And the damn finest planet of dirt for 200 000 light years if you want my opinion!OlasDAlmighty said:Our name for the planet being "earth" isn't much better when you consider that they might just as well have called it planet Dirt. But I digress.
This.Heronblade said:sol and luna are generally the accepted "names" for those particular bodies. Granted, those are just the latin versions of moon and sun, but they suffice.
That's a widely accepted yet informal use, in the same way people sometimes use specific brand-names for non-specific items, or mislabel certain animals/etc. based on the type we're more familiar with.OlasDAlmighty said:Unsilenced said:But there is. "The Sun" is the name of the star at the center of the Solar System. Using "sun" to refer to to the star or stars at the center of a different planetary system is incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunWorld English DictionaryAngelOfBlueRoses said:Actually, there IS only one sun in the universe and that is The Sun, or Sol as some people in this thread are calling it. There's only one sun, which is a star. Everything else isn't considered a 'sun,' but a star.
OUR star is the only sun.
sun (sʌn)
? n
1. the star at the centre of our solar system. It is a gaseous body having a highly compressed core, in which energy is generated by thermonuclear reactions (at about 15 million kelvins), surrounded by less dense radiative and convective zones serving to transport the energy to the surface (the photosphere ). The atmospheric layers (the chromosphere and corona ) are normally invisible except during a total eclipse. Mass and diameter: 333 000 and 109 times that of earth respectively; mean distance from earth: 149.6 million km (1 astronomical unit)Related: solar
2. any star around which a planetary system revolves
3. the sun as it appears at a particular time or place: the winter sun
4. the radiant energy, esp heat and light, received from the sun; sunshine
5. a person or thing considered as a source of radiant warmth, glory, etc
6. a pictorial representation of the sun, often depicted with a human face
7. poetic a year or a day
8. poetic a climate
9. archaic sunrise or sunset (esp in the phrase from sun to sun )
10. catch the sun to become slightly sunburnt
11. place in the sun a prominent or favourable position
12. nautical shoot the sun , take the sun to measure the altitude of the sun in order to determine latitude
13. touch of the sun slight sunstroke
14. under the sun , beneath the sun on earth; at all: nobody under the sun eats more than you do
I wish more people on this thread would do their homework.
"Sol, the Latin name for the SunOlasDAlmighty said:MrFalconfly said:Incorrect.
Luna and Sol are the proper names of those objects.
Okay, could somebody please tell me where everybody keeps getting this idea that "Sol" and "Luna" are the official names of these things? I've looked it up in several places and every source is telling me the same thing.
http://earthsky.org/space/what-is-the-suns-name
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=155
http://www.universetoday.com/18701/name-of-the-sun/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
http://www.accessscience.com/studycenter.aspx?main=3&questionID=701
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=289
Actually I did, Titania, Oberon, and Puck are all characters from A Mid Summer Night's Dream which I had to read in high school. Though I never made the connection that Miranda was from The Tempest though. And I'm less familiar with the names of Uranus' other moons.MrFalconfly said:(btw. Did you know that all the moons of Uranus isn't named after anything in Greek mythology, but names of Characters in the plays of Shakespeare and Alexander Pope?).
Trust me Lacktheknack, there isn't a psychiatrist in the world that could fix all the problems I've got, and I've seen several.lacktheknack said:Loss of perspective, anger issues, insistent pettiness. He may want to get that looked at.Russian_Assassin said:I don't get it, why should he see a psychiatrist? I can call the sun Omellete of Sector 5/ Zyrithian if I want to. Does that mean I should immediately be subjected to mind homogenizing medication?lacktheknack said:Because it's the only one of each that really effects us.
If it really pisses you off, then start calling them Sol and Luna, then consider seeing a psychiatrist.
I can see where you are coming from with this argument, or at least I think I can. If I'm wrong then my apologies but what I think you're saying is that since there's a 'the' before the words they can't be considered actual names like Paul or something, which can't have a 'the' appearing before them. But what about names like 'the milky way'. I'm pretty sure you'd agree that that is the name of our galaxy and the 'the' is required in this case. You can't say 'Milky way galaxy is our home' you have to say 'The milky way galaxy is our home'. Using your argument, this fact would mean that there could be other 'milky way galaxies', which is a unique name for our galaxy.OlasDAlmighty said:Okay, I'll accept that.Dimitriov said:See the real problem isn't that we named our planet's single natural satellite the "moon" or our system's primary the "sun" (see what I did there?). No, the real problem is that we started using those names, the unique names our ancestors gave those objects, to refer to other stars and satellites...OlasDAlmighty said:Snip
THAT is the dumb part, and it happened much more recently than what you are asking about
The only problem I see there is that, and correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I believe we still referred to them as the sun, and the moon back then. If so, the "the" seems to imply that that was already just a generic label and not an actual name.
Just like how we don't have a name for the universe right now. It's just "the universe". Universe isn't it's name per se, it's what it is. There can be other "universes".
So if sun and moon were just labels and not actual names then it does seem natural to call all similar objects suns and moons as well.
In which case it's the original sun and moon that should stop being lazy and get real names of their own.
But if we did start calling all natural satellites "Goomaluchas" and all stars with planets "Baginvorches" I'd be happy with that as well.
Yeah, it's almost as if no one has any sense of humor and couldn't possibly see this as anything other than a joke.TheJJBL said:Well, that escalated quicklySalad Is Murder said:It's like, jeez, I want to start punching you, but I don't know if I'd ever stop and I've got other things to do with my life.BlazeRaider said:I propose we rename them something more respectable.
The Sun --> Celestia
The Moon --> Luna
Let's also rename space in general as discord.
OlasDAlmighty said:Look, I'm sorry but are speaking Latin right now? Maybe you think that this is like with species names where the Latin based name is the scientific one. It's not. Sol is no more it's officially recognized name than the words Soleil, Sonne, or Helios.Bhaalspawn said:They ARE. Those were the original Latin names they were given "Sol" and "Luna" and are currently the most accepted proper names in the world of science and Astronomy.OlasDAlmighty said:Edit: And for the record, no, their names aren't "Sol" and "Luna". That's just in Star Trek and Mass Effect and probably a few other Sci-fi universes, not RL.
You are basically correct, but with the caveat that the way Modern English uses definite articles is also relatively recent.OlasDAlmighty said:Okay, I'll accept that.Dimitriov said:See the real problem isn't that we named our planet's single natural satellite the "moon" or our system's primary the "sun" (see what I did there?). No, the real problem is that we started using those names, the unique names our ancestors gave those objects, to refer to other stars and satellites...OlasDAlmighty said:Snip
THAT is the dumb part, and it happened much more recently than what you are asking about
The only problem I see there is that, and correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I believe we still referred to them as the sun, and the moon back then. If so, the "the" seems to imply that that was already just a generic label and not an actual name.
Just like how we don't have a name for the universe right now. It's just "the universe". Universe isn't it's name per se, it's what it is. There can be other "universes".
So if sun and moon were just labels and not actual names then it does seem natural to call all similar objects suns and moons as well.
In which case it's the original sun and moon that should stop being lazy and get real names of their own.
But if we did start calling all natural satellites "Goomaluchas" and all stars with planets "Baginvorches" I'd be happy with that as well.