Wii U Not a Threat to PS3, Says Sony Boss

[Atmos Duality]

"Technologically," he said. "I don't think it's possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have."

That is the single most fucking stupid thing I have read all day.
Are Sony's higher-ups arrogant to the point of being delusional?
WE ARE ALREADY WELL PAST THE PS3 IN TERMS OF TECH.

In terms of tech, the WiiU looks to be solid for a current console. But if Nintendo's track record is any indication (since the late 90s), it will once again lack much of what I want to play barring some 1st party stuff due to an alarming absence of 3rd party support.

 

[Innegativeion]

It's not judgemental in the least. I've had it with Gimmicks like the Wiimote, Kinect and Move. This massive controller is just another gimmick which they'll force on us.

Therefore, I have every right to judge them. They should know better. It's just another Wii.

Touch screen, the most widely used recent innovation in user interface technology (see: tablets, most smart phones, atms, automatic ticket counters, the financially and critically successful nintendo DS) is now a gimmick.

Surely, "they should know better" than to use one of the most useful technologies in the world for their video game controllers!

Also, you refuse to even consider buying Nintendo's new console because, apparently, you've had it with wii remote, the Kinect and Move (Two of the three have nothing to do with nintendo.) Which is, of course silly because the Wiiu's controller has motion controls superfluously. The touch screen and basic buttons are very clearly the focus.

You also know little to nothing about the WiiU in general, unless you're clairvoyant.

See, you have no right to judge them. And yes, you're being "jedgemental", and jumping to conclusions.

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I think "gimmick" is starting to become one of those arrogant words that are tossed around so carelessly nowadays, it's lost all meaning or intelligence.

Like "fanboy" or "manchild"

 

[BrotherRool]

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My insomnia rewards you! Or something.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1177107p1.html

Here's Sega expressing how easy the Wii U (que the siren jokes) is to develop for. There is a qualified statement about porting from the 360 and PS3 that can be read multiple ways.

With an added quote about the asymmetrical gameplay. An excellent find!

I hope the other developers don't go for this no-port business though

 

[Hamish Durie]

why would a casual gaming platform be of any danger to a massive hardcore console the PS3 or 360 and techoly wise who cares as long as the framrate doesn't but fuk itself and we can still play the game it doesn't really matter to me anyway

 

[Hobohodo]

Too early to say for sure. A touchscreen was blasted for being "gimicky". So were 3D capabilities. Don't forget how cell phones 1st started, that was priceless. But more to my response...There is too much talk about "ports" and the Wii shovelware. Nintendo really lacked 3rd party support for the Wii mostly because the Wii could not handle what developers wanted to make. Now the Wii U "should" handle what developers can make and give a completely different experience compared to the competitors because of the controller. The worst thing that could happen to the Wii U is a lack of 3rd party support. Just have to wait and see what happens.

I just think it won't really be that good of a console, no doubt in my mind it'll be successful, but I can predict either allot of ports, or, allot of 3rd party games, for example, I was really wiling to buy a 3DS, but there are hardly any games out for it, and the majority of games coming out for it are ports, and they are the only games that seem appealing. A huge problem lies in that console in itself though, because you have to hold it at a certain angle to make the effect work, also, its had many complaints of people getting headaches after a certain period of time. I'd be excited for this console if their past two consoles were offered more core games support, but it doesn't seem this one will either, and It just seems like it'll be awkward to play. Although, this is just my opinion, allot of people may think different.

 

[Pendragon9]

It's not judgemental in the least. I've had it with Gimmicks like the Wiimote, Kinect and Move. This massive controller is just another gimmick which they'll force on us.

Therefore, I have every right to judge them. They should know better. It's just another Wii.

Touch screen, the most widely used recent innovation in user interface technology (see: tablets, most smart phones, atms, automatic ticket counters, the financially and critically successful nintendo DS) is now a gimmick.

Surely, "they should know better" than to use one of the most useful technologies in the world for their video game controllers!

Also, you refuse to even consider buying Nintendo's new console because, apparently, you've had it with wii remote, the Kinect and Move (Two of the three have nothing to do with nintendo.) Which is, of course silly because the Wiiu's controller has motion controls superfluously. The touch screen and basic buttons are very clearly the focus.

You also know little to nothing about the WiiU in general, unless you're clairvoyant.

See, you have no right to judge them. And yes, you're being "jedgemental", and jumping to conclusions.

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I think "gimmick" is starting to become one of those arrogant words that are tossed around so carelessly nowadays, it's lost all meaning or intelligence.

Like "fanboy" or "manchild"

Sorry, I DO have a right to judge them because I am a consumer and I have actually bought a Wii. It failed to impress me, and they're basically making a Wii again. So it's MY opinion that this will be garbage. The thing here is that I have personal experience with Nintendo's products, and it's THEIR job to impress me. If they can't, they don't deserve my business. Heck, it's funny that you're complaining about me judging the Wiiu before it's even out, when you and other various people have been judging systems like the Ps4 before it's been even announced. I guess it's not okay if it's Nintendo, right? Fan bias at it's worst.

You're free to disagree if you want, but you're not allowed to just burst into my post and claim I'm not allowed an opinion. That is being rude.

 

[Innegativeion]

Oh, goodness we've got some ground to cover here, huh?

Sorry, I DO have a right to judge them because I am a consumer and I have actually bought a Wii. It failed to impress me, and they're basically making a Wii again. So it's MY opinion that this will be garbage.

Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion, but you've no right to be so judgmental because you're forming an opinion about something that doesn't exist, something that you have little to no knowledge of.

If you're going to base your opinions of this nonexistent piece of hardware on previous Nintendo products, I think you have a little

Fan bias at it's worst

since you choose to ignore decades of beloved products to base your opinion entirely on the Wii, one of their most financially successful products that you just happen to dislike.

It's one thing to make opinionated predictions based on evidence, but since almost none exists for the wiiu, you're kind of... making crap up, for your pre-judgement, to put it bluntly.

The thing here is that I have personal experience with Nintendo's products,

Since you're the only one, right? [/sarcasm]

and it's THEIR job to impress me.

Afraid not, it's their job to sell consoles. Which means impressing the many over the few. Even still, I predict the Wiiu will be more appealing to... whatever demographic you consider yourself, when it's actually released.

when you and other various people have been judging systems like the Ps4 before it's been even announced. I guess it's not okay if it's Nintendo, right? .

Okay, we're back to that "making crap up" thing I mentioned earlier. I love Sony. And Microsoft. They've been good to me. I love all of their current gen consoles.

Can you quote me ever bashing the Ps4? I don't think I've ever even mentioned the Ps4 in a forum post before. Please try to use actual facts in a discussion like this, don't make things up to bash the person discussing with you.

You're free to disagree if you want, but you're not allowed to just burst into my post and claim I'm not allowed an opinion. That is being rude.

A judgement is different from an opinion. I've seen plenty apprehensive to the Wiiu, and that's fine. However, they seem to at least want to give it a chance, wait for more info. You don't have to be excited for it. You don't have to dismiss it as garbage before it's even out of E3, either.

And granted that this is a public forum, I'm well within my right to discuss any disagreements on this board with you. That's what it was made for.

 

[Kroxile]

The Wii U doesn't need to be a threat since the Wii has so thoroughly trounced the PS3 and 360 combined already.

 

[Pendragon9]

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Well, despite all that, I'm still not giving the Wii U a chance.

Nintendo has changed. Since 2006 I just can't find anything to like about them. They might impress me with something, but until then,I refuse to give them a chance. The Wii was a disappointment to me, the DS was a disappointment, and the 3DS was an even bigger disappointment. I don't care about the sales. Sales =/= me liking it. I actually want GAMES, not old remakes and Wii Sports titles. They've had 6 years to clean up their act, but they haven't. So I shall remain skeptical despite you telling me I'm not allowed an opinion.

And frankly, there's nothing you can say to change my mind. I'm so sick of people just jumping to Nintendo's defense like this. Let me have my opinion AND my judgement and we can just go our separate ways.

 

[VanityGirl]

I remember when we all though the Wii wouldn't do well... And how wrong we were.
I guess we will see when it comes out. Honestly, though, I expect it to do pretty well. Those who enjoyed the Wii may want a new nintendo console.

 

[Innegativeion]

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K, now I'm REALLY confused. How, exactly, has Nintendo changed in the past 6 years? o.o

I remember when we all though the Wii wouldn't do well... And how wrong we were.
I guess we will see when it comes out. Honestly, though, I expect it to do pretty well. Those who enjoyed the Wii may want a new nintendo console.

I doubt we'll see the same BOOM in sales the wii got from the casual market, but I also predict it doing well. At only 50$ up from the wii's initial price tag, kids will be begging their parents for it in no time,

and hopefully the Nintendo can deliver on the promised 3rd party support for the hardcore audience.

 

[Pendragon9]

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K, now I'm REALLY confused. How, exactly, has Nintendo changed in the past 6 years? o.o

They stopped making games for everyone. It's now just a game for the younger audience. And after 6 years they finally decide to start making games for everyone, but they all vary in quality, from meh to horrible.

Until they deliver 10 AAA titles on release, I shall continue to judge them prematurely.

 

[Innegativeion]

Until they deliver 10 AAA titles on release, I shall continue to judge them prematurely.

Hahahaha! WOW.

I didn't realize you were so jaded. Remind me not to try and discuss the state of the console industry with you again.

*chuckles to himself as he walks off*

 

[Allspice]

Well, despite all that, I'm still not giving the Wii U a chance.

Nintendo has changed. Since 2006 I just can't find anything to like about them. They might impress me with something, but until then,I refuse to give them a chance. The Wii was a disappointment to me, the DS was a disappointment, and the 3DS was an even bigger disappointment. I don't care about the sales. Sales =/= me liking it. I actually want GAMES, not old remakes and Wii Sports titles. They've had 6 years to clean up their act, but they haven't. So I shall remain skeptical despite you telling me I'm not allowed an opinion.

And frankly, there's nothing you can say to change my mind. I'm so sick of people just jumping to Nintendo's defense like this. Let me have my opinion AND my judgement and we can just go our separate ways.

What disappointed you about it? It has plenty of great games.

Until they deliver 10 AAA titles on release, I shall continue to judge them prematurely.

Are you expecting that from Sony and Microsoft next time around too? At least be realistic with your expectations.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

They stopped making games for everyone. It's now just a game for the younger audience. And after 6 years they finally decide to start making games for everyone, but they all vary in quality, from meh to horrible.

Yeah, how dare a company try to tap an unexploited market. The nerve of them, they should all only make games in the genres you enjoy have them hand-delivered to your house by beauty models.

Exaggeration is fun, isn't it? Well, I don't need to tell you. You've done enough of it here. Like how you're judging the quality of upcoming games from 'meh to horrible' when the console won't be out for a year. Yeah, well done dude.

Until they deliver 10 AAA titles on release, I shall continue to judge them prematurely.

As has already been pointed out: no console has had a full 10 AAA titles on launch. Like, ever.

But fuck it, holding a company to unreasonable standards because of their past decisions allows you to keep your ridiculously uninformed bias towards them, so how dare anyone try to change your mind, right?

 

[Pendragon9]

But fuck it, holding a company to unreasonable standards because of their past decisions allows you to keep your ridiculously uninformed bias towards them, so how dare anyone try to change your mind, right?

Yeah, I mean when YOU held Sony to that standard, it's totally okay, but when I hold Nintendo to the same standard, GASP HOW DARE I INSULT THE GLORIOUS NINTENDO!

This is literally disgusting to view. Everyone demands constant games from other companies, and in comparison, my demands are MEAGER to almost nonexistent. Yet I'm doing the same and holding Nintendo to the very same standard, and I get attacked by multiple people.

Too bad. You think my standards are high? Start changing yours then. Because they're EVEN HIGHER.

And I certainly haven't forgotten the 6 years of "NO GAMES" jokes that half this site likes to perpetuate. So get off of your high horse.

Until they deliver 10 AAA titles on release, I shall continue to judge them prematurely.

Hahahaha! WOW.

I didn't realize you were so jaded. Remind me not to try and discuss the state of the console industry with you again.

*chuckles to himself as he walks off*

I find this ironic coming from the guy who said the PS3 was "total garbage" because it didn't have 20 titles on release that YOU liked.

The irony is astounding.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

But fuck it, holding a company to unreasonable standards because of their past decisions allows you to keep your ridiculously uninformed bias towards them, so how dare anyone try to change your mind, right?

Yeah, I mean when YOU held Sony to that standard, it's totally okay, but when I hold Nintendo to the same standard, GASP HOW DARE I INSULT THE GLORIOUS NINTENDO!

This is literally disgusting to view. Everyone demands constant games from other companies, and in comparison, my demands are MEAGER to almost nonexistent. Yet I'm doing the same and holding Nintendo to the very same standard, and I get attacked by multiple people.

Too bad. You think my standards are high? Start changing yours then. Because they're EVEN HIGHER.

And I certainly haven't forgotten the 6 years of "NO GAMES" jokes that half this site likes to perpetuate. So get off of your high horse.

I never held Sony to a high standard. Mostly cause I've never owned a Sony console and don't see that likely to change (not cause of my standards, I'm just happy with my 360 right now).

More to the point, I've never held them to the standard of "they must have an unheard of number of AAA games that I love on release or they're worth nothing" like you're going with Nintendo right here.

Look I'm not ripping on you for hating Nintendo. You're perfectly allowed to be against a company, I'm just saying maybe start ripping on them for real stuff. 'Abandoning' hardcore gamers and not promising 10 AAA titles with the launch of the Wii-U doesn't make them Satan, and holding them to standards like that is just a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You think they suck, so you demand something no company does, then when they predictably don't do it (cause no company does!) you use that as proof that they suck.

And your standard are high. My standards are not. I just want good games and am willing to give any company a chance to provide me with that. Sony do provide good games, just most of them were on the 360 that I already have, so I didn't go with Sony. Just like Nintendo provide good games. Sure a lot of the Wii titles aren't entirely my cup of tea, but I can still look beyond my little opinion bubble to see they are good games and not slam the fuck of the entire company because they don't appeal to me personally.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

That's what everyone thought when the NDS was first announced, AND when the Wii was announced as well.

look who is laughing now?

 

[gabe12301]

I'm just concerned that the controller will prevent good ports to the system because holding a blank screen with the buttons awkwardly placed will probably not be the best for shooters. but I think the screen would be great for strategy games.