Why Ladies Ruled the 2015 Summer Movie Season

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Why Ladies Ruled the 2015 Summer Movie Season

Five movies that showcased the power of women in film this summer.

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I think the title is a little off, since with the exception of Mad Max none of these movies really had a major splash with critics nor did they preform that well. That's not to say they where flops, but they where not smash hits either. Plus, didn't three of these have the named badass women be one or two members of a larger casts of typical action movie heroes? Given how this is an archetype which has been around since the 1970s in big budget cinema which is seeing about as much popularity now as it was 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 years ago, I don't really see what the fuss on social media about "more of the same" which has been around longer then most of those praising it have been alive stems from, and I honestly don't see the point in this article's title being so misleading. I mean I was expecting Mad Max and Trainwreak, but I would have thought the other three constitute making the cut given what was being talked about. There where probably more deserving movies.
 

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All i saw was "Why Furiosa Ruled the 2015 Summer Movie Season". Anything else was meh compared to it.
Except Antman, but Antman is more about Antman anyway, both Antmans i mean... Antman.
 

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I didn't see any of these movies.

My favorite movie of the year was either Jurassic World or Kingsmen, for entirely different reasons. I saw, but did not like very much, Age of Ultron (I thought it was hammy, overdone and with a meandering final fight plot - seriously disappointing).

Pretty much everything on that list I wasn't interested in seeing. Being a huge comic book fan you'd assume I'd be interested in Ant-Man, but once I got the thumbnail of the plot I gave it a miss.

Btw, out of that list, here are their relative rankings by US domestic gross.

Mission Impossible - #7
Ant Man - #9
Mad Max: Fury Road - #15
Trainwreck - #18
Man from U.N.C.L.E. - #35

Jurassic World, of course, was #1 followed by Age of Ultron (but not very closely, it made 200 million less).
 

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shanto1138 said:
Five movies that showcased the power of women in film this summer.
The Roadhouse remake should be interesting then, since a female is taking the lead male action role.
 

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Oh...we're not going with its popular and PC, which generates buzz and positive publicity.

Okay then.

By the way, did any of those movies actually do well? I saw 2 of them, Antman and Mad Max(both males in the titles. Yeah, I see what you mean about women ruling them!) and both of those movies did...okay at the box office at best.
 

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I never saw Mad Max, but from what I heard, that woman just owns the entire movie. And seeing as it's her face I see on most of the advertisements, I believe it. Even Honest Trailers pointed it out.

I am looking forward to seeing to seeing Hope as Wasp in the next movie, because Ant-Man did a really good job of showing why it should have been her in the suit.
 

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I'm gonna be that Grammar Nazi, but the first line of this is "With 2014's anemic slate and underwhelming box-office, 2015 had its work cut out for it."

Doesn't having your work cut out for you mean something that is difficult to achieve? If 2014 was anemic and underwhelming, wouldn't 2015 have things easy and be the opposite of having its work cut out for it?

Ok, grammar dork mode complete.
 

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Guys women can't rule the box office if there was only 1 movie. So we have to make up other examples. THATS HOW THIS WORKS
 

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Women ruled movies?
I thought it was just a few sexists who only care about the character's sex. You know, the people who say we MUST have more men/women in movies or we MUST like men/women-led movies for no other reason than the lead's sex. Kinda like this article, actually...
 

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Clearly we need some kind of of MOVEMENT to prevent pro-female bias in movies! We can call it Moviegate! It's about ethics in movie journalism!
 

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Whats up with this pointless clickbait article? It's like you've never seen a female character in a movie before...
 

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What about Ex Machina?
I'll second that! Alicia Vikander was more of a positive female role model. Albeit, she was an android. I do not want to spoil the movie if you haven't seen it. Let me just say, Ava (Alicia Vikander's character) demonstrated how you overcome the "Patriarchy".

I thought Trainwreck was overrated. All they did was gender-flip a typical Judd Apatow romantic-comedy. I thought Rikki & The Flash mined the same emotional material, that Trainwreck glibly tried to do, with a lot more heart and better acting.

How about Spy? Melissa McCarthy hilarious comedy/action movie. Her character overcame self-doubt and low expectations from co-workers and superiors to become a better person at the end of the movie.

Forget the haters, I liked how Black Widow was fleshed out in Age of Ultron. I thought it was beautifully done and humane. Except...
She made Bruce Banner turned into The Hulk against his will. No doubt, if the genders were reversed, people would have been complaining that was a rape analogy.

Even though, Kingsmen and Jupiter Ascending may be considered Spring releases. Those were also movies that featured strong, positive female characters.

Even though they were animated, do you have no love for Inside Out? Joy and Sadness inside her head, or even for Riley herself?
 

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008Zulu said:
shanto1138 said:
Five movies that showcased the power of women in film this summer.
The Roadhouse remake should be interesting then, since a female is taking the lead male action role.
Seriously?

Not only did Roadhouse not require a remake, but to change the role from male to female in hopes of snagging those liberal dollars is sorta nauseating.
 

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Clearly we need some kind of of MOVEMENT to prevent pro-female bias in movies! We can call it Moviegate! It's about ethics in movie journalism!
Oh ho ho HO you have no idea how I want that to happen and used agasint Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Cinemasins, and Red Letter Media.
 

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Maphysto said:
Clearly we need some kind of of MOVEMENT to prevent pro-female bias in movies! We can call it Moviegate! It's about ethics in movie journalism!
Oh ho ho HO you have no idea how I want that to happen and used agasint Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Cinemasins, and Red Letter Media.
I can understand Bob being targeted (half his work includes political rants that are unwarrented) but why Red Letter Media?
 

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Yeah, Mad Max is the only one that makes sense in that context. And The Avengers because of Black Widow of course. The rest was just grasping for straws. Overall I wouldn't say that this year was particularly good for female characters. Especially compared to 2014. There's nothing about those other movies that makes female characters stand out any more than in any other movie. They're just standard female characters.

Last year was actually better. Think about it: Lucy, Edge of Tomorrow, The Hunger Games (for those who actually care about that crappy franchise), Maleficent, Gone Girl (yeah, I know. But she was still a strong female character), Interstellar and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Probably more but these are the ones that immediately come to mind.

So there's a badass soldier in a mecha, a woman that can use the full potential of her brain (don't even start), a powerful sorceress, a manipulating psychopath, a scientist/astronaut, a spy and whatever The Hunger Games chick is. Some kind of revolutionary I guess.
 

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Good to see that despite the amount of hidden and blatant gender politics in the articles on this site, the community and forums have kept their integrity. It has become quite laughable at how bad most of the gender politics articles are. Blatant propaganda and bias up the bum. Its a complete waste of time reading what these cretins write.
 

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This may be a case of confirmation bias. Reviewers are looking for something special in these and so find them and as such think that five examples somehow means "domination" when the numbers simply don't add up to that. A handful of examples does not a domination make.

We are at least getting better written female characters for once. So we are at least seeing an improvement in this area. But you definitely jumped the gun here. Might as well have made a picture of you on a carrier ship with a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

In a few years we'll be closer to that mark if these end up becoming more profitable than they were this year. They seem to do a lot better in movies that are still led by males or in comedies. For example, I'm surprised Spy wasn't referenced here since it was female led and clearly performed far better with movie goers than most of the other references made here.
 

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Zontar said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Maphysto said:
Clearly we need some kind of of MOVEMENT to prevent pro-female bias in movies! We can call it Moviegate! It's about ethics in movie journalism!
Oh ho ho HO you have no idea how I want that to happen and used agasint Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Cinemasins, and Red Letter Media.
I can understand Bob being targeted (half his work includes political rants that are unwarrented) but why Red Letter Media?
Its not that Red Letter Media spouts politically correct/SJW nonsense. Its just that at times I feel all these internet movie reviewers are in bed with each other and their personally nerd bias. I mean Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckmann I think, they all said the same damn thing in their reviews of Fantastic Four 2015. Even word for word like mentioning the Roger Corman 90s moive still sucks but it was probably the best it could ever be as a Fantastic Four movie.

I mean shit I heard that already in from moviebob, no need to hear it again from Red Letter Media.

And don't get me started with their obvious bias for Marvel Superhero movies.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Zontar said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Maphysto said:
Clearly we need some kind of of MOVEMENT to prevent pro-female bias in movies! We can call it Moviegate! It's about ethics in movie journalism!
Oh ho ho HO you have no idea how I want that to happen and used agasint Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Cinemasins, and Red Letter Media.
I can understand Bob being targeted (half his work includes political rants that are unwarrented) but why Red Letter Media?
Its not that Red Letter Media spouts politically correct/SJW nonsense. Its just that at times I feel all these internet movie reviewers are in bed with each other and their personally nerd bias. I mean Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckmann I think, they all said the same damn thing in their reviews of Fantastic Four 2015. Even word for word like mentioning the Roger Corman 90s moive still sucks but it was probably the best it could ever be as a Fantastic Four movie.

I mean shit I heard that already in from moviebob, no need to hear it again from Red Letter Media.

And don't get me started with their obvious bias for Marvel Superhero movies.
I'm going to agree with Zontar here, I think you've mis-associated RLM with groups they simply aren't a part of.

Also, people saying a similar thing after watching the same movie isn't some amazingly rare coincidence. Perhaps you could cite some evidence here rather than making allusions to it?
 

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Its not that Red Letter Media spouts politically correct/skeleton nonsense. Its just that at times I feel all these internet movie reviewers are in bed with each other and their personally nerd bias. I mean Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckmann I think, they all said the same damn thing in their reviews of Fantastic Four 2015. Even word for word like mentioning the Roger Corman 90s moive still sucks but it was probably the best it could ever be as a Fantastic Four movie.

I mean shit I heard that already in from moviebob, no need to hear it again from Red Letter Media.
Could it be that experienced film buffs who have seen more movies by the age of forty than we'll see in our lifetime can develop and share opinions and insights about films and that they could have a greater knowledge of cinema to draw from when going into detail about the films they're reviewing because of this experience as well as general interest in cinema and the production of films as an artform? Could it be that all the people you're describing have prior extensive regarding "nerd interests" like comics books that informs how they view movies specifically adapted "nerd interest" media like comics and videogames?

No, its the children who are wrong.

And don't get me started with their obvious bias for Marvel Superhero movies.
MovieBob gave both Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises positive reviews upon release, which I know clashes with at least RLM's reviews of those films. Meanwhile Green Lantern was generally universally reviled by critics and even audiences because, well, you saw it, right?
 

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Ihateregistering1 said:
I'm gonna be that Grammar Nazi, but the first line of this is "With 2014's anemic slate and underwhelming box-office, 2015 had its work cut out for it."

Doesn't having your work cut out for you mean something that is difficult to achieve? If 2014 was anemic and underwhelming, wouldn't 2015 have things easy and be the opposite of having its work cut out for it?

Ok, grammar dork mode complete.
I've actually heard it to mean the exact opposite my entire life. Googling it brings back conflicting results. Maybe its a regional thing?
 

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Zontar said:
I think the title is a little off, since with the exception of Mad Max none of these movies really had a major splash with critics nor did they preform that well.
Well, Mission Impossible 5 has already made over $650 million, it has a 7.7 score on IMDB, a 92% critic score and a 90% audience score on Rottentomatoes so I would say that it's both a critical and a financial hit.

Also, what about Pitch Perfect 2?
The movie that made 10x it's budget, in which all the main cast were women?
If you're picking movies where women were the supporting cast, like Ant Man, I thing PP2 deserves a spot on this list as well.
It even beat Mad Max at the box office in it's opening weekend.
 

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What the fuck even is this shit.
Social-political pandering with a side of bias. Focusing on a gender "winning a movie year" being pretty childish, especially when a lot of these sorts of articles carry the notion that women haven't had many good characters in movies and shows over the years. Generally they focus on "women who have power" rather than "women characters who are well written" and that pisses off people with a brain.
 

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Well, I mean, if we're talking in context:
Speaking of trends, there was one in particular that stood out (other than the healthy dose of remakes and reboots out there): the female presence. I'm not talking about the Pitch Perfects, which had its very own blockbuster sequel in May thank you very much, but in films typically geared towards males and fanboys.
...it could very well be that stuff like Inside Out or Pitch Perfect 2 were simply outside the purview of the article, and that the article itself may be the opinion on a subjective matter by the author.

But yeah, probably just good ol' propaganda. Why bother trying to see the author's point of view when strawmen and broad generalizations are so much easier.
 

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Vanilla_Knight said:
MC1980 said:
What the fuck even is this shit.
Social-political pandering with a side of bias. Focusing on a gender "winning a movie year" being pretty childish, especially when a lot of these sorts of articles carry the notion that women haven't had many good characters in movies and shows over the years. Generally they focus on "women who have power" rather than "women characters who are well written" and that pisses off people with a brain.
I thought The Escapist through out all these kinds of people after the purge of Moviebob and Jim Sterling and added people who are Pro GamerGate.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Its not that Red Letter Media spouts politically correct/skeleton nonsense. Its just that at times I feel all these internet movie reviewers are in bed with each other and their personally nerd bias. I mean Screen Junkies, Moviebob, Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckmann I think, they all said the same damn thing in their reviews of Fantastic Four 2015. Even word for word like mentioning the Roger Corman 90s moive still sucks but it was probably the best it could ever be as a Fantastic Four movie.

I mean shit I heard that already in from moviebob, no need to hear it again from Red Letter Media.
Could it be that experienced film buffs who have seen more movies by the age of forty than we'll see in our lifetime can develop and share opinions and insights about films and that they could have a greater knowledge of cinema to draw from when going into detail about the films they're reviewing because of this experience as well as general interest in cinema and the production of films as an artform? Could it be that all the people you're describing have prior extensive regarding "nerd interests" like comics books that informs how they view movies specifically adapted "nerd interest" media like comics and videogames?

No, its the children who are wrong.

And don't get me started with their obvious bias for Marvel Superhero movies.
MovieBob gave both Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises positive reviews upon release, which I know clashes with at least RLM's reviews of those films. Meanwhile Green Lantern was generally universally reviled by critics and even audiences because, well, you saw it, right?
I have been around since the time of DCAU. I have bought the most well known comic books of DC in recent years from Comixology.

(I am more a DC guy than Marvel and I am one of thos DC fans that does not just care about only Batman I like all the heroes)

I recognize that the latest Fantastic Four is a rather lackluster movie even though I have not seen it myself yet, but damn I feel like I have hearing a broken record after watching many reviews of it.

As for Green Lantern well i saw the first half of it (it was on TV passing) and to me it was really not the worse thing I have ever seen.

And moviebob did bash Man of Steel he put it as the #1 worst movie of 2013.
 

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Oh...we're not going with its popular and PC, which generates buzz and positive publicity.

Okay then.

By the way, did any of those movies actually do well? I saw 2 of them, Antman and Mad Max(both males in the titles. Yeah, I see what you mean about women ruling them!) and both of those movies did...okay at the box office at best.
Only The Man from U.N.C.L.E. did poorly, making $99 million thus far against like a $70 million budget and basically starting dead in the water. At least Terminator Genisys eventually doubled its budget in revenue.

I'm pretty sure women weren't the main focus of these films anyway (except Fury Road from what I've heard). I mean sure the women in U.N.C.L.E. and Ant-Man were cool, but they weren't the main reasons people saw them.
 

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No, just no. I have no issue with the article and the clickbait title, in theory, but out of those movies, the only one that truly stands out is Furiosa. She gets so massive levels of badassery that outshines even the title character, which is not so uncommon in the Mad Mad franchise, but still.

Out of the other movies the other choices are nothing more than support characters. At least movies like Spy or Pitch Perfect were more honest on their ambitions of creating decent female characters, but these just sounds like they have a strong female character because they have a strong everything character anyway, so why not throw the girl audience a bone, right?

I guess I should be grateful they didn't include the lackluster Black Widow in it, because at some points even Scarlet Witch was handled better.
 

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Evonisia said:
I'm pretty sure women weren't the main focus of these films anyway (except Fury Road from what I've heard). I mean sure the women in U.N.C.L.E. and Ant-Man were cool, but they weren't the main reasons people saw them.
Problem with Fury Road is that Furiosa wasn't always in charge(being a slave and all...) and although she had a good plan, it would have failed were it not for Mad Max, who she never planned on helping her.

Basically there would be no plot without Furiosa, but there would be no happy ending without Mad. He literally saves her life multiple times. I would argue its less of a feminist story and more of a gender equality story. She was a better shot, he was a better driver and brawler. They worked well together.

The End as far as I can tell. Furiosa gets just as many props as Max does, which is fucking amazing because they're both badasses.
 

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So there's a badass soldier in a mecha, a woman that can use the full potential of her brain (don't even start), a powerful sorceress, a manipulating psychopath, a scientist/astronaut, a spy and whatever The Hunger Games chick is. Some kind of revolutionary I guess.
Eh, I'd argue against Maleficent and Lucy personally. Maleficent everyone is either Chaotic Stupid or just a bunch of morons that can't ever be right in that movie if they aren't the titular character. And Lucy...just always seemed very similar in that she was only the "hero" because everyone else was worse(though I could be wrong, I've tried watching it three times and I've either fallen asleep or gotten too bored to actually continue watching). I just don't think you can seriously take them as actually heroic when everyone else has to be braindead for it to work the way it pans out...

OT:

Honestly I've only heard of two of these movies before reading this...So I think they may not have ruled as supremely as the article's saying. Especially considering Mission Impossible's nearly ALWAYS been carried by everyone not Tom Cruise(not to knock him, he's gotten better as he's gotten older, but he's never been a reason a movie is considered good, at least not until he hit his 40's and nobody he worked with was still working or refused to work with him), and Schumer is sickeningly predictable(like seriously, Trainwreck is just one of her dreadfully awful stand-up routines in movie form).
 

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I recognize that the latest Fantastic Four is a rather lackluster movie even though I have not seen it myself yet, but damn I feel like I have hearing a broken record after watching many reviews of it.
And? Would you make the same complaint for Pixels or Jack & Jill?

And moviebob did bash Man of Steel he put it as the #1 worst movie of 2013.
"There are moments when Man of Steel looks and feels damn near perfect"

"Yes, I repeat, this is not a bad movie"

"The parts that work work like gangbusters"

Thats from his review. Then in the Worst of 2013 video...

"Were there objectively worse movies than Man of Steel this year? Yes, but none of them were more infuriating, none of them were more disappointing against their own unrealized potential"

"This is Superman, dammit. Thats supposed to mean something. Thats supposed to mean you try harder."

He makes it clear that its more disappointing than intolerably bad, and that its coming from such a talented team of people. I'm of the same mindset myself even though I couldn't disagree with him more on things he disliked, such as cynical Pa Kent.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I recognize that the latest Fantastic Four is a rather lackluster movie even though I have not seen it myself yet, but damn I feel like I have hearing a broken record after watching many reviews of it.
And? Would you make the same complaint for Pixels or Jack & Jill?

And moviebob did bash Man of Steel he put it as the #1 worst movie of 2013.
"There are moments when Man of Steel looks and feels damn near perfect"

"Yes, I repeat, this is not a bad movie"

"The parts that work work like gangbusters"

Thats from his review. Then in the Worst of 2013 video...

"Were there objectively worse movies than Man of Steel this year? Yes, but none of them were more infuriating, none of them were more disappointing against their own unrealized potential"

"This is Superman, dammit. Thats supposed to mean something. Thats supposed to mean you try harder."

He makes it clear that its more disappointing than intolerably bad, and that its coming from such a talented team of people. I'm of the same mindset myself even though I couldn't disagree with him more on things he disliked, such as cynical Pa Kent.
1. Yes specifically for Pixles. And holy crap Moviebob felt like his 5 year old self was violated by Adam Sandler. (Did not affect me since my first console was the N64)

2. I did not find Man of Steel dissipointing at all. There were silly moments yes, but there were also good moments also. I mean Zod was such a great villain. (So great that its a shame they used him so early) and what he said about Man of Steel already still makes it all the more confusing that he place it on #1 and even then he still bashes the movie.

Not only that he is constantly comparing the upcoming DC movies as 90s comic books the movie. I doubt the new movies are going to tackle the worst of 90s comic books. I mean we can rest assured that they will not adapt Superman At Earth's End:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WpE1MScgT8

And that comic book makes me question why The Death of Superman comic is looked down upon.
 

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Eh, I'd argue against Maleficent and Lucy personally. Maleficent everyone is either Chaotic Stupid or just a bunch of morons that can't ever be right in that movie if they aren't the titular character. And Lucy...just always seemed very similar in that she was only the "hero" because everyone else was worse(though I could be wrong, I've tried watching it three times and I've either fallen asleep or gotten too bored to actually continue watching). I just don't think you can seriously take them as actually heroic when everyone else has to be braindead for it to work the way it pans out...
They don't need to be particularly heroic to be better examples of female characters in movies. They're both powerful leading female characters in big blockbuster movies. The characters in this abysmal list can't hold a candle to them. It's just a bunch of standard run-of-the-mill female characters that have exited in the movies for decades. This article shouldn't exist because it reveals just the opposite of what it's trying to accomplish.