Why cant you kill kids?
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GTA with little kids in like a playground would make me happy, well...throwing the moly at them and watching them would make me happy.
Needless to say, but im going to anyway, I wouldn't think that funny if it happened IRL.
Needless to say, but im going to anyway, I wouldn't think that funny if it happened IRL.
Quoted the truth.Doth said:
See Eating Nova for an example of how stupid this "no child killing" rule can be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QepNvmfJQ
The way I see it, if you have a game with the type of over the top violence in Fallout 3, either keep kids in areas where you couldn't kill anyone anyway or keep them out of the freaking game. When I decided to purge the Republic of Dave, there shouldn't have even been children there if those children were going to be bullet proof. There especially shouldn't be bullet proof children who mock your main character.
It just ruins the immersion when you can shoot and stab a child like five hundred times and it never die, it's almost like a glitch but it's intentional.
Fallout, Fallout 2, Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick, Blood Omen (the original), Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2PsykoDragon said:
Edit: Warcraft 3, Black and White
Well, you're right.Doth said:
"Let's kill this old woman, steal her drops, then buy her house, just to take the piss."
You try and shoot a kid, suddenly the God of Games intervene's and tells you that you will suffer a fate of being assaulted by Wii-motes in hell.
Yeah I loved killing that newspaper guy in Hong Kong, die obnoxious little twat..Maze1125 said:
This message does in no way reflect the opinion of the poster of anyone reading it (unless you're Jeffrey Dahmer).
What, now we can't? Oh Fu-
In all seriousness. Children are, and always have been, a symbol of innocence.
Killing a kid, even in a game would be seen as horrific by most people, even a lot of gamers.
Although you kind of can in Bioshock if you choose to 'Harvert' the ADAM from the Little Sisters.
In all seriousness. Children are, and always have been, a symbol of innocence.
Killing a kid, even in a game would be seen as horrific by most people, even a lot of gamers.
Although you kind of can in Bioshock if you choose to 'Harvert' the ADAM from the Little Sisters.
maybe its just me but i thought a game like Postal or Manhunt is way more gruesome and damaging than any game that you could kill a child.
i know for a fact in postal "the newest one" your character could
1. taser guy till he collapses and urinates himself
2. Kick him
3. take out gas can and pour it on guy
4. Light match
5. Urinate on the body yourself to put the fire out
so. i have to ask
what is worse
i know for a fact in postal "the newest one" your character could
1. taser guy till he collapses and urinates himself
2. Kick him
3. take out gas can and pour it on guy
4. Light match
5. Urinate on the body yourself to put the fire out
so. i have to ask
what is worse
this on so many levels. sure it would be immoral, sure it would be banned everywhere but why is it that you can sell the only cute kid into slavery where she will toil away, most likely get raped and die an early death but why can't you kill the annoying mayor or the girl who makes horrible knock knock jokes?Grayjack72 said:
I once wasted a mini-nuke and accidentally killed myself and even that didn't harm them.
Well he most obvious reason and most likely the actual reason is game developers don't want to have to deal with the bullshit of the moral implications of infanticide.
But there are really two questions:
Why IS it not?
Why SHOULD it not?
The question is like an elephant in the room, it is quite clear by the precedent set by both games and tv shows and films, you can get away with senselessly killing hundreds of innocent people, even in a film like HEAT (yes, I always write that film's name in upper case... don't know why) in the intense Bank Shootout Bob De Niro's character actually shoots and kills a mother and the film doesn't skip a beat and he remains a sympathetic character. Yet Sizemore's character takes a little girl hostage and when Pachino's character kills him with a carefully placed shot (yes, I really have forgotten all the characters names, boy, I thought I was a fan) there is no remorse for sizemore.
What does it say about us that we hardly blink at innocent adults being killed, we see it on TV, both fictionally and in real life, we accept it. We watch it as entertainment.
What does this say about our society?
What does this say about our species?
We should be just as shocked by adults being killed as children being killed. Yet we aren't. they're all fellow humans. They both have so much to contribute to society.
Maybe... maybe it is because as a society we don't have the common social connection we used to have.
All we have left are our animal instincts, to spare children because they are no threat. But anyone else, an adult, they are fair game in this rat race.
I realise that people only get emotive about adults being killed when there is empathy... a connection. Things like "For each person who died, they were someone's brother, someone's son, someone's husband" That is why I can hardly care about running over pedestrians in GTA, not matter how realistically their bodies go flying, there is no way I can really interact with them. I mean if you have ever played GTA4 the character models are OK, but they still act like androids.
This is seen in war accounts, especially pilots, they see people get blown to pieces but they admit they are surprised they are not shocked by it.
I think about deaths in games. Those I care about were those the developer had ensured I had created an emotional bond with through careful characterisation and interaction them. In fact in games at least I have cared more about the in game deaths of non-human characters (those that can't even speak) than realistically human characters who are un-relate-able. Because when it comes down to it humanity and species loyalty doesn't count for anything.
10,000 innocent civilians were killed in some civil war = meh
but if your pet dog dies...
But there are really two questions:
Why IS it not?
Why SHOULD it not?
The question is like an elephant in the room, it is quite clear by the precedent set by both games and tv shows and films, you can get away with senselessly killing hundreds of innocent people, even in a film like HEAT (yes, I always write that film's name in upper case... don't know why) in the intense Bank Shootout Bob De Niro's character actually shoots and kills a mother and the film doesn't skip a beat and he remains a sympathetic character. Yet Sizemore's character takes a little girl hostage and when Pachino's character kills him with a carefully placed shot (yes, I really have forgotten all the characters names, boy, I thought I was a fan) there is no remorse for sizemore.
What does it say about us that we hardly blink at innocent adults being killed, we see it on TV, both fictionally and in real life, we accept it. We watch it as entertainment.
What does this say about our society?
What does this say about our species?
We should be just as shocked by adults being killed as children being killed. Yet we aren't. they're all fellow humans. They both have so much to contribute to society.
Maybe... maybe it is because as a society we don't have the common social connection we used to have.
All we have left are our animal instincts, to spare children because they are no threat. But anyone else, an adult, they are fair game in this rat race.
I realise that people only get emotive about adults being killed when there is empathy... a connection. Things like "For each person who died, they were someone's brother, someone's son, someone's husband" That is why I can hardly care about running over pedestrians in GTA, not matter how realistically their bodies go flying, there is no way I can really interact with them. I mean if you have ever played GTA4 the character models are OK, but they still act like androids.
This is seen in war accounts, especially pilots, they see people get blown to pieces but they admit they are surprised they are not shocked by it.
I think about deaths in games. Those I care about were those the developer had ensured I had created an emotional bond with through careful characterisation and interaction them. In fact in games at least I have cared more about the in game deaths of non-human characters (those that can't even speak) than realistically human characters who are un-relate-able. Because when it comes down to it humanity and species loyalty doesn't count for anything.
10,000 innocent civilians were killed in some civil war = meh
but if your pet dog dies...
OK people here it is. the final thing to say about violent video games.
playing video games does not make you a violent person but apparently not playing HALO makes you kill your parents.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92443-Halo-Killer-Sentenced-to-Life
playing video games does not make you a violent person but apparently not playing HALO makes you kill your parents.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92443-Halo-Killer-Sentenced-to-Life
