Why is Prostitution Illegal?
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Here in Aus prostitution is legal. You'll probably find it is legal in parts of most countries, there are just restrictions on where it can be done within that country. For example here its not near school hospitals and not in residential zones.
While this may seem strange to some it is ultimately what the majority of voters have voted for a government who put through those laws, or not went against a government who put through the laws without voter support. Either way the laws exist because people support the or don't fight them. If you don't like the laws near where you are there is probably an appropriate political group with a similar phylosophy to yourself that you can join.
While this may seem strange to some it is ultimately what the majority of voters have voted for a government who put through those laws, or not went against a government who put through the laws without voter support. Either way the laws exist because people support the or don't fight them. If you don't like the laws near where you are there is probably an appropriate political group with a similar phylosophy to yourself that you can join.
moral discrepancies with women (especially) or men taking monetary gain from something thats supposed to be special and intimate between two people.
Sex is what you make it, though. And I think that it would be one way for tax revenue, some people like having sex enough to merge that personal life with a work life. I think they should have that right to.
The problem comes with the illegality of it. Makes for underground dealings, unsafe environments, dangerous clients, more dangerous bosses, substance abuses, no regulation of the health of the girls or the customers.
That and the fact that most of the time, yes, it is a consensual agreement between 2 adults.
The stigma against prostitution would not go away if it were legalized, of course. Still deeply ingrained dislike against it out there that would never really go away. That and people use the same slippery-slope argument with something like gay marriage in that "what's next? marriage with dogs? horses?" becomes something like allowing the legalization of child prostitution. No, don't be crazy and use fear tactics. This can be discussed reasonably between people. But I do think it would help some women off the street and into something else or at least get them better conditions if they choose to keep their work
Sex is what you make it, though. And I think that it would be one way for tax revenue, some people like having sex enough to merge that personal life with a work life. I think they should have that right to.
The problem comes with the illegality of it. Makes for underground dealings, unsafe environments, dangerous clients, more dangerous bosses, substance abuses, no regulation of the health of the girls or the customers.
That and the fact that most of the time, yes, it is a consensual agreement between 2 adults.
The stigma against prostitution would not go away if it were legalized, of course. Still deeply ingrained dislike against it out there that would never really go away. That and people use the same slippery-slope argument with something like gay marriage in that "what's next? marriage with dogs? horses?" becomes something like allowing the legalization of child prostitution. No, don't be crazy and use fear tactics. This can be discussed reasonably between people. But I do think it would help some women off the street and into something else or at least get them better conditions if they choose to keep their work
Do you see any animals that have money? Can't pay for sex if you don't have money.Insanum said:
Yes, or call the cops if things get out of hand.
In the US, you can kill an intruder in self-defense. So I don't get why attacking an intruder a criminal offense? Didn't the RAF attack the intruding Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain?
But in the end, the person partaking in the sex is still getting paid like a prostitute would. Porn is like double-sided prostitution on film. Both people are getting paid to have sex on camera.
You can film prostitutes doing their thing and sell the videos as porn, so the point about the guy "having fun with Rosey Palm" would be there either way. Only difference between porn and prostitution is that both individuals are getting paid instead of just a single person making a profit.
Most of the problems caused by drugs and prostitution relate to drugs and prostitution being illegal. If we eliminated the laws, we'd eliminate a lot of the problems.
Funnily enough in the "Latest posts" bar this thread was situated above "Why can't I eat human?". In my opinion I should just wheel out Al Jaffee again and be done with it.
To me I think it's a degrading career and lifestyle, I mean, I don't want to sell my body (And that's not just because of the horrid ugliness...hehehe?) and I still hold up the love part of the act of making love. Besides, hypothetically let's say you were raising a daughter, would you want her to grow up with nothing to stop her from pursuing a life frought with danger (Just look at Vince Offer...slap-chopped) and disease?
To me I think it's a degrading career and lifestyle, I mean, I don't want to sell my body (And that's not just because of the horrid ugliness...hehehe?) and I still hold up the love part of the act of making love. Besides, hypothetically let's say you were raising a daughter, would you want her to grow up with nothing to stop her from pursuing a life frought with danger (Just look at Vince Offer...slap-chopped) and disease?
In Amsterdam the prostitutes pay tax and it is working fine.tehroc said:
The main thing is that prostitutes wil always exist, it is called the oldes proffesion for a reason. Making it illegal won't stop it and will just force the proffesion to be regulated by criminals.
If you make it legal you can regulate, protect and tax.
In Amsterdam the prostituse have there working rooms in the Red light district wich is in the center of the city.
They have a panick button in there room, when said button is pressed the police is notified and can send someone to go look.
They are checked for STD's and last but not least they have to fill in a tax-form.
Ok, Ill admit, I laughed at that.demoman_chaos said:
Thats called War.demoman_chaos said:
It is a double edged sword, Only porn is considered the "Lesser evil". The people that take part in those films are well aware of what happens in the industry. It'd be naive to say "no-one is forced into these films". Also, When it comes to those films, The actors arent payed for how many times they..."Perform", but for how many time their films are shown/sold.demoman_chaos said:
Once again, We're stuck with the issue of the Prostitue. Why is she in the industry? Now i know that you could[/I] ask adult movie stars that too, But that isnt the topic of the thread.demoman_chaos said:
legalizing prostitution wouldn't change the minimum age for sex, therefore wouldn't change the eligibility of these scenarios.D Bones said:
Very few pornographic actors earn residuals, those that do are usually also producers of their work. Many of them are in fact paid by the shoot...
I know a few gay porn websites where people have said that the producers (who costar) simply use pornography laws as way around prostitution laws. It's not at all hard to believe. I can't name names obviously but suffice it to say that they involve middle aged men with money having sex with much younger and attractive guys, who they pay.
It is still attacking an intruder. Them invading your home is like an army invading your country. Is it better to sit back and let the invader loot your village, or is it better to spill some blood and possibly save your family? Their blood our yours, which do you want spilled less?Insanum said:
Most prostitutes are also quite aware of the dangers of their industry. Those in countries where it is legal do it willingly like "actors" in porn movies do it willingly.
Most actors are usually paid a flat-rate for their services. They normally don't get paid more if the movie does well. They likely get bonuses after the fact, but most don't get much of a post-release bonus.
If she was willingly in the industry, she probably is doing so for the same reasons a porn star would. A paycheck between jobs, not as a final career.
Euhm dude I would tell you to come to Holland prostitution IS legal here.
And you know why? Because you need a license to be a prostitute.
And you know why? Because you need a license to be a prostitute.
for alot of people, I think they fail to see the diffrence between cubside prostitution, and brothels, brothels could be legalized, curb-side cannot. That sidesteps alot of problems in
Insanum's argument, and drug dependancy and other methods of bondage would be removed because of government regulation, overall, legalization would serve to protect the women involved in the sex trade. (in terms of children, that will happen regardless of the law, it should stay illegal of course, its disgusting!!! in the end, outright banning somthing not clearly depraved (again, no child sex!)only exaperates the problem, during prohibition, more people injured themselved making bathroom Jin, and the Mob made more money, than almost any other time before or since! Hell, Prohibition is why there is an American mob!
Insanum's argument, and drug dependancy and other methods of bondage would be removed because of government regulation, overall, legalization would serve to protect the women involved in the sex trade. (in terms of children, that will happen regardless of the law, it should stay illegal of course, its disgusting!!! in the end, outright banning somthing not clearly depraved (again, no child sex!)only exaperates the problem, during prohibition, more people injured themselved making bathroom Jin, and the Mob made more money, than almost any other time before or since! Hell, Prohibition is why there is an American mob!
This is the problem with legalizing something currently illegal;demoman_chaos said:
People are doing it illegally now anyway. You think they'd simply stop selling their bodies because they don't have a license saying the can do it legally? Of course not!
As for my view on it, I don't see why it's illegal. I would never pay for sex, but I don't look down on people that do.