Why Do We Love to Hate Women Like Yaya Han?

[Scow2]

I like her for her cosplay but I don't like her views on cosplay. SciFi, SyFy, whatever that channel calls itself now, did a cosplay based show on which she routinely popped up on and it really irked me when one of her views that she espoused constantly is don't cosplay out of your body type, which isn't a good message. Thing she also said a few things about basic amateur cosplay that boiled down to, "if you can't devote a lot of time/money into it, don't do it."

You can blame aggressive editing for that, not her actual views. The producers decided to portray her as the "Cosplay Snob" judge, though that wasn't how her comments actually went.

Hey, there's a beautiful woman cosplaying to get attention and then there's professional cosplayers that just so happen to be beautiful. I believe Yaya Han is the latter in all honesty.

And the former category does not actually exist in any meaningful capacity.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I like her for her cosplay but I don't like her views on cosplay. SciFi, SyFy, whatever that channel calls itself now, did a cosplay based show on which she routinely popped up on and it really irked me when one of her views that she espoused constantly is don't cosplay out of your body type, which isn't a good message. Thing she also said a few things about basic amateur cosplay that boiled down to, "if you can't devote a lot of time/money into it, don't do it."

Nothing against her looks, I'm a hetero-male, how could I? It's just that I've heard statements from her that really strike me wrong way.

Being more of a cosplay "professional", Han tends to shoot for 1:1 depictions of the characters she selects. From a purely mechanical point of view, I can sort of understand the logic of only cosplaying within the limits of your body type. If you're really in the market to offer an exact reproduction, then body type does come into play.

The thing is, though, most cosplayers aren't professional. They're fans that feel that nerding out while dressed as something that appeals to them or that they just find fun or humorous or, well, whatever else. I think that's totally fine. Male MGS fans cosplaying as Quiet for the lulz? Why the Hell not?

All I know is I have an immense amount of respect to disabled fans of a game, a movie or a fictitious character that either work past their disabilities to depict the character, or who use their disability as a "prop" of sorts. I'm reminded of a Fury Road fan who felt like cosplaying as Furiosa and who actually had a missing arm cutting off at exactly the right spot for a visually accurate reproduction of the character's prosthetic arm to be designed and used. The end result was absolutely stunning.

 

[PunkRex]

I don't know who this lady is nor do I follow any cosplayers online but I gotta ask, why the fuck would it matter if she was doing it for attention anyway?

It's nice to have people to talk too!

I draw constantly, because I've always loved to do it and I want to improve. I then take what I've drawn and post that online, why? Because it's nice to talk about your work with others. The attention isn't what my main objective is but it's a nice thing to have regardless, honestly, the people who complain about someone doing something for anything but the purest reasons need to get a reality check.

She enjoys what she does, as long as it's not hurting anyone then what's the freaking problem? It pandas/degrades/misrepresents, blah, blah, blah. When did it become her job to stand up for whatever morals you hold!?

~Sigh~

I'm getting real tired of your shit internet.

 

[UberPubert]

That's the thing: you guys hadn't heard of her; of course you don't hate some rando that you don't know about. You're, as UberPubert stated, "outside observers". But Yaya does get a fairly large amount of hate, and in no small part because of her cosplays which show off her cleavage.

I'm just pointing out that a more accurate title would be "Some people don't like Yaya Han".

If somebody wanted to write, "Why we love to hate companies like EA" I could understand, because that's a huge publishing company that buys out and ruins franchises and garners a notoriously bad reputation among millions gamers.

How many people actually hate Yaya? I don't see any of them in this thread.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

The justification:

A lot of people in our culture are pissed. Us older geeks (born in the 80's) really had to suffer to be who we are. The bullying wasn't just real, but fucking encouraged by authority figures. So people hold onto that pain and took that as the fire that made them. Add the perfect shield of being able to say whatever someone wants from hundreds of miles away, and your average geek/nerd became Verbal Wolverines, ready to go beserker on anyone or anything that they feel they've "earned" by suffering through our childhood.

Then these casuals who couldn't really compete with the super models but were still really cute found out that if they put on glasses, they could get a buttload of attention and feel special. No one likes a poser, so rage on.

Possibly the Truth:

It's a costume for some people who they can take off and be fine with regular society. Most people are envious of that fact. Some are even just simply jealous that they can't have someone that hot actually care for them romantically. Boo on those 'posers' for coming in and ruining the place that was supposed to feel safe for all those geeks who would be terrified of even talking to a woman that attractive in real life.

Butthurt is really what it comes down to.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

People hate Yaya Han? Really? Jesus I'd sacrifice goats at that woman's feet if I felt it would help the world be a better place. Or build a temple in her honour, you know, if she wasn't on board with animal sacrifice.

 

[Jake Martinez]

I find that most people are fairly duplicitous in this kind of behavior. For instance, my wife has quite frankly enormous implants - something in the neighborhood of 1800cc's (that's nearly 2 liters of saline per breast). She can wear almost anything and make it look sexy because her figure is so outrageous (tall, blonde, stacked).

Anyway, very, very rarely has she ever gotten a negative comment from anyone about her obviously fake boobs (no woman that skinny has breasts that large). She has gotten exclamations ranging from "HOLY SHIT!" to just "BOOBS!" from random drunk people, and while that's annoying, none of them were flat out judgments of her character for deciding to get plastic surgery. It's actually quite the opposite, usually she gets asked (discretely) by a good quarter to half of the women she becomes acquaintances with all sorts of questions about them and generally under the auspices that they want to get them done too.

Now, I have a hard time believing if such a large portion of the women my wife meets are asking her for advice on getting breast implants, that really so many people are opposed to them. Instead, I tend to think that this is just another instance of people either being rude for the sake of it, or trying to send moral signals to other people that range everywhere from, "I'm a guy who hates breast implants, so please date me!" to "God damn it I hate fake bitches, even though I don't know this person!"

Basically, entirely useless and stupid posturing not really meant to attack the person in question, but instead to boost the ego of the person making the insult or otherwise allow them to project an image of themselves. At this point, the lady in question is actually irrelevant. They'll ***** about anything so long as they get the message across that actually expresses something about themselves.

Do people get this? It's less about if having big fake boobs is a crime, and more about wanting to use hating on them as a statement about the speaker.

Anyway, that's why all this stuff is nonsense. Once you understand what people are doing you just see right through it and feel sad for them. Why don't they try talking about themselves instead of using other people as props for their own egos or self image.

 

[Amaror]

It seems pretty stupid that people would jump to the conclusion that her body must be fake, because it looks improbable in a single picture.
Do these people know anything at all about modelling, cosplay or just plain taking pictures?
There are tons and tons of ways to make your body look a certain way you want in a picture and actually sugically changing your body is the generally not the way it's done.
From light manipulation, to body creams or just wearing your clothes in a specific way, there's tons of ways to make your body look different exspecially if it's just for a single picture.
I have a female friend that wanted to try cosplaying once and showed me a few advice videos she had looked up on youtube. Even if we just look at the breasts, there was one youtuber that made her B-cup look like a DD-cup just by thightening the bra and applying some creams that made the skin look a bit different.

 

[LetalisK]

As for whether or not she's had surgery or whatever, getting worked up about dumb shit like that just strikes me as immature and petty. In the future, the people making these complaints will be the real version of people from deus ex human revolution who blow up augmentation labs because of their shallow and pathetic perception of humanity.

Possibly, but I always revert to "Don't they have a rent or car payment to worry about?" Going out into the big wide world and getting sucker punched in the face with a heap of responsibilities knocked the Give A Shit out of a lot of things I'd previously cared about.

 

[stormtrooper9091]

I'm starting to get the impression this whole "controversy" is absolutely staged by the feminist lunatics because they have ran out of ideas on how to stay in the spotlight. I'm going to assume that people in general a. have never heard of this person and b. don't give two shits either way but noooo, it MUST be talked about because it's super important and what have you. As seen in the other thread where users generally went "what controversy?" or "there's a controversy over this??", this is another horrible attempt by the internet feminists to appear important

 

[renegade7]

I think the author is looking too far into it when trying to attribute it to a cycle of ideation and devaluation. That might make sense to "role model" kind of figures, which applies to only very few celebrities.

I don't know much about this Yaya Han person, but I looked her up on Google and oh my god she is gorgeous and appears to be completely dedicated to what she does. In my opinion, that's something to be admired.

I think the catch is that not all people see it that way. Some people look at a beautiful, successful, dedicated, or otherwise very gifted or capable person and see something to aspire to. Others may see that and become hostile rage machines, because no one likes the idea of someone else becoming successful without any apparent effort (not that professional cosplay modelers don't make an effort, but the stereotype is generally that they don't).

And for some people, the asshole factor is turned up to 11 when a woman is involved. An irksome but unavoidable feature of internet and gamer culture is that its unmoderated, anonymous nature allows a certain kind of personality to operate freely without ever having anyone seriously call him on his BS.

For me it's no longer a question of whether or not I'm "allowed" to enjoy the sight of a cosplayer, because there's something sexy about the person. Now I avoid the scene almost entirely, because every time I see a slightly exaggerated cleavage or bit too tight suit on the cosplayer, I don't get titillated in any way, instead I get tired and just want to avoid the inevitable political correctness and the feminist hypersensitivity that follows.
That's where you want to point your finger, because those people are the ones who ruin cosplay and especially any slight sexualization about it, which was supposed to be a bit of harmless fun.

There's a layer of validity to it. Obviously the "men rape women with their gaze" whackos are never going to have anything productive to say on this matter, but those who have commented that it's often the case that the most memorable feature of a female character is how pretty she was rather than her role in the game, compared to male characters, or those more like yourself who simply are not interested in sex appeal and want designers and cosplayers to pursue different directions with female characters, those arguments tend to be worth it to at least hear out.

Of course, wannabe feminists aren't alone in their guilt. MRA arguments about sexy cosplay involving female models "exploiting male sexual instincts" abound and are similarly ridiculous to arguments about how society rapes women by making it okay for them to show cleavage in public.

 

[SoulChaserJ]

"because women who fit most antihero characteristics usually aren't the protagonist of the story"

You mean like Gamora? Not the watered down version that appeared in the film, but the one depicted throughout the GotG comic run.

OT: The problem with arguments like the ones being presented in this article and throughout the internet is that people hating people they don't know is just stupid. I don't know Justin Beiber and I hate his public persona, but unless I meet him and get to know him on a personal level, how could I possibly hate HIM?

TL;DR be a better person and stop 'hating' people that you don't even know.

 

[Ariseishirou]

Because a lot of geek guys imagine (possibly correctly) that even though she's supposedly in their social clique, and thus ostensibly obtainable, that she wouldn't date them/fuck them. She'd date/fuck another really hot guy (or girl). And this makes them angry. So they pretend she must be some kind of faker to rationalize it away: she isn't really into the hobby (oh horseshit, those costumes take hundreds of hours), she's only doing it for the attention (so what if she is? so are a fuckton of fit male cosplayers - where's your rage at them?), she's not _really_ that hot, anyway (ahahahaah you wouldn't be wasting your time commenting if she wasn't, bro).

And a lot of geek girls are simply jealous of her attractiveness, in the same way many women snipe at overtly sexual actresses/porn stars, and the same way men snipe at boy bands and pretty boy actors. Someone of the opposite sex you're interested in probably wants to fuck her/him more than they want to fuck you. It hurts. So, try to tear her down with rationalizations of their own: she has implants (honestly, she probably does, but so what? you could have them too), she wears a metric fuckton of makeup (so do just about all professional cosplayers, not to mention models, so again - so what? you could too), she uses photoshop (her and every other major cosplayer on the planet, some much, much more overtly than she does).

It's an ugly side of humanity, but at least she'll never hurt for press, and people will continue to consume her media whether they hate her or not, because she's genuinely, undeniably talented at what she does.

 

[Gatlank]

She has a decent amount of success, she's beautiful, she's good in what she does... Do i need to continue?

 

[Tsun Tzu]

What's this "we" stuff, eh?

I certainly don't hate women like her and it's definitely not my problem that there are dicks and/or cunts out there doing what they do best by being dicks and/or cunts on the internet.

And I don't really get this type of 'hate' either. It's just a waste of time.

 

[Azure23]

I'm starting to get the impression this whole "controversy" is absolutely staged by the feminist lunatics because they have ran out of ideas on how to stay in the spotlight. I'm going to assume that people in general a. have never heard of this person and b. don't give two shits either way but noooo, it MUST be talked about because it's super important and what have you. As seen in the other thread where users generally went "what controversy?" or "there's a controversy over this??", this is another horrible attempt by the internet feminists to appear important

That's really, REALLY not where the hate is coming from, but keep fighting the good fight, true believer.

Somebody said it earlier, but it's mostly just dudes slutshaming her because they assume (probably correctly) that they don't have a shot in hell with her. Why people slutshame people for not sleeping with them is honestly beyond me, I mean if she's such a whore then all the dudes complaining about her on chans should have a better chance. But no, they don't, because she's a lady who likes to make and wear costumes.

The only real criticism I've seen her receive has been in response to comments she's made (not just on heroes of cosplay) about how important it is to cosplay within your body type. I feel like that's a bit of a silly thing to say when she must surely know what an escapist thing it is to start with. Especially at a non professional level. At some point it just feels like she's holding herself above hobbyists who have the temerity to cosplay one of gamings many size zero heroines while being a size six. And that criticism was coming from said hobbyists.