Why Movies Suck Now Part One: The Myths

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Why Movies Suck Now Part One: The Myths

Movies may suck these days, but these aren't the reasons why.

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Onyx Oblivion

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Is one the the REAL reasons:

Teenage and tween GIRLS?

You know...the aforementioned Twilight.

High School Musical and its ilk.
 

Axolotl

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V? Really using V for Vendetta as an examplem against movies being too political?

I'll admit I'm not expert on the movie but the comic is about as political as it gets.
 

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Axolotl said:
V? Really using V for Vendetta as an examplem against movies being too political?

I'll admit I'm not expert on the movie but the comic is about as political as it gets.
I think he meant as in divided politically. It mixes right and left wing ideas.

I've never seen it or read it, and have no intention to. But interpreting Moviebob, that's what I got.
 

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Meh, i don't really care about movies anyway. It's a dying industry that leeches off other types of media.
 

Sylocat

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Finally, someone putting into words what I've been thinking all this time.

Can't wait to hear what you think the real reasons are.
 

Axolotl

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Axolotl said:
V? Really using V for Vendetta as an examplem against movies being too political?

I'll admit I'm not expert on the movie but the comic is about as political as it gets.
I think he meant as in divided politically. It mixes right and left wing ideas.

I've never seen it or read it, and have no intention to. But interpreting Moviebob, that's what I got.
Yeah but the comic at least is very left wing. About as left wing as you can get. It's basically Alan Moore ranting about Thatcher. It had moral ambiguity but not much political ambiguity.
 

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Axolotl said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Axolotl said:
V? Really using V for Vendetta as an examplem against movies being too political?

I'll admit I'm not expert on the movie but the comic is about as political as it gets.
I think he meant as in divided politically. It mixes right and left wing ideas.

I've never seen it or read it, and have no intention to. But interpreting Moviebob, that's what I got.
Yeah but the comic at least is very left wing. About as left wing as you can get. It's basically Alan Moore ranting about Thatcher. It had moral ambiguity but not much political ambiguity.
The problem is the the political scale is in fact a square, and not a line. In america, people try to cut that square diagonally for the two-party dichotomy: Liberals are Left\Authoritarian, and conservatives are Right\Libertarian. V for vendetta challenges this notion by making the hero Left\Libertarian.

Of course, it's an entirely false dichotomy, but that's just where the chips at the present.
 

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I will say the one myth that really grates my nerves is the bullshit "NOTHING IS ORIGINAL!" phrase which comes from EVERY DAMN MEDIUM. Hell, even brilliant, visionary guys like Tolkien and William Gibson (speaking of which, if anyone likes Inception go check out the Sprawl Trilogy by Gibson, it's fantastic) borrowed things from various sources. Every time someone says that I wanna slap them. Influential isolation is IMPOSSIBLE
 

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My big problem with sequels is not their existence, its the fact that they seem to either be going too far (shrek 4? 3 was terrible) or they dig up something that was semi-recent and make really really piss poor sequels that try to BE the originals but don't make it. (Indy! noooooooooo!)

From what I hear, the A-team sequel is a good one. Not trying to BE the original but not straying too far from it.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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I think all of hollywood's problems have ONE single source, money. Films have the ability to be wildly successful beyound anybodies dreams or put the studio in so much dept they have to go bankrupt. This risk vs. reward enviroment has made every studio scrambling to find what makes money and more importantly, what MADE money. Story, characters, and orginality are rarely part of the equation. CGI, action, and adaptions ussually are. There are exceptions, Pixar being able to go by since every film has been a hit and allowed studios to make even more in toy tie ins.
 

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vivaldiscool said:
The problem is the the political scale is in fact a square, and not a line. In america, people try to cut that square diagonally for the two-party dichotomy: Liberals are Left\Authoritarian, and conservatives are Right\Libertarian. V for vendetta challenges this notion by making the hero Left\Libertarian.

Of course, it's an entirely false dichotomy, but that's just where the chips at the present.
Juding it by an American political viepoint maybe. But judged from an Englich point of view? Anarchism has always been left wing. Always.
 

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Hollywood movies are usually bad, I don't know what the issue is. Outside of Hollywood, American cinema is pretty strong as it's always been, with indie directors such as Tarantino, Soderbergh, and Spike Lee showing Hollywood how it's done. British cinema has retained its quality in terms of acting and direction. French and Belgian cinema has become better and more adventurous, I would argue, in recent times than in the past, with films such as Irreversible and Ex Drummer. The Japanese horror genre has exploded in popularity and quality over the past two decades. We've been lucky to be importing a lot of quality Korean cinema in recent times also, Park Chan-wook's films in particular.

I suppose if you go to big-money cinemas showing Hollywood films all the time you're bound to think films are in decline.
 

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Quick: Can you think of a functional premise somehow involving a hungry, hungry hippo? Because that might be worth money right now.
Been watching robot chicken lately Bob?
 

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Somehow I thought he would dedicate this week to the Mel Gibson thing.
 

Villa Idiot

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Interesting article. You hear most of these myths a lot unfortunately. Oh, and not that it really matters but Philip Marlowe was a detective in Raymond Chandler's books. Sam Spade and the Maltese Falcon were written by Dashiell Hammett.
 

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It boils down to this: Hollywood makes movies that have made money before.

Someone makes a movie, critically it bombs. But people see it, it makes a lot of money.

Hollywood continues to exploit this trend of making movies that make money.

It doesn't matter what kind of movie it is, they'll keep doing it. Remember when spoof movies were huge? They made a lot of them. They made a lot of torture porn because of Saw and Hostel, now there's not much of it with the exception of the annual Saw movie.
 

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Interesting read, but I don't believe your key assumption for your political argument: liberal-movie making only turns off the 25% of right-wingers who care enough to vote. Rather, making movies that appeal to strong left-wing politics appeals to only 25% of viewers. Whether the rest of the 75% of movie goers are turned off by the ideals (the 25% of right-wingers), or just turned off by political extremism (the 50% of people who are apathetic/anti-political) is a whole different issue.

If movie makers are only appealing to left-wingers, that's only 25% of America. Hollywood politics can still be blamed for movie suckage.
 

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Yeah about the political leanings of movie makers and their movies. I swear my brother can pic those out every friggin time. Its kind of annoying actually. I'm like why can't you just watch a movie and enjoy it?

Me I'm not so critical. I can usually tell if I'm going to like a movie from the previews. If I don't think i'll like it. I just won't go see it. And I love movies.

Yeah it gets tiring that they are doing remakes alot more. But that stuff has been going on for a long time(like bob said). Even with music. It was just harder back then to find the information to prove your point. Now its just a google search away.