Why do people hate griefers?

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miracleofsound said:
Terminalchaos said:
miracleofsound said:
Here's a very simple explanation:

Humans do not all share the same sense of humour.
Thats exactly why I love most griefers. Yeah I get pissed sometimes too but its oftentimes so funny or innovative its worth it.
I'd like to hear a few examples of funny griefing, or some vid links, as I have never been griefed and am not sure exactly how annoying or funny it is.

What is an innovative way to grief?

I imagine teabagging was considered griefing back in the day?
Try using a med kit to hold people in place in Left 4 Dead while a tank knocks them off a cliff. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds hilarious.
 

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oppp7 said:
I can understand trolls. They're hate based. But griefing is funny sometimes.
Griefing is never funny for the person being griefed, or the other people in the game. The only people who get a kick out of it are the griefer and their friends. It's a disgustingly anti-social action that just ensures that games aren't fun at all.

To all griefers, if you want to be annoying, by all means, do it. But don't be coward and use gaming as medium, instead, do it right to my face. See how that works out when you're actually responsible for your actions, hmmm?
I had that once :D One of my mates kept killing me in Halo 2's co-op, so I punched him in the face and still wont play games with him :D

If I could, I'd do it to EVERY PERSON that did it to me. I just can't afford the air fare :(
Really? And that's nopt worse than griefing?
 

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I don't know since I've never encountered one (unless you count someone in couterstrike who blinds the entire team with flashbangs at the start of each round).
 

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oppp7 said:
Chipperz said:
NeedsABetterName... said:
oppp7 said:
I can understand trolls. They're hate based. But griefing is funny sometimes.
Griefing is never funny for the person being griefed, or the other people in the game. The only people who get a kick out of it are the griefer and their friends. It's a disgustingly anti-social action that just ensures that games aren't fun at all.

To all griefers, if you want to be annoying, by all means, do it. But don't be coward and use gaming as medium, instead, do it right to my face. See how that works out when you're actually responsible for your actions, hmmm?
I had that once :D One of my mates kept killing me in Halo 2's co-op, so I punched him in the face and still wont play games with him :D

If I could, I'd do it to EVERY PERSON that did it to me. I just can't afford the air fare :(
Really? And that's nopt worse than griefing?
Standard martial arts rules. Everyone gets three warnings - anything after that is brought on themselves. And yes, punching someone who has been warned, after saying they won't do it again, three times, is better than griefing.

Griefing is being a **** "for the lulz". Which is, well, a **** thing to do.
 

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oppp7 said:
miracleofsound said:
Terminalchaos said:
miracleofsound said:
Here's a very simple explanation:

Humans do not all share the same sense of humour.
Thats exactly why I love most griefers. Yeah I get pissed sometimes too but its oftentimes so funny or innovative its worth it.
I'd like to hear a few examples of funny griefing, or some vid links, as I have never been griefed and am not sure exactly how annoying or funny it is.

What is an innovative way to grief?

I imagine teabagging was considered griefing back in the day?
Try using a med kit to hold people in place in Left 4 Dead while a tank knocks them off a cliff. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds hilarious.
Well as L4D is not a competitive game then that wouldn't piss me off, I would laugh!

Me and my buddies do that kind of shit to eachother all the time, but we never EVER do it to strangers online.
 

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oppp7 said:
Chipperz said:
NeedsABetterName... said:
oppp7 said:
I can understand trolls. They're hate based. But griefing is funny sometimes.
Griefing is never funny for the person being griefed, or the other people in the game. The only people who get a kick out of it are the griefer and their friends. It's a disgustingly anti-social action that just ensures that games aren't fun at all.

To all griefers, if you want to be annoying, by all means, do it. But don't be coward and use gaming as medium, instead, do it right to my face. See how that works out when you're actually responsible for your actions, hmmm?
I had that once :D One of my mates kept killing me in Halo 2's co-op, so I punched him in the face and still wont play games with him :D

If I could, I'd do it to EVERY PERSON that did it to me. I just can't afford the air fare :(
Really? And that's nopt worse than griefing?
Punching someone for griefing? Id say thats fair.
 

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Chipperz said:
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Really? And that's nopt worse than griefing?
Standard martial arts rules. Everyone gets three warnings - anything after that is brought on themselves. And yes, punching someone who has been warned, after saying they won't do it again, three times, is better than griefing.

Griefing is being a **** "for the lulz". Which is, well, a **** thing to do.
Why do people think they can react with violence if they've been insulted? Even the worst insult in the world is just a group of words. So they team killed you. Why would you try to react with anything other than team kill them (or join with them and try to take down all of the friendly NPCs)? An eye for an eye leaves the world blind, so I'm guessing a leg for an eye is much worse.
 
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Griefing usually just makes it annoying for everyone else. It's not just about stats, it's about having fun with the game, and griefers stop that from happening. Like L4D griefers who deliberately steal all the health and deliberatey die so they cause a problem for the other players. It stops the game being fun.
 

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No one likes griefers because they just give you, well, grief. Their only motivation for what they do is to piss you off.
 

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Future Hero said:
Like teamkilling, or betraying, or all the other stuff that makes multiplayer all that more fun?

Yeah, why WOULD you hate griefers?
Some of it's funny. Team killing is kinda boring and stale at this point, but other types of griefing, like the stuff in those Roomba videos is pretty hilarious.
 

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Griefing is only fun to the person being irritating and it ruins the game for everyone else. There's no excuse for it. Wanting to play a game the way it was meant to be played isn't "taking it too seriously", it's a reasonable expectation for a $60 purchase.
 

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Its mostly just the moments irritation. We're out here minding our own business killing defensless little animals when suddenly some guy thats higher level than us comes and one shots us.

Heck, maybe most of the time it isnt greifers, perhaps its members of PETA trying to send gamers a message about killing animals for our own "Quest" Objectives :p
 

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While I can understand monkeying about, I tend to consider it different than griefing. Monkeying about is consensual messing around.

I will use Red vs Blue to demonstrate. The team effort needed to create Red vs Blue is what I would call Monkeying About. They aren't playing the game but they are all having fun. Keyword, ALL.

Griefing would the asshole trying to stop everybody from playing the game when they want to play the game. Griefing is basically somebody deciding to be an asshole and fuck with other people's experience. Person A didn't log in to amuse you. They logged in to play the damn game unless otherwise stated. Ergo, if you go out of your way to fuck with them or stop them from playing, you're an ass and the reason I avoid multiplayer.

I loved playing on Diablo 2 battlenet. However, after having to kill so many assholes who would randomly come in to try and jump me, it almost ruined any desire to play. As it is, I had to give up Battlenet for a while and found my stuff was all gone. The fact that somebody is having to ask Why we hate griefing only illustrates why I am not going to bother.
 

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I don't mind people doing small things like throw flashbangs or waste reasources, I can get over those things...

But when people deliberately try to ruin the game experience, like teamkilling, constant trolling, and trash-talk..... that's when we call in the mighty Banhammer (Or lesser punishments, depending on the severity of the crime...)

GBlair88 said:
Why do griefers hate people?
They don't hate people, they just love to see people squirm. Without people, there would be no griefers.
 

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oppp7 said:
Chipperz said:
NeedsABetterName... said:
oppp7 said:
I can understand trolls. They're hate based. But griefing is funny sometimes.
Griefing is never funny for the person being griefed, or the other people in the game. The only people who get a kick out of it are the griefer and their friends. It's a disgustingly anti-social action that just ensures that games aren't fun at all.

To all griefers, if you want to be annoying, by all means, do it. But don't be coward and use gaming as medium, instead, do it right to my face. See how that works out when you're actually responsible for your actions, hmmm?
I had that once :D One of my mates kept killing me in Halo 2's co-op, so I punched him in the face and still wont play games with him :D

If I could, I'd do it to EVERY PERSON that did it to me. I just can't afford the air fare :(
Really? And that's nopt worse than griefing?
Considering that it was the result of a constant harassment... No, it isn't. It was provoked and consistently provoked. If I was to sit beside you on the bus and poke your side, over and over and over again, eventually you would do something about it.

Same deal, just mental, which can actually be MORE frustrating since you can't just change seats like in the aforementioned poking example. So it is a constant annoyance. People have breaking points and if you push long enough, you earn what you get.
 

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Well, think about it in terms of a hypothetical....

You and some friends are playing a game of kickball. How fun!

But wait! All of a sudden, three guys run up to you, take your ball, and start throwing it random places (sometimes even at you).

When you ask them nicely to stop, one of them punches you in the chest.

So! How would you feel if you were in this situation?
 

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It depends. If its during a serious match, its annoying. But if you're just out for fun, griefing is really fun