Why is USA richer than Mexico?

goodman528

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Both were:

discovered by the Europeans
settled by the Europeans
big countries with large population
has abundant natural resources
has access to the pacific and the Atlantic
not threatened with invasion except from each other

But why is USA a superpower, and Mexico so poor?
 

Fronken

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USA can thank alot of its development into a rich nation on the fact that they brought in alot more slaves than mexico ever did (if mexico even had slavery?).

Slavery is an aweful thing and should be stopped wherever its used, but one cant argue the fact that it did help build USA.
 

Zetona

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Simple. The US got more immigrants from Europe, because the area was more contested, more resource-rich, and less disease-prone due to the colder temperatures. Mexico never overcame that disadvantage.

Also, you can't forget that the US bought half of Mexico in 1848 for $15 million.
 

Zetona

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Fronken said:
USA can thank alot of its development into a rich nation on the fact that they brought in alot more slaves than mexico ever did (if mexico even had slavery?).

Slavery is an aweful thing and should be stopped wherever its used, but one cant argue the fact that it did help build USA.
I don't think Mexico ever had slavery. Certainly, settlers in Texas in the 1830s had to free their slaves.
 

RavingPenguin

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Hmm... good question. (ponders) I would have to say its because 1) America broke free of its european influences much earlier than mexico. 2) The US is much more advanced industrially. and 3) the US has a larger population, who all want to become wealthy. I cant really think of any other reasons.
 

JoshasorousRex

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US used slaves maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLzo9pOXa-s

Well to me it makes lots of sense because slaves are completely free. Oh and talking about how countries got rich how did MY country CANADA get so rich?
 

Dramatic Flare

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Because the Spanish raped the land of all its gold and resources, and most likely the natives too. they left nothing for Mexico to revitalize itself with. The United States region still had abundant natural resources, such as coal and iron- things that wouldn't be needed until the industrial revolution.

Oh, and America had its own slaves. That helped.
 

maddawg IAJI

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Becuase of Americas agriculture. See Mexico is to hot to grow very profitable crops where as America could harvest diffrent crops all over. This gave America the chance to make a profit. This profit allowed us to Build a national road, Canals,Railroads, And factories. All of which led to us making more money. During all of this Mexcio was in a war with Spain (and wars are never profitable when your the defending side.)
 

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When the British/Germans colonised, they set up a functioning country. When the Spanish colonised, they set up a looting operation. Then again as far as colonies go maybe America was set up TOO well. Heh.

Immediately better results for the homeland, but not as good in the long run. Plus America has better conditions for long term settling. Plus now, the people who should be fixing Mexico up are just trying to get into America, making a vicious circle...
 

Heytred

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It could have something to due with the fact that Mexico had 31 rebellions in 30 years during the reign of Santa Anna. This was during the Industrial Revolution when most other countries were building their infrastructure. Mexico was also conquered by Spain, Britain, France, and USA. During these times the Mexican people eventually rose up and booted out there conqueror's only to elect some corrupt or incompetent moron.
In short, Mexicans are bad at war, great at rebellions, but really need to work on installing better leaders.

PS- Mexico did have slaves, they just pressed the indigenous population (i.e. Aztecs, Mayans, Zacatecanos etc.) into slavery instead of importing them from Africa.
 

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the US had more allies, during colonization, cause no one really liked the Spanish, proven when the US stole a half million square miles from them in the 1840's, in my opinion had the Mexicans still held that region which contains California (who, if they seceded would be the 6th largest economy in the world) and the entire southwest would be a lot better off. Also Mexico had a dictatorship for awhile which never ends well.

so in otherwords
1.) Few allies ,late independence :. slower development

2.) The US pretty much pillaged all their stuff

3.) Santa Anna who went to too many wars, consistently combating the US and wasting the nations money

4.) Its too far south to be of any GREAT trade importance ill show you http://www.frontiernet.net/%7Ekf2b/kf2b/images_raw/KF2B_Azimuth_Map.gif
as you can see from the azimuthal view of the earth by worldly scales, the US North East is mere seconds away from the then super powerful Europe compared to Mexico. (remember during the colonial period that distance was an extra few months to cover)

5.) colonial powers within the zones, Mexico was colonized by only Spain the north was England AND FRANCE AND OTHER EURO NATIONS this means a larger influx of people (mexico actually paid people to get them to work, and the majority of the population were religious leaders to "tame" locals)and inevitably more money.

6.) Finally it may seem like a stretch but language barriers, English at the time was really widely spoken unlike Spanish so unfortunately they were isolated from the rest of N. America as Canada and the US both spoke english.

Today Mexico's main barrier is probably the WTO and NAFTA which artificially make other nations more competitive then their own crops making their agriculture not as effective as a true free market system.

sorry for the caps got emotional. i love hegemony topics.

and Mexico did have slaves, they used more Native American Slaves and remember the Caribbean was held by the Spanish (and french) which was the main hub for slave trade in the New World.
 

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Zetona said:
Fronken said:
USA can thank alot of its development into a rich nation on the fact that they brought in alot more slaves than mexico ever did (if mexico even had slavery?).

Slavery is an aweful thing and should be stopped wherever its used, but one cant argue the fact that it did help build USA.
I don't think Mexico ever had slavery. Certainly, settlers in Texas in the 1830s had to free their slaves.
10 years later, they were their own country... ;)
 

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Danzaivar said:
When the British/Germans colonised, they set up a functioning country. When the Spanish colonised, they set up a looting operation. Then again as far as colonies go maybe America was set up TOO well. Heh.

Immediately better results for the homeland, but not as good in the long run. Plus America has better conditions for long term settling. Plus now, the people who should be fixing Mexico up are just trying to get into America, making a vicious circle...
I concur with this statement.
 

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The USA were also in more wars then Mexico which does bring in more money overall but also produces debt. Also USA was more of a agricultural region while Mexico I think (correct me if i'm wrong) is mostly dirt and is too hot to grow anything.
 

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Freakout456 said:
The USA were also in more wars then Mexico which does bring in more money overall but also produces debt. Also USA was more of a agricultural region while Mexico I think (correct me if i'm wrong) is mostly dirt and is too hot to grow anything.
as for the war thing yep the US stole about half of mexico's land in 1848

you are correct the entire mexican north is desert. you have to be in the far south to grow anything other than cacti and poppy for heroine.
 

Danzaivar

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Heytred said:
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During these times the Mexican people eventually rose up and booted out there conqueror's only to elect some corrupt or incompetent moron.
In short, Mexicans are bad at war, great at rebellions, but really need to work on installing better leaders.
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This is a damn good point, America threw off the 'shackles of oppression' and set up their Constitutional Republic which was designed to prevent Tyranny. Mexico just elected someone new and just hoped it would work this time...You reckon if they actually sorted out their countries foundations after one of their many rebellions, they'd be competitive today?

It's definitely food for thought...