish population "under control".Blatherscythe said:Every species has a role to play in the ecosystem, whales eat plankton, fish and squid. Whales keep the fish and squid populations down so they don't overpopulate and kill themselves off.
We in norway have been killing whales for over 1200 years >_>marter said:Because whales are not what most consider a traditional animal to kill. They are also a lot harder to breed, unlike cattle or pigs.
Well why bother keeping humans alive? They're just sacks of meat waiting to die.the stonker said:Are they in any risk of being stop existing?
Think about it they eat tones of food every day and they are pretty much big blubber bags.
If your arguement is "They are so cute,I wear a whale T-shirton't hurt them" then your just being irrational.
So I ask you escapists, why shouldn't we just kill the whales? More food for us and I call it survival.
P.s. I come from Iceland where whale hunting isn't so illegal and everyone frown upon it so I don't get the point.
No its not!Magnalian said:As far as I know whale hunting is illegal everywhere, yet they still do it in Japan.
My breeding point still stands.Grahwo said:We in norway have been killing whales for over 1200 years >_>marter said:Because whales are not what most consider a traditional animal to kill. They are also a lot harder to breed, unlike cattle or pigs.
You can say we have a.. tradition for hunting it =)